2/28/2013 - Update on Thumb
12/31/2012 - There's a New Comic
12/12/2012 - The "Lost" Holiday Ornament (and Child's Play)
11/26/2012 - Leftover OOTS Swag on Sale (+Thumb Report)
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Order of the Stick 890 Dream Free
Erfworld 163 The End of Book One
Erfworld Now at Erfworld.com!
RSS Feeds: OOTS

The Duke's Wolf, Part Four by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Three by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Two by Amber E. Scott

The New World, Part 9: Barbarians by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 8: Gnomes by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 7: Names and Cultures by Rich Burlew
Looking for the Gaming Articles?

 



Welcome back! Be sure you have read and understand the Forum Rules.


Go Back   Giant in the Playground Forums > Gaming > Homebrew Design
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read End

Homebrew Design Roll up your sleeves and get working: there's lots of homebrewin' to be done! Post your custom creation for critiques or review those of your peers.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-23-2011, 04:44 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
The Vorpal Tribble
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 
The Mindfields
Gender: Female
Lightbulb [Template] Lords and Ladies

Faerie Courtier
Be careful that you never dance or play with Faerie-folk, or you'll be trapped... forever.

Pic by AvantFae of Deviantart.com

Though all creatures of Fae are considered royal to a degree, even within the Seelie/Unseelie Courts there are the nobility that have a higher placing than others. The Lords and Ladies, or those favored by them, called the Faerie Courtier. This position they may be born to, earned, or simply because the sylvan indvidual strikes the fancy of other nobility. They have powers beyond most mortals and may even open a Faerie Circle, a touch of their sylvan plane within another.

There they dally with mortals, often taking them as servants and pets, or worse, slaves and playthings. Then they leave, nothing to show they ever danced other than the rings of mushrooms where there feet touched.


Sample Faerie Courtier
Spoiler


-=-=-=-=-=-=-


Creating A Faerie Courtier

"Faerie Courtier" is an acquired or inherited template that can be added to any fey, or an outsider from the plane of Faerie, hereafter referred to as the base creature. A Faerie Courtier uses all the base creature’s statistics and special abilities except as noted here.

Special Qualities: A Faerie Courtier retains all qualities of the base creature. They also gain the following special qualities.
Coifed (Su): A Faerie Courtier is under a constant prestidigitation-like spell that constantly cleans and perfumes them. They may turn this ability off and on at will.
Dark Waltz: A Faerie Courtier ranks in Perform (dance) increases to 3 + their HD. They also may stack their Strength or Dexterity modifiers with their dance checks.

Special Attacks: A Faerie Courtier retains all attacks of the base creature. They also gain the following special attacks.
Faerie Circle (Su): Between sunset and sunrise a Faerie Courtier may designate an area as a Faerie Circle to dance a special waltz. This area is up to 10 feet per HD of the Faerie Courtier, though within that frame can make it as small as they wish. If there are multiple Faerie Courtiers present for the dance, the one with the highest HD is the one who designates the range of the area. For each additional Faerie Courtier the circle may be, but is not required to be, increased in size a number of feet equal to twice the courtier's space. So for example a Medium courtier would extend the circle another 10 feet.

Faerie Circle Traits
Spoiler

Master of Mortals (Su): A Faerie Courtier may rebuke, command, or bolster animals and humanoids as an evil cleric rebukes undead. She may also attempt to master a magical beast, though uses up 3 uses of this ability. They may use these abilities a total number of times per day equal to 3 + their Charisma modifier.
Summoned to Court (Su): Once per day a Faerie Courtier can return to the court in the Plane of Faerie (seelie or unseelie, whichever they hold allegiance), or to the last circle in which she danced. This acts as Word of Recall except the courtier can obviously move between planes. A mortal bound to the courtier is automatically considered willing. If a mortal that is bound to her leaves without her permission she can use her daily summoned to court use to instead bring the mortal to an adjacent square to her, to the circle he was caught in, or to the location within the court where she herself would normally appear. The mortal is allowed no save.

