Gestalt Arena practice - Moby Vs Stella

[KevLar]

Sadly, I'm conceding, retiring Stella and starting over (when I find the time and peace of mind).

I have made several mistakes with this character, most of them because the rules were hazy or badly written or exceptionally well hidden. But I did a blunder, too. I count Swordsage Wisdom bonus to AC when I carry a shield.

I hate to abandon the game, but I can promise you this. When I come up with a new character, I'll pm you personally.

Thanks for putting up with me..

[Talic]

No problem. :) Let me know. In the meantime, I'm working on something of my own. :D

[KevLar]

A towering figure in a dark robe enters the room where you have been milling around sizing up the competition. His face is completely obscured by his hood. He raises both hands to get your attention and speaks in a deep voice.

Talic (however you are called these days), Salome. You have been chosen to fight. Prepare yourselves!

With that he brings his hands down and the two of you find yourself transported to the arena

OOC:
You've got time for one swift action and one standard action before you get transported in case you need to adopt a stance or activate an item.

On the map, green is open terrain, yellow is difficult terrain, red/brown is the cliffs (10ft, Climb DC20, blocks LoS). Arena has a 60 foot ceiling.

Opening post should have an initiative roll, anything you said after he called your name and what, if anything you did with the 'surprise round' before being transported. After that, start fighting in initiative order.


Positions
Talic:
Horizontal Axis: (1d40)[36]
Vertical Axis: (1d40)[17]

Salome:
Horizontal Axis: (1d40)[40]
Vertical Axis: (1d40)[16]

[KevLar]

Salome is a dancer. She wears seven veils, jewelery, and naught much else. (OK, she has a cloak, bracers, gauntlets...)

Pre actions

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swift: motivate dexterity
swift: activate Stance of Clarity

Initiative: (1d20+20)[22]

[Talic]

Do you know who I am?

I'm the Juggernaut, Bi...

Ah X-Men, I love that move. Just like the namesake, don't let me get any momentum. Bad things.

Initiative: (1d20+2)[17]
That's probably a "Wun-Dee-Twentee-plus-yew-win"

Edit: Pre actions:

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swift: Get in Martial Spirit Stance
Standard: Ready an action to attack with big weapon if opponent enters within reach. Maneuver will be used, Disrupting Strike.

[KevLar]

You're in Q-37, I'm in P-40, right?

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(1d5)[1]
(1d5)[2]
(1d5)[2]

more to come (damn that crusader, LOL)

[Talic]

Q 36.

Crusader, right.

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(1d5)[3] - Douse the Flame
(1d4)[4] - Tactical Strike

Count from top down, skip any maneuver that's granted.

EDIT: Looking at our earlier bouts, I have a way to make your Crusader rolls all go in 1 post.

If you have 5 maneuvers, and you ready 2...

roll 1d5, and 1d4. Count from the top, and skip any that are already selected. Continue as rounds progress.

[KevLar]

Round 1

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Designate X-Man for Dodge target.

Free action: Charm Domain power (+4 to Cha)
Free action: Divine Might
Swift action: activate Bracers of Blinding strike

Full round action: Bounding assault. (1st move action, until next to Talic, underground). Second move action, 5 ft up.) Full attack from Pounce, +1 attack from bracers. Charging Smite x3. Power attack 14. Awesome Smite: Demolishing Smite.

attacks: BAB + 16 (cha, slippers) + 1 WF + 6 necklace (4+2 from stance) +2 charge + 18 smite - 14 PA = +43 / +43 / + 38 / + 33

damage: 4 (necklace) + 16 (slippers) + 16 (divine might) + 35 (charging smite) + 14 PA + 16 (gauntlets) = 1d6 + 1d4 + 85 + 16 fire

charm domain rounds left: 10
smite left: 4
rebuke left: 17

Salome dances thus: 5 ft down in the ground, then towards you, then up she emerges, right next to you!
She tumbles.

full attack:
(1d20+43)[51]
(1d20+43)[50]
(1d20+38)[57]
(1d20+33)[41]

damage:
(1d6+85)[89] bludgeoning + (1d4)[3] force + 16 fire
(1d6+85)[89] bludgeoning + (1d4)[2] force + 16 fire
(1d6+85)[88] bludgeoning + (1d4)[4] force + 16 fire
(1d6+85)[91] bludgeoning + (1d4)[2] force + 16 fire

Ignores DR (except DR/-, as usual), 14 of the damage is PA.

[KevLar]

Sorry for the delay, I've been calculating stuff.
That's what I've been doing with the Crusader. But it must be done each round. (I shouldn't know in advance what maneuvers I'll get later.) And I forgot it again, of course...

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(1d2)[2]

[KevLar]

Wait, you have Robilar's Gambit? Damn...

[Talic]

Emerging next to me triggers my ready action.

Attack with my greatclub, using disrupting blow, if you enter a threatened square.

Disrupting Blow with my greatclub.

Attack: (1d20+45)[50]
If Hit: (2d8+43)[54]
If threat: Flesh Ring of scorn, Auto-confirm, (2d6)[7] damage to me. (only if there's a threat)
If Crit: (2d8+43)[53]

If this maeuver hits, you must make a will save, DC 42 or be unable to take any actions for 1 round.

Assuming you pass that, your attack stands as posted.

In the future, ignore all fire damage. I'm half red. Immune to the stuff.

[KevLar]

Moment of perfect mind:
Concentration (1d20+37)[46]

EDIT- I'm down to 49 hp.

EDIT EDIT- No I'm not! My AC went up, and it didn't hit. This time...

