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Old 05-26-2011, 01:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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So I am making a Pokemon hack over the summer. I hope to have at least 152 new Fakemon for it, and the region itself will be a much more surreal region. It will include Undine Sciences (a rival of Sylph Co.) who's president could easily give Cave Johnson a run for his money, Gym Leaders that follow unique themes, and Pokemon that are a combination of "Aw Yeah Cool" and laughing.

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This. Is. AWESOME!

I dunno if it's realistic though...which game are you planning to hack for this?

And as for ideas, how about a crocodile/alligator/caiman which is, y'know, WATER-type? Krookodile's cool and all, but the typing just doesn't click. Same for Hippowdon, it begs for a Water-type equivalent. Other than that...maybe a legendary Rock-type ape Pokemon? For the source, look up the Chinese legend of the Monkey King, it's pretty cool. If you think that there are WAY TOO MANY MONKEYS ALREADY, then change it up, I just think a pure Rock legendary would be nice.

Also, question which you probably can't answer: If you were to make this hack and play it on an emulator that supports trading, would I be able to trade these into a regular ROM? Because my friend has ways of getting the ROM onto an actual DS from there...and kicking someone's ass with these at school would be hilarious.
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This. Is. AWESOME!

I dunno if it's realistic though...which game are you planning to hack for this?

And as for ideas, how about a crocodile/alligator/caiman which is, y'know, WATER-type? Krookodile's cool and all, but the typing just doesn't click. Same for Hippowdon, it begs for a Water-type equivalent. Other than that...maybe a legendary Rock-type ape Pokemon? For the source, look up the Chinese legend of the Monkey King, it's pretty cool. If you think that there are WAY TOO MANY MONKEYS ALREADY, then change it up, I just think a pure Rock legendary would be nice.

Also, question which you probably can't answer: If you were to make this hack and play it on an emulator that supports trading, would I be able to trade these into a regular ROM? Because my friend has ways of getting the ROM onto an actual DS from there...and kicking someone's ass with these at school would be hilarious.
1. They already had one, it's called Totodile. The hippo or the rock ape may be cool though.

2. Sadly, any hack that would allow trading could only truly trade with the same game. For example: Leafether would take Bulbasaur's place in the Pokedex, so the best we could hope for is a trade that would change Leafether into Bulbasaur. However, if you both were somehow playing this hack, yes, trading may be possible. If I can get it to work, I may even make some trade evolutions.

Hm... A water type Hippo makes sense, yes... Too bad there are already elemental monkeys... But maybe some other animal can fit the same niche as the monkeys or Eevee...

Maybe a trio of frogs?
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Maybe a trio of frogs?
...Beer. Beer is all I can think of when you say this, sorry.

I would recommend removing the secondary type from Leafether, giving it only after evolution. Also make Liferno a Fire/Ground type to round out the rock/paper/scissors aspect.


I've always wanted to hack in a Normal/Flying type based on an albatross which becomes a pure Flying type on its final evolution. Along with a Normal/Ghost type based on a zombie.
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...Beer. Beer is all I can think of when you say this, sorry.

I would recommend removing the secondary type from Leafether, giving it only after evolution. Also make Liferno a Fire/Ground type to round out the rock/paper/scissors aspect.


I've always wanted to hack in a Normal/Flying type based on an albatross which becomes a pure Flying type on its final evolution. Along with a Normal/Ghost type based on a zombie.
Nah, I like Leafether as is, but I may do the Fire/Ground for Catorch or Liferno.

That Normal/Ghost and Normal Flying... I like. I like a lot. I did have a Normal/Flying I was going to make either Dark/Flying or Fighting/Flying eventually.
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Id just like to say that you are most certainly awesome, and while i am artisticly retarded and couldn’t hack me way out of a paper bag i am a long term pokemon obsessive and have put a lot of work into a pen and paper rpg conversion for Pokemon, which has gotten me very familiar with the mechanics of Pokemon and its balance. I also have a rather large stock of fake mons im sitting on as well. I would be glad to help out in any way if you would like.


And i would recommend avoiding anything that looks like it might be a trade evolution, even from far away with a bad telescope. Getting them on any kind of rom is nothing short of hair raising painful.
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Id just like to say that you are most certainly awesome, and while i am artisticly retarded and couldn’t hack me way out of a paper bag i am a long term pokemon obsessive and have put a lot of work into a pen and paper rpg conversion for Pokemon, which has gotten me very familiar with the mechanics of Pokemon and its balance. I also have a rather large stock of fake mons im sitting on as well. I would be glad to help out in any way if you would like.