Abilities: Increase from the base creature as follows: +2 Dex, +4 Cha
Skills: A Faerie Courtier gains Knowledge (nobility and royalty) as a trained skill with a +4 bonus. If of the Seelie Court they also gain a +4 bonus to Diplomacy. If of the Unseelie Court they gain a +4 bonus to Bluff. Both are considered trained skills.
Skill Trick: A Faerie Courtier gains the use of the Social Recovery skill trick even if they don't meet the prerequisites.
Treasure: As base creature plus double gems.
Challenge Rating: Up to 5 HD +1, same as base creature +1. 6-10 HD same as base creature +2, 11-15 HD same as base creature +3, 16-20 HD same as base creature +4
Level Adjustment: Same as base creature +3

Last edited by The Vorpal Tribble : 01-24-2011 at 09:31 PM.
The Vorpal Tribble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2011, 05:15 PM   Top  -  End  -  #2
Jack_Simth
Titan in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Default Re: [Template] Lords and Ladies

Let's see... I'm having a little trouble with the penalty and grammar, however....

Dark Waltz: Wouldn't it be simpler to say that they are treated as having maximum ranks in Perform(Dance), as though it were a class skill, rather than defining what it means?

Faerie Circle: This ability is a bit confusing. Is 'multiple courtiers' global (E.g., multiple courtiers on the plane), or local (Multiple courtiers wanting to make a circle at the same time)?

Will save equal to Perform(Dance) check: That gets rather insane, rather quickly. The sample Faerie, taking ten, is Will DC 29, and is only CR 9. That's nat-20 territory for most characters for which that's a reasonable CR.

"For each time the mortal loses the roll he becomes further trapped, and for each time he wins he becomes closer to freedom. A mortal begins dancing with a penalty of 5. The last roll determines his. "
A little confusing. Do you mean something along the lines of:
"For each time the mortal loses the roll he becomes further trapped, and for each time he wins he becomes closer to freedom. A mortal begins dancing with a trapped rating of 5. The final score after the ten minutes of dancing determines his status"
__________________
Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.
Jack_Simth is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2011, 06:17 PM   Top  -  End  -  #3
The Vorpal Tribble
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 
The Mindfields
Gender: Female
Default Re: [Template] Lords and Ladies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack_Simth View Post
Dark Waltz: Wouldn't it be simpler to say that they are treated as having maximum ranks in Perform(Dance), as though it were a class skill, rather than defining what it means?
I don't see much difference really.

Quote:
Faerie Circle: This ability is a bit confusing. Is 'multiple courtiers' global (E.g., multiple courtiers on the plane), or local (Multiple courtiers wanting to make a circle at the same time)?
Those present for the current dance.

Quote:
Will save equal to Perform(Dance) check: That gets rather insane, rather quickly. The sample Faerie, taking ten, is Will DC 29, and is only CR 9. That's nat-20 territory for most characters for which that's a reasonable CR.
Well, let's look at what a 9th level bard using Fascinate can do without anything special.
- +19 perform mod (changeling with max ranks)
- Can affect up to 4 beings at once.
- Audience sit down all nice and quiet as your friends sneak attack them to death.

Then there are bardic PrC's that let you do a lot more with your perform. The nymph is a highly optimized example of what you can do with this template and she doesn't match what you can do with many bard builds of the same level.

Open to suggestions on alternative ways of determining the DC, but if we go by HD and Cha, optimized as it is, that's still a mere DC 20, which your typical 9th level diviner is going to beat with a roll of 5.

Quote:
A little confusing. Do you mean something along the lines of:
"For each time the mortal loses the roll he becomes further trapped, and for each time he wins he becomes closer to freedom. A mortal begins dancing with a trapped rating of 5. The final score after the ten minutes of dancing determines his status"
Basically, yup. I do like that wording better.

