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Old 05-30-2011, 10:47 AM   Top  -  End  -  #481
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I think I'm gonna do this in chunks... at least until I catch up...

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Sorry, we didn't meet again so I need to wait until next week. I'll be back then!
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Ahhhh... the single roll that got botched? right at the end, he tries to make a roll on his... lemme see, it was one of the mental attributes and poetry, to understand the Ven Twa (Hidden Tongue, a metaphorical language used by House Al-Malik).

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What I was aiming for there was a more experimental piece, where the viewpoint (Finlay) is first concentrating almost completely on laying his sister to rest, and then justifying it in his own mind. So yes, the time scale is fairly ambiguous, and I apologise for that. Other Finlay Houlihan stories shall be, as you've noticed, a bit more straightforward.

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*chuckles* yeah, I enjoyed writing that one, showing, as it were, good irish hospitality. I was actually terrified I'd gotten my north and south ireland mixed up, but thankfully, my irish friends assured me I'd gotten the split right. There might be more of Kathy within the Finlay Houlihan shorts, I haven't decided yet... after all, it'd be very awkward, what with him working for the Hunters, and her being a Forsaken...

I would comment on the pieces that have been put up since I last wrote, but, unfortunately, my computer's borked (writing from the library), so it'll have to wait till I get back! Promising some more Finlay, and a little Eberron fiction, both after a) my 'puter's returned, and b) assignment is handed in!
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-shoves thread backinto the spot light-

so.... I've learned my lesson about promising things in advance.... I'll stop doing that

I need to start writing again....

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I'd say I'm trying... but I'm really not My muse seems to have abandonded me
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I know, and you produce great things.


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1) I worry when I don't get a notification that one of my favorite threads has had a new reply for a week or so
2) I have no sense of time, this effects item 1
3) more people should be writing
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Well hey, I'd appreciate a review or something :p

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Hey. You still owe me a review of that Lyra snippet. Punk.
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ooooh Steampunk elf? hm.

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Raziere. Seriously. Break up your paragraphs. Your wall of text posts are painful on the eyes, my friend. Painful on the eyes.

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broke it up a little, that better?
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Much easier on the eyes, though you've got some awkward wordings and capitalization issues. Honestly, the action seems pretty okay (the awkward wording makes it chop a bit), but you spend a lot of time emphasizing the idea that Nature is coming back...which they don't really care about. Or know about, really. Modern elves grew up like they are, and so did their parents, and grandparents, and their great-grandparents before them. Their bond with the city, with steel and grease and flame, is inbound now, as much a part of them as breathing. My snippet didn't get a lot into the steel bond, but the city bond is there for those that look.

Any thoughts on Soot & Smoke, Raziere?
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I seem to have gotten into the habit of Megaposts. Please bear with me.

Lord Gareth, Endgame, parts 1 and 2: Gah, did I get stuck on reviewing that one. For some reason, I just couldn't get it on the first several readings. And then, after I let it sit for a couple of weeks, I re-read it... And it fell into place. Damn, that was good.

I like Summer's characteristic straightforwardness. I like how Spring marches into a mundane's head and opens his brain with a cheerful smile. I like how Winter finds with dispassionate ruthlessness - until something breaks in their minds and they start going on until they just die.

Autumn is harder to understand. And probably could have been creepier, for they are the children of Fear. What is the Mask?

Anyhow, waiting for part three eagerly!

I *will* take you up on the steampunk elf challenge in a couple days' time! Though that's probably going to be more Navy Seal elf... It's a longstanding fantasy of mine that has yet to take form. I'll review yours and Lord Raziere's story ASAP after this post, though.

Lady Moreta, Leith: I kinda have to agree with Lord Gareth here. The style is good, as usual, but the composition stumbles. Your piece is long, but doesn't tell us anything about Leith except that she holds her fathers bow very dear, and the tasks he gives her, as well. Very Lawful, she seems. But not much else. I'd like to see her character more established.

On an off-topic: I, too, would like to hear a more expanded opinion on the Jailin stories, if you're up for it.

Darkpuppy, A Strong Arm and a Sharp Eye: wonderful! I enjoy it when stories suddenly go off elsewhere because of chance. It seems so very human, and it always gets my interest up. I loved how it was all stoic and then very ironic. It makes the world believable.

Opposite and Good Craic: Finlay is good. I like especially how you play to the name and the mythology around it. You could get the correlation even from the first piece, and after the second one, well, the Irish fangirl in me squealed a bit. I hope you expand more on that!