And i would recommend avoiding anything that looks like it might be a trade evolution, even from far away with a bad telescope. Getting them on any kind of rom is nothing short of hair raising painful.
Don't worry, until I figure out how to implement trades properly or get a NDS card that plays .gba roms, I'm going to be changing all Trade Evos to Stone or Happiness Evos.

I did have one idea from my girlfriend. A set of Pokemon that, if you catch them, could be holding an evolution stone tied to their family. It'd be a Rock/Insert Other Element Here type.

Of course, her explanation was that it defecates evolution stones... which kind of ruins the rest of Pokemon for me, but gives me a great respect for Ash's Pikachu...

Also, I have Leafether, Sphevae, Turrecoon and Carofly done. The Sphevae line are all obviously hacked sprites, but Leafether was drawn by hand. I'll add them to the first post asap.

And making a list up there of planned mons, I see we're at at least 165 Mons, including the Legendary Elephants, the Legendary Lights (and Darkness), the Legendary Horrors, the ones you'll have to hunt, and the Solo Legendaries. Also, the Lights will be similiar to Manaphy so... yeah. Have fun there (though I may make the Horrors also like that... heh.) Oh wait, I just remembered a few I gotta change, gonna go edit the list again!
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For the water starter how about a Water/Ground or Water/Fighter that can use a variety of Ground attacks? It'd keep the references to Journey to The West pokémon seems to be trying.
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So, is this basically going to be something like Pokemon Chaos Black?(a fan-made Pokemon game that was hacked onto a ton of GBA carts and now seems to be fairly regularly sold on E-bay)?
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Well, the fan-made Pokemon game part, not the hacked onto a ton of GBA carts and fairly regularly sold on eBay part.
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Well, the fan-made Pokemon game part, not the hacked onto a ton of GBA carts and fairly regularly sold on eBay part.
Cool, well, if you ever get it fully made, you'll have to let us all know, and then tell us if your interested in selling it to others ^^. I've never played Chaos Black but I've tended to hear a lot of good things about it.
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For legendaries, the ones you have to chase... I was thinking you could maybe do like tunneling creatures, so when they run away they burrow into the ground and escape. And they could either all share the ground type and another type, or handwave that and pick 3 or 4 elements that follow the rock paper scissors well enough.

That's as far as I've thought on this...
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That's... kind of illegal. Unless alchemyprime secretly bought the rights to Pokémon or something. I doubt the creator of ChaosBlack ever intended it to be sold, and I'm sure he's not making any money from it.
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It's both Whomi and Whodis. They're Time Lords and TARDIS, respectively.

Alchemy, you are a horrible, horrible person for that.
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That's... kind of illegal. Unless alchemyprime secretly bought the rights to Pokémon or something. I doubt the creator of ChaosBlack ever intended it to be sold, and I'm sure he's not making any money from it.
I wouldn't pay him for pokemon, I'd pay him for the SD card that he put his hard work onto ^^ You are right though, I doubt Chaos Blacks creator makes anything off of it either. If it wasn't for that little fact, I'd probably have bought it off E-bay by now, but I don't want to support pirates. On the other hand, Alchemyprimes is a person from this forum, one that I happen to frequent, so if I paid him for the SD card + a little tip, I'm thinking that would be legal + I know I'd be supporting the person who did it directly.
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I wouldn't pay him for pokemon, I'd pay him for the SD card that he put his hard work onto ^^ You are right though, I doubt Chaos Blacks creator makes anything off of it either. If it wasn't for that little fact, I'd probably have bought it off E-bay by now, but I don't want to support pirates. On the other hand, Alchemyprimes is a person from this forum, one that I happen to frequent, so if I paid him for the SD card + a little tip, I'm thinking that would be legal + I know I'd be supporting the person who did it directly.
I would not charge for this. I would make it a free distribution of the ROM to anyone who asked me, like any good hack. I know some carts let you play .gba roms on the NDS.

I will start up PayPal donations, though, and for my other project this summer (starting up my first set of webcomics/stories/book) I will gladly let you tip me. But Pokemon Alchemy will be free to anyone who wants to play, because it is purely for fun.
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It's both Whomi and Whodis. They're Time Lords and TARDIS, respectively.

Alchemy, you are a horrible, horrible person for that.
Actually, Whomi is a Time Lord that looks like a little Sonic Screwdriver.