Last edited by The Vorpal Tribble : 01-23-2011 at 06:21 PM.
The Vorpal Tribble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 12:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #4
Debihuman
Ogre in the Playground
 
PirateGirl
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 
On the Good Ship Lolipop
Gender: Female
Default Re: [Template] Lords and Ladies

Just a few questions and observations.

The Template seems to add the Psionic Subtype to the base creature (see Attraction Power in Faerie Circle traits).

Although you mention a Faerie Court allegiance in the Summoned To Court ability, nowhere in the template is it stated that Faerie Courtier actually gains an allegiance to one of the Faerie Courts if she didn't already have one. That probably should be added.

I agree that Dark Waltz should be rewritten for clarity. Since Perform checks are Charisma-based, basing them off Str or Dex doesn't really make sense.

Dark Waltz (Ex): A Faerie Courtier gains a number of ranks of Perform (dance) equal to her maximum allowed ranks per HD. If she already has maximum ranks in this skill, she gains no further benefit.

I recommend the following changes to Skills section as result of the other considerations.

Skills: A Faerie Courtier gains a +4 bonus to either Bluff (if Unseelie) or to Diplomacy (if Seelie), and gains a +4 bonus to Knowledge (nobility and royalty). A Faerie Courtier always has a maximum number of ranks in Perform (dance) per HD (see Dark Waltz above).

Also, look at the placement of the following ability in your text.
Quote:
A Faerie Courtier may speak mind to mind with a mortal regardless of planar boundaries, and may use their Master of Mortals ability through this link.
Since this ability only appears in the Faerie Circle Trait do you mean that the faerie courtier can only use this ability while in a faerie circle? You don't expressly state it, but it should be clearer if that is the case. In either case, this ability seems to be a form of Telepathy and I'm not sure why you didn't list it that way. Also, do they need to share a common language? Calling something "a mortal" is vague. You should probably define it.

Although I'm not certain this is how you want to proceed, here's my suggestion:

Telepathy (Psi): While in a faerie circle, the Faerie Courtier may speak mind-to-mind with any living creature that has an Intelligence of 3 or more and that shares a common language regardless of planar boundaries. She may use her Master of Mortal abilities through this link.

Because the next sentence is also listed under Faerie Circle Traits, it is unclear whether the ability is only active in a Faerie Circle. If it is not, you should consider making this another Special Ability and listing it separately.

If you mean that any time the Faerie Courtier is killed, her bound mortal dies, then that's an ability that borders on the realm of evil. Taking someone with you when you die isn't really a good act, especially if you know that to be the case when you bind the mortal. I'd be leery of making this ability active any time the Faerie Courtier is killed. Save vs. Death situations are never fun and should be limited. If you limit this to the time that the Faerie Courtier is in her Faerie Circle, then it is a little more palatable.

Here is my suggestion (with some editing included):
If the Faerie Courtier is killed while in the Faerie Circle, the mortal bound to her must succeed on a Will save (DC 10 + 1/2 Faerie Courtier's HD + Cha modifier) or die as his heart breaks. If the bound mortal succeeds on his save, he instead collapses and awakens in the circle from which he was taken.

I'm not sure what the purpose of the Faerie Circle really is. You mention in the sample creature that she creates one to honor her former master, but you say nothing about it in the Template. I think this information would be helpful. Perhaps as part of the Template you should add that the creation of a Faerie Circle must be performed at least once a year (or within some other time frame) to honor someone important to the Faerie Courtier.

Just a couple of other things...

You have a tendency to switch between singular and plural, even in the same sentence. This combined with a distinct lack of breaks between paragraphs makes it harder to read. There are a lot of grammatical errors that also make it difficult to understand in spots.

Why didn't you put the sample creature at the very end of the Template? Having it in the middle breaks it up too much. It also doesn't need to be in a spoiler if it is at the end.

Debby
__________________
P.E.A.C.H. Please Evaluate And Critique Honestly. Being nicer and kinder doesn't hurt either.

Please, please, please when using non-core material, cite to the books. There are too many books to wade through to find the one with the feat, special ability or spell you use.