I did have a bit of a hard time reading due to the slang. But that's my problem in this case, not yours. What's a pigsticker? A kind of knife?

And you kind of lost me at first on who actually fought when the brawl began. I had to re-read it to make sure.

Big Teej, The fight in the mountains: same general criticism as before. Modern expressions used in each piece make every piece harder to read. Your style here is inconsistent. I can't get a feel for the character. Is he intelligent or stupid? Is he playing or is it serious? How the heck does he know the word "melodrama"? These little things make or break the story.

The Extermination of the Draken Tribe is better. Far better. The man is simple, not stupid. He can cry when it's appropriate. Even though you use uncharacteristic words again - "migration" comes to mind - it seems more appropriate, because you can believe the character from a tribe with a history of movement would actually have such a word.

"Pain is painful" is always redundant, though. Your piece is no exception.

Nonetheless, "open my face to the sky" is a very good turn of phrase.

Darkpuppy again, Lamb of God: He is a Lasombra, isn't he? Or at least a candidate for being Embraced by one? :) I like Father Michael. Morgana, however, would tell him that the sin of pride comes before all of those others he's committed and is their cause. She knows, she's been there.

He's still a priest because he can influence people better? He seems to believe in God at least in part yet. Just desperate enough to do God's work.

Anyway, the story flows fine. I can't really find anything to nitpick here.

And my own, because, like Darkpuppy, I hate just posting critique, though I really should do it more often.

This is an excerpt from a large work of mine, which is unfortunately in Russian and is hardly snippetable, because I'm trying to make a complex storyline. It is the story of Roderick (Morgana's sire) and Lindbergh (a Tremere), and their rivalry over the course of 500 years. But there's a few bits that might stand on their own, and I may be translating them from time to time. This is a piece that focuses on my only favorite character groups to play that hasn't been on this thread yet - the Tremere. Warning: fanon present - our city usually plays the Presidium all on a second-step bond to the Clan, and the Rodolpho on the third.

For those who don't know what the Tremere are - they're mages that turned themselves into vampires through an experiment on immortality gone freakishly wrong. Like most mages everywhere, the initial group was too damn proud to admit it. And so the younger initiates usually thought vampiric magic was the best thing since the invention of fire, and only those who were mages in their human life (and the Tremere Embraced their share of those, including Lindbergh) knew that it was scraps from the table. This is a story of how another Tremere comes to realize this truth.

If any of you have access to Dvorak's Humoresque, I wrote this piece to it. I can't find my favorite version, but any one with violin and piano more-or-less does the trick. Of those available on Youtube - Josef Suk's.

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Hrm, well, let's see... got one now, shall do a couple tomorrow after I record my Let's Play footage for this half of the week (Two sets of LEGO Batman, heh). Anyways, the first is taking up Lord Gareth's writing challenge, so, for your enjoyment:

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EDIT: And Werekat, were the Lasombra in the nWoD, Father Michael would definitely be a candidate. At the moment, though, he's Finlay Houlihan's "Handler" for Malleus Maleficorum (Sheesh, what an idiot I feel like, what else would they call it?), the christian extremist Hunter organisation.

As to Finlay, thankin' ye kindly, to be sure! The slang can be a bit of a trouble, but yeah, a pigsticker is basically the sort of knife you'd use to cut pig's throats, so it's big, and mean (In crunch terms, Kat stabbed Sean's hand with a Klaive... OUCH!). As to who was fighting? Pretty much Fin and Kat versus everyone else. Poor Finlay, there's another place he won't be able to drink for "sympathising with the enemy"... I'm working on more Finlay Houlihan stuff, I promise!

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Going backwards for a few stories:-

Werekat - Subtle... verrrry, subtle. Perhaps a wee bit too subtle, but I think the educated souls here will get it. But very, very Tremere. Bravo!

Lords Gareth and Raziere - To be honest, an elf in a steampunk setting could still be nature bound (and thus disliking the soot and smoke, forced by circumstance and shrinking territory, et al), but Lord Gareth is correct that the rhythm seems... off, somehow. Can't really see where, but it does seem off. Also, para breaks are, as noted, Lord Raziere, essential. But you'll get the hang of it! Lord Gareth, interesting as always, although if it weren't for the challenge, I wouldn't precisely know your character was an elf.

EDIT 3: Can't sleep just yet, so here's some Finlay for you. Yes, Dublin is a busy place, WoD wise, and, to clarify, the gentleman he met was a Geist (humans given a "second life" by an archetypal Ghost, in exchange for being living Anchors (Geist - The Sin Eaters)

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Darkpuppy: Gah, nWoD. I'd forgotten. I haven't played it yet: I enjoy the old setting a bit too much to.

