d20 Rebirth

[Eldrys]

Can you make a race that can fly? Like the Raptoran from Races of the Wild.

[bue52]

Hey Fax are you still continuing with the D20 rebirth series? Do you mind if I use what you currently have to play a game here on the Oots forum, or maybe the mythweavers forum? Also I'd like to commend you for your wondrous effort and ingenious concepts to reform the game

[Lappy9000]

According to Fax's Twitter, he just needs to get himself motivated again. I imagine there's a lot of brainstorming/background work going on as well.

[afroakuma]

Well, hopefully he pops back to the forums, at the very least.

But yes, give the man his space and time. And length, height and depth...

[arguskos]

Dude can take as long as he wants! I don't really like most of his work, but the dedication he has to it is amazing. Most people can't bring themselves to focus on a project like this, but Fax can. Gogo Fax!

[Al-Ashrad]

Dude can take as long as he wants! I don't really like most of his work, but the dedication he has to it is amazing. Most people can't bring themselves to focus on a project like this, but Fax can. Gogo Fax!

I fully agree with you. The guy can take off for as long as he wants. I'm also not a fan of everything in the Rebirth, but this is the most ambitious, and well thought-out, item I've ever seen here. And I've already "lifted" the Skills and Skill Sets section and the Investing Feats section from here for the d20 Middle Earth Homebrew that I'm working on (although I'm also looking at what "Iron Heroes" did with in their "investing feats" too for some ideas).

Keep it up, Fax.

[Lappy9000]

Can you make a race that can fly? Like the Raptoran from Races of the Wild.

He already has. Check out the Ameena.

Personally, if nothing else, I think everyone should take a note of how Fax handled the races, my absolute favorite part of the project so far. The streamlined (but not purged, like in 4e) skill systems and the investing/racial feats are also tremendously amazing.

[Lappy9000]

I remembered some discussion about Favored Class on the Dwarf racial thread. While browsing the Faxapedia, I was looking at Serpents and Sewers. Satyr had the interesting idea of granting either 1 bonus hit point or skill point to a race that takes levels in their favored class. This also works for humans and their knack for always having oodles of skills.

[UserClone]

That's an idea that is actually cannibalized from the Pathfinder roleplaying game made by Paizo, or the Beta version thereof, at least. Not that it isn't a much better idea than multiclassing penalties.

[Satyr]

Hey... it [i]is[//I] a better idea as a gratification works better as a motivator than a punishment. This is basic didactics.
And in Serpents and Sewers, characters have actually at least 3 favorite classes (2 per species, and one class which is favorised by everyone) and can get more through an individual background which is determined at the character creation, up to 5 in total (or six, if the character has a template).

Favorite classes are an interesting tool to form an interconnection between the social and cultural background of a character and his or her later career, as people are formed by the societies they derive from. This works in Serpents and Sewers, as the cultural background is not limited to the character's species, but has an additional (admitedly shallow) level for the cultural background.

[UserClone]

Just to clarify, you are agreeing with me. I used the double negative on purpose to indicate that I felt that the change was one for the better.

[Satyr]

My bad ... to my defense, on this side of the Atlantic it is still very early...

[Lappy9000]

Sorry for incurring your righteous wrath, Satyr, but I thought it was a pretty darn cool idea

As far as I know, Fax hasn't figured out a plan for Favored Classes or multiclassing.

Speaking of which, in about a month or so, my group and I are going to do some playtesting of d20r, starting at level 4. The races/classes to be used are as follows:

• Half-Giant Dreadnaught
• Soulstitched Medium (using those stats I sent you, Fax)
• Drow Fencer (Replacing unfinished Brave Fencer feat with a Fighter Bonus Feat)
• Human Monk (or possibly Paladin)
• Elf Cartomancer

The only minor problem so far is a matter of character sheets (mostly the altered skill points and racial charges), but they're not big issues. General consensus among the players so far is that d20r kicks butt in 9 different kinds of awesome. We continually brag to each other about how awesome our classes are

[afroakuma]

I think it's quite clearly time to summon Fax back.

[Lappy9000]

*Sigh*

I'll grab the virgins, ceremonial pie totem, mustard vat, and the Feathered Bracer of Epicosity. You guys draw the polyhedral summoning circle and go ahead and glue together the Toothbrushes of Despair while I'm getting the components.

[Alteran]

I'll go buy a turkey. It should increase our chances of success, since Fax likes turkey.

Well, who doesn't?

[Lappy9000]

Actually, if you remember your Giantitology, the Feathered Bracer of Epicosity is made from turkey feathers, among others. But, sure, a few dozen turkeys couldn't hurt.

[Morty]

The polyhedral circle should be drawn in Mountain Dew, just to make sure.

[Knaight]

Fax actually hasn't posted anything in over a month. It might be traveling, it might be internet being cut, it might be any number of things, but for all we know he's not going to show up anymore.

[Flickerdart]

Fax actually hasn't posted anything in over a month. It might be traveling, it might be internet being cut, it might be any number of things, but for all we know he's not going to show up anymore.

Fax hangs around in the IRC from time to time, but he has been quite busy with his private life as of late.

[Zeta Kai]

Fax hangs around in the IRC from time to time, but he has been quite busy with his private life as of late.

He'll be comin' 'round the mountain when he comes...

Have patience, have faith, have resolve, & it shall be rewarded. So it is written, so it shall be...

[afroakuma]

Fax hangs around in the IRC from time to time, but he has been quite busy with his private life as of late.

All we need to know. Give him our best.

[Fax Celestis]

*bangs head against wall*

There's a wizard class in there somewhere, but damned if I can get it on paper.

[Draz74]

*bangs head against wall*

There's a wizard class in there somewhere, but damned if I can get it on paper.

lol ... yeah, I know that feeling. That's the feeling of homebrewing, all right.

[afroakuma]

He's back!

Let the dark rebirth of d20r recommence!

[PairO'Dice Lost]

*bangs head against wall*

There's a wizard class in there somewhere, but damned if I can get it on paper.

Well, throw the basics of your idea into a post and we can probably give you some inspiration or motivation there. I haven't been posting on this thread (that I remember, at least), but I've been following here and on the Faxapedia. I really like what you've been doing so far; don't let the wizard (or lack of one) get you down!

[Morty]

Fax is back!
Or more to the point, are you sticking to Vancian spellcasting with the wizard class?

[Fax Celestis]

Fax is back!
Or more to the point, are you sticking to Vancian spellcasting with the wizard class?

Kindasortanotreally.

[Lappy9000]

Question for Fax: Is Ledgermain a Trained or Untrained skill? Is it Intelligence-based?

[Al-Ashrad]

Question for Fax: Is Ledgermain a Trained or Untrained skill? Is it Intelligence-based?

For my Middle Earth d20, I totally lifted Fax' skill sets. I noticed that while some of the skills that absorbed other skills had absorbed skills that were on the same trained/untrained and attribute modifier axis, "Legerdemain" didn't seem to be, since Forgery is an untrained INT-based skill, and Sleight of Hand is a trained DEX-based skill.

So I went with this...
Legerdemain
Trained skill
(INT modifier + DEX modifier)/2.

It seemed like a reasonable enough compromise.