Also, Greskot and Deloskot are another time traveler/time machine combo.

Say Greskot really fast. Gray Scott. Also, Deloskot sometimes need to fly at roughly, oh,142 kilometers per hour to reach the Distortion World.
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You, sir, have created the best Pokerman possible. Here is your medal. Everyone else can just give up.
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I would not charge for this. I would make it a free distribution of the ROM to anyone who asked me, like any good hack. I know some carts let you play .gba roms on the NDS.

I will start up PayPal donations, though, and for my other project this summer (starting up my first set of webcomics/stories/book) I will gladly let you tip me. But Pokemon Alchemy will be free to anyone who wants to play, because it is purely for fun.
Just let me know when you do and when you finish Pokemon Alchemy as I am interested in playing it :)
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Make sure you have VisualBoy then. I plan to have it ready by the end of August.
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Perhaps for a psychic type you could use Tarsier or Aye-aye type pokemon. Also perhaps you could use an anglerfish style pokemon for the Dark/light or an aquatic. A Dumbo Octopus would make a good aquatic too.
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I I like the idea of the Aye-Aye as a psychic type... Also, I am actually DEATHLY afraid of octopi and squids, but I can see that making a nice Water/Dark or Water/Psychic type...
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OK, this is really obscure, but I just remembered something really awesome from a project I did in Bio with a friend. His part of it was on this thing called a "mantis shrimp"...basically, it can shoot out its claws and stab you at something like 60 MILES PER HOUR. No kidding, it apparently heats up the water around it when it attacks...

So how about that, a Water/Fighting or Water/Bug shrimp with moves like Mach Punch, Scald (to imitate the boiling water), some run-of-the-mill Bug, Fighting, and Water moves...and stat-wise, high speed and attack stats. I feel like this thing shouldn't need an evolution or pre-evolution...
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OK, this is really obscure, but I just remembered something really awesome from a project I did in Bio with a friend. His part of it was on this thing called a "mantis shrimp"...basically, it can shoot out its claws and stab you at something like 60 MILES PER HOUR. No kidding, it apparently heats up the water around it when it attacks...

So how about that, a Water/Fighting or Water/Bug shrimp with moves like Mach Punch, Scald (to imitate the boiling water), some run-of-the-mill Bug, Fighting, and Water moves...and stat-wise, high speed and attack stats. I feel like this thing shouldn't need an evolution or pre-evolution...
Reminds me of a shrimp I've heard of that killed small fish and other shrimp with a shockwave created by snapping its claw shut. Also thetylosaurus and theBasilosaurus seem like they could make good fossil, aquatic, or legendary pokemon.

EDIT: The Kutchicetus, Remingtonocetus, and Georgiacetus also look interesting.
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Some interesting deepsea creatures out there. I suggest using the mimic octopus (Mimic or Color Change?), gulper eel (Suction Cups + Tail Glow?) or vampire squid (Forewarn + Flash?).

Also a Bug/Dark type based on a termite which evolves twice, just for an excuse to use the name Terminite.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #28
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I like the idea. I just wonder about the scope of this project. Look forward to hear your progress.
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:34 AM   Top  -  End  -  #29
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Reminds me of a shrimp I've heard of that killed small fish and other shrimp with a shockwave created by snapping its claw shut. Also thetylosaurus and theBasilosaurus seem like they could make good fossil, aquatic, or legendary pokemon.

EDIT: The Kutchicetus, Remingtonocetus, and Georgiacetus also look interesting.
That shrimp you remember? Is the pistrol shrimp, the inspiration for Shrimstol, Iona's Water Starter. Also, I think Kutchicetus could make a nice fossil Pokemon, perhaps a Rock/Water type as it was a protowhale.


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Some interesting deepsea creatures out there. I suggest using the mimic octopus (Mimic or Color Change?), gulper eel (Suction Cups + Tail Glow?) or vampire squid (Forewarn + Flash?).

Also a Bug/Dark type based on a termite which evolves twice, just for an excuse to use the name Terminite.

I like the idea for Terminite. A nice Bug that becomes Bug/Dark or Bug/Grass depending on how you evolve it.

And again: I AM FREAKING TERRIFIED OF TENTACLED THINGS STOP SHOWING ME THEM!

Okay, you can, but now I need to watch stuff to not have nightmares.
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:01 AM   Top  -  End  -  #30
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Grass/Ghost or Grass/Dark, vampire melon.

It must be done.
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