Do they cut the throats of pigs where you live? 'Cause that's a lot of blood wasted that usually goes into sausages, and that's a pig that thrashes and can seriously hurt the throat-cutter. They usually use a stiletto-type thing where I live, and rupture the heart in one strike. Failing that, a gun.

A little critique for your newest piece: unless Finlay has some weird power, a chair is not going to save him at that distance. Believe me. I do some shooting, and even a rubber-bullet traumatic gun goes through centimeters of wood at that distance. A regular lead bullet makes a nice hole in the chair and the guy behind it as well.

Besides that point, I like the whole "who judges the self-appointed judges" thing. Once again, I'd love to get Morgana into that whole story of yours. An ovate-turned-Kiasyd is something that would work well, I gather, if they could keep from killing each other.

For the automata: nice! A bit more faery than elven, but can't say that stopped me from enjoying it.

For my own piece: Subtle? Not precisely what I'd choose to call the piece. Why subtle? Because of all the mythological and alchemical references? And what can you say about the characters, if anything?

And have you anything to say for the Jailin and Cypher stories?

Lord Gareth: Oooh. I now read the setting. I like it. A lot. I'd like to read more on it, and maybe to play it. And I liked the discussion on nature and how elves might relate to it in steampunk, so I wrote this little piece. I took the liberty of making some assumptions for Dreavarrian clerics and druids. If you have anything official written on them, I'd enjoy reading it!

Critique for your own piece: yeah, the familial relations between your elf's parents are kind of weird, if you ask me. They seem more human than anything. Take away the ages, and you get a human rogue. What makes her and her family an elf? I'd like to see the "connection to the city" angle emphasized. Then again, that's not the rogue's strong point, probably.

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Lord Raziere: Your work made me like it besides the mistakes, which is a feat. You do great work in the details. The Partsintools bag is a nice touch, as are the "It'll do" clothes.

I don't have a problem with someone "missing" nature - you always get the mainstream and the reaction, it's a classic part of culture.

What I didn't like is the fact that she thought to look for a weapon out of logic, not out of intuition. In combat, order of the day is survive first, think about scrounging something else later. Seriously, if she'd felt there was a weapon through her connection, it would have been loads more believable.

I like the way she uses her connection to fix the cannon, though. And I love elves in camouflage. I even drew a picture of one once, and that should tell you just how hard I find it to get out of my head.

As for problems in the text - I think your problems come mostly from the wording. It's clumsy in places, and there are little typos and mistakes that make it difficult to concentrate. No apostrophe in "because" when shortened to "'cause", an "a" where a "the" would be appropriate, a "had" where a "has" should be, "being" instead of "begin". That sort of thing. The worst are the mistakes that can be fixed two ways and you have to stop, separate yourself from the story, and think what the author must have meant. This interrupts the flow. A lot. Be more attentive, and you should be fine.

And I translated another snippet for Lindbergh. Hopefully, it's also very Tremere.


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Darkpuppy: Gah, nWoD. I'd forgotten. I haven't played it yet: I enjoy the old setting a bit too much to.

Do they cut the throats of pigs where you live? 'Cause that's a lot of blood wasted that usually goes into sausages, and that's a pig that thrashes and can seriously hurt the throat-cutter. They usually use a stiletto-type thing where I live, and rupture the heart in one strike. Failing that, a gun.

A little critique for your newest piece: unless Finlay has some weird power, a chair is not going to save him at that distance. Believe me. I do some shooting, and even a rubber-bullet traumatic gun goes through centimeters of wood at that distance. A regular lead bullet makes a nice hole in the chair and the guy behind it as well.

Besides that point, I like the whole "who judges the self-appointed judges" thing. Once again, I'd love to get Morgana into that whole story of yours. An ovate-turned-Kiasyd is something that would work well, I gather, if they could keep from killing each other.

For the automata: nice! A bit more faery than elven, but can't say that stopped me from enjoying it.

For my own piece: Subtle? Not precisely what I'd choose to call the piece. Why subtle? Because of all the mythological and alchemical references? And what can you say about the characters, if anything?

And have you anything to say for the Jailin and Cypher stories?

Lord Gareth: Oooh. I now read the setting. I like it. A lot. I'd like to read more on it, and maybe to play it. And I liked the discussion on nature and how elves might relate to it in steampunk, so I wrote this little piece. I took the liberty of making some assumptions for Dreavarrian clerics and druids. If you have anything official written on them, I'd enjoy reading it!

