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2009-04-26, 07:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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[4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
"Would you part an old man from his walking stick?"
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"I told you to take the wizard's staff!"
Okay, so I look at this Quarterstaff dealie. 1d8, +2 proficiency, and wielded in two hands. You know what? This really needs some help. Now, I don't really believe that the weapon itself needs to be augmented, simply because staffs can be used as both implements and quarterstaffs. However, I do think that the quarterstaff could use a bit of a boost...so let's use feats.
Quarterstaff Proficiency
Prerequisite: Proficiency with the quarterstaff, Dex 13
Benefit: Your base proficiency bonus for any staff you wield becomes +3, and it gains the "defensive" property.
Lightning Staff
Prerequisite: Quarterstaff Proficiency, Dex 15
Benefit: Any staff you wield gains the "high crit" property when used for melee attacks.
Deft Parry
Prerequisite: Quarterstaff Proficiency, Dex 15, you must be wielding a staff
Benefit: When an enemy misses you with a melee attack, you may shift 1 square.
I'm also thinking of writing up a martial paragon path for quarterstaff users. What think ye? (Also want feedback on the power level of these, especially Lightning Staff)Last edited by CarpeGuitarrem; 2009-04-26 at 07:27 AM.
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2009-04-26, 07:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
In martial power, there's a feat to treat the quarterstaff as a dual weapon and it gains the defensive property. But I think it needs a whole multi-class set of feats.
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2009-04-26, 07:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
Ah, I hadn't known that...
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2009-04-26, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
How about something more in line with the "Weapon Mastery"-style feats?
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Quarterstaff Training [Multiclass]
Pre-requisites: Dex 13, any Martial Class OR Dex 13, quarterstaff used as impliment
Effect: You gain proficency with the quarterstaff if you do not already have it. Increase the Proficency bonus to +3. You may treat the quarterstaff as a double weapon (1d8/1d8) and as if it had the defensive property.
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Then make a Encounter, Utility and Daily power, and have each one grantable by a power-swap feat.
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O RLY?
I see no such quarterstaff love in my copy of MP. What page are you looking at?Last edited by Thanatos 51-50; 2009-04-26 at 07:43 AM.
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2009-04-26, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
Hmm... maybe it wasn't in Martial Power, but I know it's a feat somewhere... I'm suscribed to DDI so I don't exactly peruse the books that heavily.
Note: It is in Dragon 368, and it lets you treat the weapon as a double weapon, with the whole off hand, defensive and the two damage head (1d8/1d8).
But I do want the quarterstaff to have more Weapon Mastery feats, (which a few are multi-class) with new powers and options.
I'm not really being mean or anything, but it's definitely something you might want to think about doing.
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2009-04-26, 09:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
Actually, couldn't I just say "Dex 13" and leave it at that? I mean, outside of martial classes and the wizard, it won't really be useful, because it doesn't grant implement proficiency.
I definitely like that, and I'll look into those Weapon Mastery Feats again. I also think a Paragon Path wouldn't be out.
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2009-04-26, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
There's a Staff-based Paragon Path in the homebrew link of my sig. It is appropriately named the "Staffmaster". It helps one use the noble staff as a fighter, since staves have no support yet whatsoever.
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2009-04-26, 01:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
This is certainly a useful line of feats for melee warriors, but it likely won't be very useful for wizards or others who use staves as implements. I don't believe it's spelled out in the rules, but the general consensus is that you must "wield" a quarterstaff in two hands to use it as a weapon, but you can hold it in one hand to use it as an implement. This doesn't necessarily mean wizard's can't use it as a weapon, but it's likely they'll have something better to do with their off-hand.
Anyways, I like what you've done so far. No suggestions at the moment.
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2009-04-27, 04:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
Well, if a wizard's using a staff, does he necessarily have anything he can be doing with his off-hand? That's what I figure. That, and anything he's holding in his off-hand, he can always use a minor action to put away before wailing with two hands.
I'm thinking stuff based off of Dexterity.
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2009-04-27, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
I like.
Quarterstaffs tend to get neglected in role-playing games, I guess people don't think they're as interesting as swords.
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2009-04-30, 03:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4E] Some Love for the Quarterstaff... [PEACH]
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Quick Ideas for Power-Swap Feats:
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Quarterstaff Novice:
Pre-Requisites: Quarterstaff Training Feat, all asscoiated Pre-Requisites. Level 4
Effect: You may retrain one encounter attack power of third level or above to the following power ("Dazing Staff")
Dazing Staff - Feat Power
"With a quick flourish and a lightning-fast jab, you leave your opponent dizzy and shift away from reprisal"
Encounter - Martial, Weapon
Standard Action - Melee Weapon
Attack: WIS vs. FORT
Requirement: You must be wielding a Quarterstaff
Hit: 1|W| + Wisdom modifier damage and you shift one square, and the target is dazed until the begining of your next turn.
Effect: If you are marked, you shed that condition.
Special: Increase to 2|W|+WIS Modifier Damage and Level 11
Increase to 3|W|+WIS Modifier Damage at level 21
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Quarterstaff Adept:
Pre-requisites: Quarterstaff Novice, All associated Pre-requisites. Level 8.
Effect: You may re-train one Utility Power of level (7?) Or lower to the follwoing power. ("Staff's Ward")
Staff's Ward - (Feat Power - Utility)
"All it takes is a quick change in the way you stand and moving your staff about to confuse your foe and render you harder to hit."
Daily - Martial, Weapon, Stance
Requisite: You must be wielding a Quarterstaff
Effect: You assume the Warding Staff Stance, while in the stance, you cannot be marked. You also gain a +2 Power Bonus to AC and REF and can shift as a minor action.
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Quarterstaff Expert:
Pre-Requisites: Quarterstaff Adept, All associated Pre-Requsites. Level 10.
Effect: You may re-train one Level (10?) Daily Attack Power to the following power (Quarterstaff Assault)
Quarterstaff Assault - (Feat Power)
"With a startling Alarcity, you take the knees out from under your surrounding foes, the effect startles them and their allies."
Daily - Martial, Weapon
Requisite: You must be weilding a Quarterstaff
Standard Action Close Burst 2
Target: All enemies you can see in burst.
Attack: WIS v. FORT
Hit: |W|+WIS Mod Damage, and the target is prone and dazed (Save ends dazed)
Miss: Target is dazed (Save Ends)
Special: Increase Damage to 2|W| + WIS mod at 15th level
Increase Damage to 3|W|+WIS mod at 25th level.
If all attacks miss, no targets are dazed and this power is not expended.
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These feats are all very BETA.Last edited by Thanatos 51-50; 2009-04-30 at 03:42 AM.
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