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2008-12-06, 06:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
I have two reasons to keep it a "no".
One, I am tired of revising the incorporeal battle rules.
Two, if it's in, I will concede (with no hard feelings at all, simply acknowledging the superiority of your build).
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2008-12-06, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Out, as I said I was already leaning towards it anyway.
Swift: Travel Devotion movement - 20 feet back. Tumble: (1d20+16)[32] DC 15, to not provoke.
Free: Allocate Defender bonus to Attack.
Full Round: Charge. Smite. No divine might, as I have no extra swift action to call it up.
Power attack for 1.
Attack: (1d20+49)[51]
If hit: (1d4)[3] (base)+ (1d6)[1] (truedeath) + 1 (str) + 42 (charging smite) + 4 (enhance) +1 (power attack)
Seeking Smite, just in case. I think my Magic gauntlet bypasses your DR anyway.
Also, if undead are subject to Dazzle, you need to make a DC 31 will save or be dazzled for (1d6)[4] rounds. Should counter your -1AC armor penalty from Eeeevil paladin stuffs, if you're subject.
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2008-12-06, 06:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
AC: 44 -13 Deflection +2 Stance +1 dodge + 13 divine shield = 47
You just hit with a natural 2.
Also, Divine Might is a free action. I'll count it in.
No seeking smite (or demolishing smite) needed. 66 damage, 65 after fast healing.
Rolling for crusader's maneuver before deciding what to do.
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2008-12-06, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Immediate action: moment of perfect mind instead of will save. Natural 1 doesn't fail, so automatic success. Turns out that undead can be dazzled, after all. Huh.
Round 3
Aaaargh!
That hurt. That was also a frightful moan. DC 30 Will or become panicked for (2d4)[5] rounds. You have a -2 penalty to all your saves because you're within 10 ft from a Paladin of Tyranny. If you are immune to sonic or necromantic or mind-affecting or fear effects, ignore.
Move 40 ft down and hide in the shrubbery.
hide (1d20+38)[53]
move silently (1d20+26)[43]
Spoilerfree action: Law Devotion to AC
swift action: regain moment of perfect mind
divine shield left:65
law devotion left:98
rebuke left:1716Last edited by KevLar; 2008-12-06 at 07:11 PM.
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2008-12-06, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Paladin. Immune to fear. :)
Assuming you can make the tumble DC 15 to not provoke on that move?
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2008-12-06, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Right. I forgot.
+34 to Tumble, I'm not rolling. Sorry I didn't say it though.Avatar lawfully nicked from this xkcd strip.
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2008-12-06, 07:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Free: Defender bonus to AC (all 4)
Standard: Assume Total Defense.
Swift: Move to 40 feet altitude. (travel devotion)
Free: Speak: Where are you hiding, little one? The only road to victory lies through my shield... Not in the bushes.
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2008-12-06, 07:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
I thought that's where we were...
Round 4
fast healing +1, hp to 40 (should have ignored 1 damage from power attack)
standard action: deadly touch, full again.
I'll tell you where I move when you tell me where you are. :)
Spoilerdivine shield left: 4
law devotion left: 7
rebuke left: 16
deadly touch left: 80Last edited by KevLar; 2008-12-06 at 07:18 PM.
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2008-12-06, 07:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Same location. My charge back could have put my +/- 5 feet altitude. The travel devotion was to set me in the right spot.
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2008-12-06, 07:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
On a completely unrelated note:
I just realized that even with a ghost touch armor/shield, you only get the enhancement bonus Vs corporeal foes. (I had seen that before, but never with the knowledge that normal armor bonus doesn't count at all....)
That's the last straw. It means the whole build is worthless. I really can't think of anything to make this work, unless I steal your Ascetic Mage thingy.
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2008-12-06, 07:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
You can go with Shield Specialization + shield ward, to make the shield bonus apply to Touch AC.
Plus, as I said. Technically, ghosts receive no Armor bonus, and no Natural armor bonus.
Shield Bonus is neither. You should still get that.
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2008-12-06, 07:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
I don't move then. Your turn.
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2008-12-06, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-06, 07:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Staying still. Go ahead. :)
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2008-12-06, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Round 5
Charge. (I never learn, do I?)
free actions: divine might, allocate Law Devotion to attack.
full round action: Law bearer. Charging Smite. Demolishing Smite. Power Attack 1 (I had forgotten that before)
Attack: when moving 10 ft and Smiting in stance +48 +2 charge (I had forgotten that too) -1 Power attack +7 Law Devotion +8 Law Bearer =
(1d20+64)[74]
Damage: 1d8+16 +1 Power Attack + 35 charging smite +4d6 Law Bearer + 13 divine might + 13 Gauntlets=
(1d8+66)[74] + (4d6)[14] slashing + 13 fire.