I've got a red pen and I'm not afraid to use it.

my creations

Last edited by Debihuman : 01-24-2011 at 04:56 PM. Reason: to be as clear as possible
Debihuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 09:05 PM   Top  -  End  -  #5
Blynkibrax
Dwarf in the Playground
 
Beholder
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Default Re: [Template] Lords and Ladies

Always nice to see some new options for fey. They're a criminally underrepresented type, which always surprises me, as they can be powerfully creepy if played right.
__________________
Ut Abyssus per orbis terrarum.
Blynkibrax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 09:28 PM   Top  -  End  -  #6
The Vorpal Tribble
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 
The Mindfields
Gender: Female
Default Re: [Template] Lords and Ladies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Debihuman View Post
The Template seems to add the Psionic Subtype to the base creature (see Attraction Power in Faerie Circle traits).
It acts 'as' it so I don't have to repost all the rules. It isn't the power, just has the same effect.


Quote:
Although you mention a Faerie Court allegiance in the Summoned To Court ability, nowhere in the template is it stated that Faerie Courtier actually gains an allegiance to one of the Faerie Courts if she didn't already have one. That probably should be added.
Well, considering how pretty much none of the other fey do either its assumed that by the fluff she is.

Quote:
I agree that Dark Waltz should be rewritten for clarity. Since Perform checks are Charisma-based, basing them off Str or Dex doesn't really make sense.
They aren't based off Str or Dex. She adds them in addition.

Quote:
I recommend the following changes to Skills section as result of the other considerations.

Skills: A Faerie Courtier gains a +4 bonus to either Bluff (if Unseelie) or to Diplomacy (if Seelie), and gains a +4 bonus to Knowledge (nobility and royalty). A Faerie Courtier always has a maximum number of ranks in Perform (dance) per HD (see Dark Waltz above).
I like the bonus based on the house idea, and will use that. Having a maximum ranks is basically what I said, but as above folks will go 'so do i have to take those ranks from other skills?'

Quote:
Also, look at the placement of the following ability in your text.
Since this ability only appears in the Faerie Circle Trait do you mean that the faerie courtier can only use this ability while in a faerie circle? You don't expressly state it, but it should be clearer if that is the case. In either case, this ability seems to be a form of Telepathy and I'm not sure why you didn't list it that way. Also, do they need to share a common language?
They can only speak with the mortal that is bound to them.

Quote:
If you mean that any time the Faerie Courtier is killed, her bound mortal dies, then that's an ability that borders on the realm of evil. Taking someone with you when you die isn't really a good act, especially if you know that to be the case when you bind the mortal. I'd be leery of making this ability active any time the Faerie Courtier is killed. Save vs. Death situations are never fun and should be limited. If you limit this to the time that the Faerie Courtier is in her Faerie Circle, then it is a little more palatable.
It's not so much evil, as they are bound at a very basic level. This is common in stories even with good fairies. Basically when bound to them, they tend to love their mistress to an obsessive degree. I'm basically going for something right out of Grimm tales.

Quote:
I'm not sure what the purpose of the Faerie Circle really is. You mention in the sample creature that she creates one to honor her former master, but you say nothing about it in the Template. I think this information would be helpful. Perhaps as part of the Template you should add that the creation of a Faerie Circle must be performed at least once a year (or within some other time frame) to honor someone important to the Faerie Courtier.
It's hinted in the story that she is the one who killed him. To honor him is actually a jibe at his memory. 'I killed you on this day, you SOB'. Why are fairy circles so common in literature? I dunno. It'd be different for each creature of Faerie. Much of the time its just because they like a party and intrusive mortals are often good entertainment.

Quote:
You have a tendency to switch between singular and plural, even in the same sentence. This combined with a distinct lack of breaks between paragraphs makes it harder to read. There are a lot of grammatical errors that also make it difficult to understand in spots.
I'll give it another look over and see what I can change.

