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    Default Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella

    I have two reasons to keep it a "no".

    One, I am tired of revising the incorporeal battle rules.
    Two, if it's in, I will concede (with no hard feelings at all, simply acknowledging the superiority of your build).

    Your call. :)
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    Out, as I said I was already leaning towards it anyway.

    Swift: Travel Devotion movement - 20 feet back. Tumble: (1d20+16)[32] DC 15, to not provoke.

    Free: Allocate Defender bonus to Attack.
    Full Round: Charge. Smite. No divine might, as I have no extra swift action to call it up.

    Power attack for 1.

    Attack: (1d20+49)[51]
    If hit: (1d4)[3] (base)+ (1d6)[1] (truedeath) + 1 (str) + 42 (charging smite) + 4 (enhance) +1 (power attack)

    Seeking Smite, just in case. I think my Magic gauntlet bypasses your DR anyway.

    Also, if undead are subject to Dazzle, you need to make a DC 31 will save or be dazzled for (1d6)[4] rounds. Should counter your -1AC armor penalty from Eeeevil paladin stuffs, if you're subject.

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    Default Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella

    AC: 44 -13 Deflection +2 Stance +1 dodge + 13 divine shield = 47
    You just hit with a natural 2.

    Also, Divine Might is a free action. I'll count it in.
    No seeking smite (or demolishing smite) needed. 66 damage, 65 after fast healing.

    Rolling for crusader's maneuver before deciding what to do.
    (1d2)[2]
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    Immediate action: moment of perfect mind instead of will save. Natural 1 doesn't fail, so automatic success. Turns out that undead can be dazzled, after all. Huh.

    Round 3

    Aaaargh!

    That hurt. That was also a frightful moan. DC 30 Will or become panicked for (2d4)[5] rounds. You have a -2 penalty to all your saves because you're within 10 ft from a Paladin of Tyranny. If you are immune to sonic or necromantic or mind-affecting or fear effects, ignore.

    Move 40 ft down and hide in the shrubbery.

    hide (1d20+38)[53]
    move silently (1d20+26)[43]

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    free action: Law Devotion to AC
    swift action: regain moment of perfect mind
    divine shield left: 65
    law devotion left: 98
    rebuke left: 1716
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    Paladin. Immune to fear. :)

    Assuming you can make the tumble DC 15 to not provoke on that move?

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    Right. I forgot.

    +34 to Tumble, I'm not rolling. Sorry I didn't say it though.
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    Free: Defender bonus to AC (all 4)
    Standard: Assume Total Defense.
    Swift: Move to 40 feet altitude. (travel devotion)

    Free: Speak: Where are you hiding, little one? The only road to victory lies through my shield... Not in the bushes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talic View Post
    Swift: Move to 40 feet altitude.
    I thought that's where we were...

    Round 4

    fast healing +1, hp to 40 (should have ignored 1 damage from power attack)

    standard action: deadly touch, full again.

    I'll tell you where I move when you tell me where you are. :)

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    divine shield left: 4
    law devotion left: 7
    rebuke left: 16
    deadly touch left: 80
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    Default Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella

    Same location. My charge back could have put my +/- 5 feet altitude. The travel devotion was to set me in the right spot.

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    On a completely unrelated note:

    I just realized that even with a ghost touch armor/shield, you only get the enhancement bonus Vs corporeal foes. (I had seen that before, but never with the knowledge that normal armor bonus doesn't count at all....)

    That's the last straw. It means the whole build is worthless. I really can't think of anything to make this work, unless I steal your Ascetic Mage thingy.

    I think Stella needs to retire.
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    Default Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella

    You can go with Shield Specialization + shield ward, to make the shield bonus apply to Touch AC.

    Plus, as I said. Technically, ghosts receive no Armor bonus, and no Natural armor bonus.

    Shield Bonus is neither. You should still get that.

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    I don't move then. Your turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talic View Post
    Plus, as I said. Technically, ghosts receive no Armor bonus, and no Natural armor bonus.