Spoilerdivine shield left: 3
law devotion left: 6
rebuke left: 15
deadly touch left: 80
smite left: 6
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2008-12-06, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Fast healing 5
Aura of healing +1 - 97 down
Free: Defender weapon back to attack.
Swift: Belt of Battle (2 charges) - Free standard action.
Standard: Lay on hands -self (97). Full again.
Remainder of turn. Activate maneuver - Bounding Assault. Tumble to the other side of you, moving around you. (DC 15, tumble mod +16, auto success).
Attack: Divine Might, Charging Smite. Power attack for 1.
Attack: (1d20+49)[50]
If hit: (1d4)[2] +(1d6)[2] + 48 (previous bonuses listed) + 16 (divine might) = AUGH, nat 2 then nat 1....
Stats:SpoilerLay on hands: 99/196
Turn: 14/17
Smite: 9/11Last edited by Talic; 2008-12-06 at 08:11 PM.
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2008-12-06, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Round 6
Free action: laughs like a maniac
move action: 40 down hiding in the shrubbery
Spoilerready action: move 40 ft south if I am attacked
crusader: (1d3)[2]
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law devotion left: 5
rebuke left: 15
deadly touch left: 80
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2008-12-06, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
edit
yes tumbling, and hiding:
hide (1d20+38)[57]
ms (1d20+26)[27]Avatar lawfully nicked from this xkcd strip.
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2008-12-06, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Swift: Hmm. I'm in S11, +40, you're in T12, I think, ground level, in the shrubs.
Move 60 feet south, to AE 12.
Ready Action:SpoilerMove away from my opponent, if she approaches within 10 feet and tries to do anything else.
Done.
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2008-12-06, 08:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Round 7
Spoilerswift: allocate Law Devotion to AC
full round action: adaptive style (Obscuring Shadow Veil instead of Mind Over Body, Searing Charge instead of Action Before Thought).
crusader: (1d5)[3], (1d5)[4]
divine shield left: 1
law devotion left: 4
rebuke left: 15
deadly touch left: 80
smite left: 6
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2008-12-06, 08:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Maintain my action. Go ahead. If I can't see ya, I ain't meandering around lookin.
Stats:SpoilerTravel devotion - 3 left.
Divine Shield - expired.
Turn: 14/17
Smite: 9/11
Lay Hands: 99/196Last edited by Talic; 2008-12-06 at 08:34 PM.
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2008-12-06, 08:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
On another completely unrelated note.
If I take a Crusader to an official arena game, one with a referee/moderator, I will beg him, down on my knees, to roll maneuvers for me in the comfort of his home with his beloved dice/cards, and write the results for me in convenient spoiler tags.
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2008-12-06, 08:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Hence, why I don't use crusader, lol.
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2008-12-06, 08:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Round 8
move to Z-10.
Hide (1d20+38)[51]
MS (1d20+26)[31]
Spoilerstandard: divine shield
damn crusader (1d3)[1]
divine shield left: 7
law devotion left: 3
rebuke left: 14
deadly touch left: 80
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2008-12-06, 08:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
SpoilerAnother brain fart.
With adaptive style, I wanted to take Strength Draining Strike. Not Obscuring Shadow Veil. Sorry.Avatar lawfully nicked from this xkcd strip.
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2008-12-06, 08:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Spot's not gonna get you, but I do get a reactive listen.
Listen: (1d20+22)[27]
More to come.
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2008-12-06, 08:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
No Audio... Hmm. I have to assume you're stalking me. Soooo...
Keep my weapon on +4 defense.
Total Defense.
Swift and Move: Move to K3.
Go ahead.
Stats:SpoilerTravel devotion - 2 left.
Divine Shield - expired.
Turn: 14/17
Smite: 9/11
Lay Hands: 99/196Last edited by Talic; 2008-12-06 at 08:51 PM.
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2008-12-06, 08:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Talic, something came up.
We'll continue tomorrow.
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2008-12-06, 08:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
k. Keep in touch. :)
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2008-12-07, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella
Round 9
Double move to M-5.
EDIT - Altitude 10 still.
Hide:(1d20+38)[58]
Move silently:(1d20+26)[37]
Spoilercrusader (1d2)[1]
divine shield left: 6
law devotion left: 2
rebuke left: 14
deadly touch left: 80
smite left: 6Last edited by KevLar; 2008-12-07 at 04:43 PM.
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