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Charisma +4, modifier +2, counts twice, therefore:
AC: 50 + 2x2 = 54

[Talic]

Attack 1, From Robilar's Gambit:
Attack: (1d20+45)[51]
If hit: (2d8+43)[53]
If threat: Autoconfirm, (2d6)[6] to self
If Crit: (2d8+43)[49]

How are you obtaining a full attack after moving in a roundabout fashion?

[KevLar]

See my edited post above. AC went to 54 (which I forgot). For now, I'm full. Keep rolling, it will end soon one way or another. :)

[KevLar]

How are you obtaining a full attack after moving in a roundabout fashion?

Bounding assault + Pounce. Considered a charge, therefore I'm pouncing. Doesn't it work that way?

[Talic]

Not Quite. Bounding assault grants you a double move and a single attack. It is considered a charge when determining if feats or other abilities apply to that attack.

So leap attack? Feat that applies to that attack, check.
Pounce? Does not apply to that attack. It alters a charge.

But bounding assault is not considered a charge for all purposes. Only for determining what abilities apply to the one attack granted by the maneuver.

[KevLar]

*scratches head*

Maneuver: "make a double move blah blah ... you can also make a melee attack. You gain a +2 bonus on this attack. This maneuver is considered a charge attack when determining if feats and other abilities apply to your attack."

It doesn't say "single". Hmmm....

Pounce: "When a creature with this special attack makes a charge, it can follow with a full attack".

And Pounce is an ability. A special ability. Hmm...

Actually, if it were up to me, I would accept it (which is why I did it in the first place, LOL.)

But if you insist, I'll give it to you that it doesn't work that way. For now. So how will we retcon this?

[Talic]

"You can also make a melee attack."

This is singular. Changing it to "a single melee attack" is redundant.

If I were to retcon it, I'd say restart the match. Crusader maneuvers can be unchanged, but you may not want to do what you did, and if you chose to change your action, then I wouldn't want you to know my readied action when you made that alteration.

[KevLar]

(Yes, but other maneuvers say explicitly "make a single attack". Anyway, this is just for conversation's sake, I'm OK with it. :) )

Fair enough. Keeping positions and initiative then?
I'll post my 1st Round actions in a minute.

[Talic]

My altered Ready action:

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Use Brute ring to initiate a bull rush if my opponent ends a movement and then attempts to do anything else while she threatens me.

Note: D&D denotes a difference between a melee attack and a full attack. It does this in the PHB combat section, and in every monster entry in the monster manual.

I think the difference in wording is that you don't have to make a melee attack. You may choose to avoid attacking.

But it's not considered a charge for any of the restrictions that apply to a charge, or any ability, unless that ability actually modifies the melee attack that the maneuver grants you. For example, on a charge, you must have line of sight at the start of your turn to use it.

[KevLar]

Round 1 - The return

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Designate X-Man for Dodge target.

Free action: Charm Domain power (+4 to Cha)
Free action: Divine Might

Full round action: Battle Leader's Charge. Full attack from Pounce (this is a charge attack, LOL). Charging Smite x3. Power attack 14. Awesome Smite: Demolishing Smite.

attacks: BAB + 16 (cha, slippers) + 1 WF + 6 necklace (4+2 from stance) +2 charge + 18 smite - 14 PA = +43 / + 38 / + 33

damage: 4 (necklace) + 16 (slippers) + 16 (divine might) + 35 (charging smite) + 14 PA + 10 maneuver + 16 (gauntlets) = 1d6 + 95 + 1d4 + 16 fire

charm domain rounds left: 10
smite left: 4
rebuke left: 17
AC: 54 Actually AC is 54 + 2 (stance) + 1 (dodge) = 57 (sigh)

Re-Rolling the 3rd maneuver: (1d3)[2]

Salome's dances thus: She charges you. Very sophisticated.
At least, this particular charge doesn't provoke AoO.

Full attack:
(1d20+43)[56]
(1d20+38)[50]
(1d20+33)[44]

Damage:
(1d6+95)[98] bludgeoning + (1d4)[1] force
(1d6+95)[99] bludgeoning + (1d4)[1] force
(1d6+95)[98] bludgeoning + (1d4)[4] force

Ignore DR etc.
Note: if your readied action grants you a miss chance, somehow, and I am aware of it (if you seem blurry suddenly, for example) ignore miss chance instead of DR.

[Talic]

No. My readied action is to activate My brute ring to bull rush you. The trigger is if you stop moving and attempt to do anything else.

The ring uses either a +5 modifier, or my modifier, whichever is higher. It is a force effect, thus can bull rush incorporeal creatures.

Opposed strength check: (1d20+31)[45]
(27 Str +4 Large)

[KevLar]

So where do I end up, then? :)

[KevLar]

If you need a check to determine that: (1d20+3)[16]

[Talic]

25 feet away. This should also break your charge action, making it no longer possible to continue it, as you have not moved in a straight line any longer.

I'll plot it out, as shock trooper allows me to direct the bull rush.

Your final square should put you in V40.

[KevLar]

I'm not sure where you mean, so.. Define square, please.

Sorry, didn't see it.
Hiding to T-40 then.
[roll]1d20+30[/roll]
I'm all yours.

[Talic]

V40 is the square.

[KevLar]

Hiding to T-40 then.
(1d20+30)[31]
I'm all yours.

EDIT - Literally, after that 1.

[KevLar]

I read the map wrong...

U-40 it is.

[Talic]

Reactive Spot: (1d20+27)[36]

EDIT: That will see you.

My action follows.

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