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    Quote Originally Posted by Oregano View Post
    Actually, I spelt it correctly, I even spell checked it to make sure. But your pronounciation seems correct.

    And English is based primarily off German, not Dutch, but apparently they're really similar.
    If we're going to do the actual language taxonomy, then we have the following:

    English, Dutch, and German are all West-Germanic languages.

    These can be further divided into forms of High West Germanic and Low West Germanic.

    The prime example of High West Germanic is (High) German.

    The prime examples of Low West Germanic are (Low) Dutch and English.

    The primary differences between High and Low West Germanic are the consonant shift which was only present in High. And the vowel shift which was only present in Low.

    This makes it so that Dutch and English sound pretty similar, while German sounds distinctly different.

    If it wasn't for the huge amount of Romance loans in English, Dutch and English would be remarkably similar.

    It isn't for nothing that what most scholars deem to be the oldest written form of Dutch might actually have been English.
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    So it's cool to think maths is stupid but not cool to think English is stupid?

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    Corset shopping for whom exactly?
    A friend of mine.
    When I mentioned my love of corsets (they make me go all at once) she said she didn't have any, and thus we are going to remedy this.
    Because corsets are awesome.

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    Hmm.. that's interesting because I assumed that English was actually based off German.
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    So it's cool to think maths is stupid but not cool to think English is stupid?
    It's not cool to think math is stupid. It's cool to not like it. I don't like English, or math, or science, doesn't make them stupid.
    What is really uncool is the thought that you won't make any money with a liberal arts degree and it's a waste of time to do anything other than science or math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oregano View Post
    Hmm.. that's interesting because I assumed that English was actually based off German.
    The important thing here is the ic at the and of Germanic. There used to be a language nowadays called Germanic from which many languages evolved.

    West Germanic, which evolved into the languages listed earlier (And more).
    East Germanic (Goth), which died.
    North Germanic, which evolved, among others, into Danish, Icelandic, Norwegian, and Swedish.
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    A friend of mine.
    When I mentioned my love of corsets (they make me go all at once) she said she didn't have any, and thus we are going to remedy this.
    Because corsets are awesome.

    ... Why, exactly? I mean, petticoats, hats, the occasional scarf, tasteful red pinstripe, orange shirts (provided it's suitably dusky), and lipstick on cute boys, with a hint of foundation, but not much else, are awesome. Why corsets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelaroth View Post
    ... Why, exactly? I mean, petticoats, hats, the occasional scarf, tasteful red pinstripe, orange shirts (provided it's suitably dusky), and lipstick on cute boys, with a hint of foundation, but not much else, are awesome. Why corsets?
    Corsets can be hot, in fact they are more than likely to be awesomely hot.
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    Because they're made of whalebone.
    Whalebone.

    Bones.
    From a WHALE.


    That, my freind, is why.
    That and i guess they shove in the tummy and puff out the boobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gezina View Post
    The important thing here is the ic at the and of Germanic. There used to be a language nowadays called Germanic from which many languages evolved.

    West Germanic, which evolved into the languages listed earlier (And more).
    East Germanic (Goth), which died.
    North Germanic, which evolved, among others, into Danish, Icelandic, Norwegian, and Swedish.
    Yep! I've got about twenty sheets of A4 paper dealing with language families and origins of some of them.
    Finnish is a Uralic language which is why it looks so different when compared to the rest/most of the Eupropean languages as they're mainly ROmance or Germanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziraphale View Post
    Because they're made of whalebone.
    Whalebone.

    Bones.
    From a WHALE.


    That, my freind, is why.
    That and i guess they shove in the tummy and puff out the boobs.
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    Funnily enough Finnish apparently has almost no links to any other language. Which is slightly strange considering Finland's proximity to all the other Scandinavian countries... Curly stealing ma thunder! *shakes fist*

    It being cool not to like Maths is almost as bad as it being cool to be bad at it. Especially since it seems to not be the done thing to dislike English and History etc.

    A mathematician said that admitting to being poor at maths and barely able to do mental arithmatic should be on par with admitting to being illiterate. (can't remember who it was) Not that I really agree, but it shouldn't be acceptable to be appalling at an important subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CurlyKitGirl View Post

    @TwoBit: what d'you mean, you don't understand us? But in all fairness we're not your typical Britishers, we're more fun.
    I mainly said what I said to tease you guys. Really, you brits are the main ones I interact with because I never get on GitP when its late afternoon/evening in the States and you guys are 6 hours ahead of me.

    But also, there are some things you talk about (TV shows and the like) that I have no exposure too, though I hope to get BBCAmerica when I can finally upgrade to digital cable...

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    Finnish is nice, but it has plenty of links to other languages, just not many languages which are a majority in their respective countries.

    It's related to Hungarian, to name an important relative. And many others as well (Handy map).

    What is more interesting is Basque. Which is a Language Isolate, and most likely the only remnant of Old European. (The language which was spoken in Europe before the Indo-European people arrived)
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    Ina, your intellect continues to astound and amaze me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gezina View Post
    Finnish is nice, but it has plenty of links to other languages, just not many languages which are a majority in their respective countries.

    It's related to Hungarian, to name an important relative. And many others as well (Handy map).

    What is more interesting is Basque. Which is a Language Isolate, and most likely the only remnant of Old European. (The language which was spoken in Europe before the Indo-European people arrived)
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    Isn't Russian swearing actually its own sub-language, or did I dream that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoBitWriter View Post
    Ina, your intellect continues to astound and amaze me.
    I'm somewhat bright, but I mostly just want to learn things. Language happens to be a focus of my learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gezina View Post
    I'm somewhat bright, but I mostly just want to learn things. Language happens to be a focus of my learning.
    Just take the compliment

    But seriously, linguistics was always interesting to me, but I focused on European history (specifically Central European history)

    And I only studied German in College. Surprisingly, they didn't offer courses for Dutch.