    Shield Bonus is neither. You should still get that.
    This is RAW. This also an obvious oversight. I don't want to base a build upon it, it annoys me.
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    Staying still. Go ahead. :)

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    Round 5

    Charge. (I never learn, do I?)

    free actions: divine might, allocate Law Devotion to attack.
    full round action: Law bearer. Charging Smite. Demolishing Smite. Power Attack 1 (I had forgotten that before)

    Attack: when moving 10 ft and Smiting in stance +48 +2 charge (I had forgotten that too) -1 Power attack +7 Law Devotion +8 Law Bearer =
    (1d20+64)[74]

    Damage: 1d8+16 +1 Power Attack + 35 charging smite +4d6 Law Bearer + 13 divine might + 13 Gauntlets=
    (1d8+66)[74] + (4d6)[14] slashing + 13 fire.

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    divine shield left: 3
    law devotion left: 6
    rebuke left: 15
    deadly touch left: 80
    smite left: 6

    Crusader again: (1d5)[3], (1d5)[4]
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    Fast healing 5
    Aura of healing +1 - 97 down

    Free: Defender weapon back to attack.
    Swift: Belt of Battle (2 charges) - Free standard action.
    Standard: Lay on hands -self (97). Full again.

    Remainder of turn. Activate maneuver - Bounding Assault. Tumble to the other side of you, moving around you. (DC 15, tumble mod +16, auto success).

    Attack: Divine Might, Charging Smite. Power attack for 1.

    Attack: (1d20+49)[50]
    If hit: (1d4)[2] +(1d6)[2] + 48 (previous bonuses listed) + 16 (divine might) = AUGH, nat 2 then nat 1....

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    Lay on hands: 99/196
    Turn: 14/17
    Smite: 9/11
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    Round 6

    Free action: laughs like a maniac

    move action: 40 down hiding in the shrubbery

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    ready action: move 40 ft south if I am attacked
    crusader: (1d3)[2]
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    law devotion left: 5
    rebuke left: 15
    deadly touch left: 80
    smite left: 6
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    Default Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella

    edit
    yes tumbling, and hiding:
    hide (1d20+38)[57]
    ms (1d20+26)[27]
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    Default Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella

    Swift: Hmm. I'm in S11, +40, you're in T12, I think, ground level, in the shrubs.
    Move 60 feet south, to AE 12.
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    Move away from my opponent, if she approaches within 10 feet and tries to do anything else.


    Done.

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    Round 7

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    swift: allocate Law Devotion to AC
    full round action: adaptive style (Obscuring Shadow Veil instead of Mind Over Body, Searing Charge instead of Action Before Thought).
    crusader: (1d5)[3], (1d5)[4]

    divine shield left: 1
    law devotion left: 4
    rebuke left: 15
    deadly touch left: 80
    smite left: 6


    Still there, in T-12. You're up.
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    Maintain my action. Go ahead. If I can't see ya, I ain't meandering around lookin.

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    Travel devotion - 3 left.
    Divine Shield - expired.

    Turn: 14/17
    Smite: 9/11
    Lay Hands: 99/196
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    Default Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella

    On another completely unrelated note.

    If I take a Crusader to an official arena game, one with a referee/moderator, I will beg him, down on my knees, to roll maneuvers for me in the comfort of his home with his beloved dice/cards, and write the results for me in convenient spoiler tags.

    It's driving me mad rolling and counting every single round..
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    Hence, why I don't use crusader, lol.

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    Round 8

    move to Z-10.
    Hide (1d20+38)[51]
    MS (1d20+26)[31]

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    standard: divine shield

    damn crusader (1d3)[1]

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    law devotion left: 3
    rebuke left: 14
    deadly touch left: 80
    smite left: 6
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    Another brain fart.
    With adaptive style, I wanted to take Strength Draining Strike. Not Obscuring Shadow Veil. Sorry.
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    Spot's not gonna get you, but I do get a reactive listen.

    Listen: (1d20+22)[27]

    More to come.

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    No Audio... Hmm. I have to assume you're stalking me. Soooo...

    Keep my weapon on +4 defense.
    Total Defense.
    Swift and Move: Move to K3.

    Go ahead.

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    Travel devotion - 2 left.
    Divine Shield - expired.

    Turn: 14/17
    Smite: 9/11
    Lay Hands: 99/196
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    Default Re: Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella

    Talic, something came up.
    We'll continue tomorrow.
    Apologies for the inconvenience.
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    k. Keep in touch. :)

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    Round 9

    Double move to M-5.
    EDIT - Altitude 10 still.

    Hide:(1d20+38)[58]
    Move silently:(1d20+26)[37]

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    crusader (1d2)[1]

    divine shield left: 6
    law devotion left: 2
    rebuke left: 14
    deadly touch left: 80
    smite left: 6
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