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    Default 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    Nice. I wonder what the updated terms of the agreement include.

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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    I'm guessing one of those terms was the arkenpliers. Also, I don't think Ansom is going to read them too carefully.

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    Default 133 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    Who reads those things anyway?

    Also, seems Wanda gets the Arkenpliers

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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    Ooooh dear. This isn't going to end well if he accepts that.
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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    So, if Wanda reaches the floor before Charlie hits "Accept" she can call base
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    Ayayayayay! Webinar of all people struck him down!

    Notice that Wanda is going for the Arkenpliers, not fallen Ansom.
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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    Amendments eh? well, the arken pliers are indeed a possibility, but i think it is certain that charlie will want to make sure he gets the Parson's artifact, and quite possibly parson as well... whatever those terms are Ansom will probably accept without reading carefully...

    no surprise though that Charlie was still open to working for Ansom; his agreement with Parson kept him uninvolved with transilvito, but not ansom... plus considering he can get parson and the artifact by working with Ansom, it's better business for him to keep working with ansom so he doesn't make it look like he's switching sides (legally and contractually he wouldn't, but people will still see it that way)

    And considering Charlie has enough archons to take Paron's garrison, what with his uncroaked not having nearly enough anti-air, Parson seems like he's in trouble... all we can hope is that wanda claims the pliers and THAT in her hands it helps even the fight back out against the archons

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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    The Arkenpliers seem to be free falling off the wall down to the jetstone troops below. Wanda doesn't have thm.

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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    What's Charlie going to screw Ansom out of now? Besides Parson and the Arkenpliers, of course.
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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    haha, this is really getting good. im just wondering when stanley will show up and kick charlie out of his airspace.

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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    Quote Originally Posted by Miklus View Post
    Ayayayayay! Webinar of all people struck him down!

    Notice that Wanda is going for the Arkenpliers, not fallen Ansom.
    Also, her orders to the rest of her units were to capture Ansom -- and now that he's grounded without the Arkenpliers, he's pretty vulnerable unless he makes a deal with Charlie to get his boop out of there.

    Looking at the terms being offered, I can make out the words "a bind" at the end of the third line. That would seem to sum up Ansom's situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evnafets View Post
    The Arkenpliers seem to be free falling off the wall down to the jetstone troops below. Wanda doesn't have thm.
    They are falling down to gobwinknobs's side of the wall... unless the archon's intercept her, the pliers are as good as hers

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayerx View Post
    They are falling down to gobwinknobs's side of the wall... unless the archon's intercept her, the pliers are as good as hers
    That's the impression I got; the stairs look more like a built-in accessway for friendly troops than like any of the siege units we've seen.

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    Excellent sound effects! "Ka-Boss!" "CROWN"

    Also, gotta love the "ehem."
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    Yeah, I think whatever Ansom does, he has large problems. If I move any closer to the edge of my seat, I am going to fall off.
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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    A skillfull bit of ego pricking there. Can anyone see the Uncroaked Archon?

    Quote Originally Posted by [sWc]Konman View Post
    haha, this is really getting good. im just wondering when stanley will show up and kick charlie out of his airspace.
    There do seem to be a lot of Clouds around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by [sWc]Konman View Post
    haha, this is really getting good. im just wondering when stanley will show up and kick charlie out of his airspace.
    Can't happen until GK's next turn, which is the next day.

    "What have you done to it?" The flying carpet seems OK and is still in the air as Ansom is falling, but I suppose Wanda could have somehow frozen it or made it otherwise unresponsive. Or "it" could refer to the arkentool. Could it have somehow fought against Ansom, become heavier or more unwieldy, when facing Wanda?
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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    So Ansom has put himself between anvil and the hammer. He either gets captured by Parson, or royally screwed by Charlie. The most important part is, he can only blame himself for the whole mess.

    On another thing: i hope that Wanda manages to reach Arkenpliers before anyone else.
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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    Whoa lag.

    I guess that is a good reason for Wanda to take the first attack... she essentially neutralized Ansom's offensive capabilities. The question is 'how?'.

    She stuck her staff between the 'pliers jaws but I have a hard time believing that without some sort of magic the 'pliers couldn't snap through the staff. Most needle-nose pliers have wire-cutters in them...

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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    - What have you done to it?

    Looks like Wanda already has some power over the pliers before she even has it in hand, which gives credence to the whole, pliers were made for wanda theory. Which I believe too.

    I think Wanda will retrieve the pliers before Stanley engages and be able to retreat to safety. She's the speculated predictamancer, so she's probably seen this moment for years. The battle is about to turn very nasty though, with charlie in place, I expect all Parson can do is a holding action until Stanley arrives.
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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    Quote Originally Posted by slayerx View Post
    all we can hope is that wanda claims the pliers and THAT in her hands it helps even the fight back out against the archons
    Yeah that might be GK's only hope now, either that or Ansom not making the deal with whatever the altered terms are. But since we already know that Charlie has enough Archons to take GK, the only thing that would change that is if GK suddenly got a huge boost. So either Wanda gets the 'pliers and goes all Queen of the Damned on us, or...I don't know, maybe they somehow hold out until the last instant when Stanley shows up to save the day?

    Ayayayayay! Webinar of all people struck him down!
    I cheered too. I had wanted Webby to come back and get up in Ansom's face--well, he did, and then some.


    And a question: what is Ansom referring to in his speech bubble in the first panel? That's left me a little confused.

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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    I hope one day, we can see the full text of that contract.

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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    So when does Charlie get his turn?

    I.e., originally it was before Ansom's turn. He passed on it.

    Does that mean he gets to go with Ansom once he becomes an ally?

    Or does he have to wait until after Ansom does an end turn?

    Mechanically, the turn based stuff seems off. Or is it just which side has initiative? I.e., Ansom has to attack before Wanda can engage him in his turn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fendrin View Post
    Whoa lag.

    I guess that is a good reason for Wanda to take the first attack... she essentially neutralized Ansom's offensive capabilities. The question is 'how?'.

    She stuck her staff between the 'pliers jaws but I have a hard time believing that without some sort of magic the 'pliers couldn't snap through the staff. Most needle-nose pliers have wire-cutters in them...
    Magic Staff? It wouldn't have to hold out for long.

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    Can't happen until GK's next turn, which is the next day.
    Maybe so, but if the surviving Dwagons have a much higher move then the Dwagons that didn't make the cut then it's not impossible they're already back.

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    The question isn't anymore, "who will win, Parson or Ansom?", but "who will lose less, and watch Charley scoop the market".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whispri View Post
    Maybe so, but if the surviving Dwagons have a much higher move then the Dwagons that didn't make the cut then it's not impossible they're already back.
    He spent part of his last turn (after the ambush) headed back to GK, which makes it possible that he could get back next turn. I don't see any way he could already be back (even leaving out the time/distance issues, can you really imagine him just sitting there under veil and not getting involved?)

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    Default Re: 133 The Battle For Gobwin Knob, Page 120

    Why do they have to stay and re-stack? Why did they un-stack in the first place?

    I have to agree with the earlier poster that turn-based mechanics get quite confusing and messy if alliances and mercenary agreements can be made and take effect during a single turn (and even during a single combat within a single turn!).
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