Quote:
Why didn't you put the sample creature at the very end of the Template? Having it in the middle breaks it up too much. It also doesn't need to be in a spoiler if it is at the end.
Because if you look in most, if not all, books the sample creature is listed before the actual template. I'm simply doing it the 'official' way.
The Vorpal Tribble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 09:09 AM   Top  -  End  -  #7
Burnheart
Troll in the Playground
 
Daemon
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: 
South East England
Gender: Male
Default Re: [Template] Lords and Ladies

Hey i have to say this is exactly what i need for some of the NPC's in the campain i'm DMing at the moment. Thank you for posting this The Vorpal Tribble.
Burnheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 12:59 PM   Top  -  End  -  #8
Debihuman
Ogre in the Playground
 
PirateGirl
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 
On the Good Ship Lolipop
Gender: Female
Default Re: [Template] Lords and Ladies

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Vorpal Tribble View Post
It acts 'as' it so I don't have to repost all the rules. It isn't the power, just has the same effect.
Just cite to the rule as Psionic rules are open content but not core. See Psionic Handbook page 54.

Quote:
In regards to requiring a allegiance to a Faerie Court... Well, considering how pretty much none of the other fey do either its assumed that by the fluff she is.
Don't assume, state explicitly. This is a new Template and so none of the fey will have this information.


Quote:
I like the bonus based on the house idea, and will use that. Having a maximum ranks is basically what I said, but as above folks will go 'so do i have to take those ranks from other skills?'
Then have the Template add the additional skill Perform (dance) ranks to the base creature without recalculating. I grok what you are trying to say, but you aren't saying it clearly.

Skills: A Faerie Courtier gains Perform (dance) as a class skill if the base creature did not already have it. If the base creature does not have any ranks in Perform (dance) or has fewer than the maximum number of ranks allowed by its HD, it gains those ranks as bonus skill points.

Quote:
They can only speak with the mortal that is bound to them.
Does this also mean that they can only use their Master of Mortal ability on their bound mortal when speaking mind-to-mind? Your writing isn't clear on this either.

It sounds like by "mortal" you mean Animals and Humanoids only but you aren't specific enough. "Mortal" isn't a standard game term, so you have to define it. Since Master of Mortals only affects Animals and Humanoids, and to a lesser effect Magical Beasts, it makes sense for this to be the definition.

Technically, speaking mind-to-mind is exactly like telepathy and should be listed as such with all the parameters in place.

Quote:
It's not so much evil, as they are bound at a very basic level. This is common in stories even with good fairies. Basically when bound to them, they tend to love their mistress to an obsessive degree. I'm basically going for something right out of Grimm tales.
Point taken. I'm just not a fan of Save or Die effects.


Quote:
It's hinted in the story that she is the one who killed him. To honor him is actually a jibe at his memory. 'I killed you on this day, you SOB'. Why are fairy circles so common in literature? I dunno. It'd be different for each creature of Faerie. Much of the time its just because they like a party and intrusive mortals are often good entertainment.
Missed my Spot check on this. That's as good a reason as any although the particulars would be unique to every individual.


Quote:
I'll give it another look over and see what I can change.
I am looking forward to it.

Quote:
Because if you look in most, if not all, books the sample creature is listed before the actual template. I'm simply doing it the 'official' way.
Oh, you mean the sucky way in MM3 and later books. Phooey! Technically, the "official" way is the way presented in the SRD and core books. This is just a pet peeve of mine because I think the OGC material is easier on the eyes than the later stuff.

Debby
__________________
P.E.A.C.H. Please Evaluate And Critique Honestly. Being nicer and kinder doesn't hurt either.

Please, please, please when using non-core material, cite to the books. There are too many books to wade through to find the one with the feat, special ability or spell you use.

I've got a red pen and I'm not afraid to use it.

my creations
Debihuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:34 AM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Usage of this site, including but not limited to making or editing a post or private message or the creation of an account, constitutes acceptance of the Forum Rules.