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    Does anyone know any reasons why people in 1980's Britain would disagree with the statement that "Masculinity is under threat." It's for a debate in Film.

    I'm currently reading through the Fifth Edition of Haralambos and Holborn's Sociology: Themes and Perspectives, if anyone's familar with the book and could give me some ideas where to look.
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    Okay, I got back from my classes.
    Here is what happened with my test...
    I walk into the classroom and set my stuff down at my usual spot. I'm about to leave to check out a calculator when I hear the following conversation.

    guy1: "So, is the test on Wednesday, or Friday?"
    guy2: "Friday."

    I almost cried. I literally spent almost all night studying for the test, when it was actually at the end of the week. The good news though, is that I'm now ahead of the class by two sections.

    @Gezina: You know what the odd thing is? I actually knew almost all about what you said about the languages. I have no idea about where I learned it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfbane View Post
    Okay, I got back from my classes.
    Here is what happened with my test...
    I walk into the classroom and set my stuff down at my usual spot. I'm about to leave to check out a calculator when I hear the following conversation.

    guy1: "So, is the test on Wednesday, or Friday?"
    guy2: "Friday."

    I almost cried. I literally spent almost all night studying for the test, when it was actually at the end of the week. The good news though, is that I'm now ahead of the class by two sections.
    You will have to forgive me... please

    LOL!

    I'm sorry, things like this have happened to me a lot, especially with deadlines. I will stay up all night finishing my new story and find out the deadline was pushed back a week.

    Think of it like this, you will be SUPER ready for the test friday!

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    ... Why, exactly? I mean, petticoats, hats, the occasional scarf, tasteful red pinstripe, orange shirts (provided it's suitably dusky), and lipstick on cute boys, with a hint of foundation, but not much else, are awesome. Why corsets?
    Because I've got a real thing for Steampunk, and corsets are a part of this?
    Also, they can be hot.

    So yes, Jibar likes corsets.
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    Jib's, you ever played Arcanum on PC? That may be a dumb question to a fellow Steampunk fan such as yourself.

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    You guys are familiar with DnD Edition debates, right?

    They are nothing, absolutely nothing, compared to Debates about editions of the Green Book.

    The Green Book is the official Grammar and Spelling reference of the Dutch language.

    There have been many debates about the 1995 version of the Green Book, and it left many people unsatisfied. When the 2005 version of the Green Book came out, it caused an uproar. It had extensive news coverage and there were debates about it in national parliament.

    It was so controversial that another Grammar and Spelling reference of the Dutch language was made, a fork of the 1954 Green Book (Which, as a governmental document, was in the public domain), and it became known as the White Book.

    There are country wide newspapers which use the White Book exclusively. (Submissions in Green Book spelling/grammar will be rewritten for White Book spelling/grammar, and are less likely to be included due to the cost of rewriting.)
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    Jib's, you ever played Arcanum on PC? That may be a dumb question to a fellow Steampunk fan such as yourself.
    I... tried.
    I loved the designs and the feel and the ideas presented.
    It's all wonderful in theory.
    But the gameplay was... broken. Turn based doesn't work, real time combat is just plain disorientating and the menu system confused me as well.
    I'd love to see somebody do a remake, keeping everything the same but upping the graphics and fixing the combat.

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    Gezina, you make me want to start trying to get into the Celtic class again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jibar View Post
    I... tried.
    I loved the designs and the feel and the ideas presented.
    It's all wonderful in theory.
    But the gameplay was... broken. Turn based doesn't work, real time combat is just plain disorientating and the menu system confused me as well.
    I'd love to see somebody do a remake, keeping everything the same but upping the graphics and fixing the combat.

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    Jibar, stop copying my opinions. On both the game and corsets.

    Next thing your saying you also enjoy the looks of lace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oregano View Post
    Does anyone know any reasons why people in 1980's Britain would disagree with the statement that "Masculinity is under threat." It's for a debate in Film.

    I'm currently reading through the Fifth Edition of Haralambos and Holborn's Sociology: Themes and Perspectives, if anyone's familar with the book and could give me some ideas where to look.
    I would guess that the "Masculinity is under threat" thing is based off of several things, especially the rise of the feminist and LBGT movements. But I haven't ever studied any of that, so I may be off. Disagreement with the statement could be the result of progressive thinking, ie there's no reason why women and those with "alternative lifestyles" shouldn't have the same access to rights and such as the men and "normal" people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oregano View Post
    Does anyone know any reasons why people in 1980's Britain would disagree with the statement that "Masculinity is under threat." It's for a debate in Film.
    I'd watch Fightclub. Is that not the whole point of much of the film? And 1980s Brits were the angry miners, remember, burly men from beneath wouldn't like their masculinity questioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mangosta71 View Post
    I would guess that the "Masculinity is under threat" thing is based off of several things, especially the rise of the feminist and LBGT movements. But I haven't ever studied any of that, so I may be off. Disagreement with the statement could be the result of progressive thinking, ie there's no reason why women and those with "alternative lifestyles" shouldn't have the same access to rights and such as the men and "normal" people.
    Yer that'd be it but I have to argue against it and whilst I've found a good study about different types of masculinity it's from 1995 and was done in Sydney.

    EDIT: Aye, but the skinheads claimed their masculinity was stifled or somesuch and I have to argue against it, I actually have special edition Fight Club DVD on my shelf though.
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