Critique for your own piece: yeah, the familial relations between your elf's parents are kind of weird, if you ask me. They seem more human than anything. Take away the ages, and you get a human rogue. What makes her and her family an elf? I'd like to see the "connection to the city" angle emphasized. Then again, that's not the rogue's strong point, probably.

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Lord Raziere: Your work made me like it besides the mistakes, which is a feat. You do great work in the details. The Partsintools bag is a nice touch, as are the "It'll do" clothes.

I don't have a problem with someone "missing" nature - you always get the mainstream and the reaction, it's a classic part of culture.

What I didn't like is the fact that she thought to look for a weapon out of logic, not out of intuition. In combat, order of the day is survive first, think about scrounging something else later. Seriously, if she'd felt there was a weapon through her connection, it would have been loads more believable.

I like the way she uses her connection to fix the cannon, though. And I love elves in camouflage. I even drew a picture of one once, and that should tell you just how hard I find it to get out of my head.

As for problems in the text - I think your problems come mostly from the wording. It's clumsy in places, and there are little typos and mistakes that make it difficult to concentrate. No apostrophe in "because" when shortened to "'cause", an "a" where a "the" would be appropriate, a "had" where a "has" should be, "being" instead of "begin". That sort of thing. The worst are the mistakes that can be fixed two ways and you have to stop, separate yourself from the story, and think what the author must have meant. This interrupts the flow. A lot. Be more attentive, and you should be fine.

And I translated another snippet for Lindbergh. Hopefully, it's also very Tremere.


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Lord Gareth: Oooh. I now read the setting. I like it. A lot. I'd like to read more on it, and maybe to play it. And I liked the discussion on nature and how elves might relate to it in steampunk, so I wrote this little piece. I took the liberty of making some assumptions for Dreavarrian clerics and druids. If you have anything official written on them, I'd enjoy reading it!
Well, clerics are explicitly a banned class in Dreavarr, not out of concerns for balance but because the gods hate you. Yes, you. Specifically. They spend time out of their day to get to know you and find reasons to hate you, and then they stop thinking about you entirely. They aren't interested in your prayers except as tools with which to make you miserable, and they're only interested in your worship insofar as they need it to survive. There's a reason the world is trapped in eternal warfare.

Druids, on the other hand, tend to be quixotic figures, the servants of a war that was lost a long time ago. They tend to be street shamans and rat-kings, scraping along in their gutters and stealing what they need to survive and spending any money they can get on tomes or retaining mages to help them study the problem and try to reclaim some of the mutated, magic-harrowed wastelands of the world. Most of them end up adventuring just to leave the smoke and smog of the city.

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Critique for your own piece: yeah, the familial relations between your elf's parents are kind of weird, if you ask me. They seem more human than anything. Take away the ages, and you get a human rogue. What makes her and her family an elf? I'd like to see the "connection to the city" angle emphasized. Then again, that's not the rogue's strong point, probably.
Thing is, a lot of elves on Dreavarr cack it early; life is nasty, brutish, and short in almost every place on this world, and the elf that lives more than a century and a half is either a hard-bitten survivor or so worthless that no one's bothered to kill them. As such, elven parents tend to be elven youths, and we all know the thing with young elves and acting human - namely, they do it. Part of the 'city' angle was the appreciation Kylla had for it - a human or dwarf or halfling might take pride in his city, but Kylla breathed in the pollution and smiled, looked at the ash and soot of progress and thought 'home'. No one else does that.

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Lord Gareth: that explains a lot. Looks like I got some stuff right, and some wrong. Did you find what I had written to be appropriate for your world?

As for Kylia - hm. I'd say that anyone who grew up in some environment will see it as the norm without a serious shake-up and a view of the alternative (some of the stuff they considered "the norm" in the FSU boggles the mind, for instance). They would all think "home," would they not?

Oh, and yes, elven youths. But if Kylia is somewhat over a century, how old are they?

And yes, I'd like to read your reviews very much.
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Oooh... stories... I'll um... read them... sure... later...

Okay, so I have a cold that has currently settled itself into my sinuses and is making my life miserable. I'll read and respond later, when I feel better.
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Bump for more critique and to help show this thread to some folks from another forum that I'm 'porting over.

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Sorry it's been a while, haven't really been able to get my head together. Anyways, comments and things!

Werekat - Aye, mainly due to the alchemical and mythological references. Still, peeps are smart here, they'll get it. As to Jalin and Cypher, I have nothing more to say beyond "well written". Your characters are good, and you have a clear sense of how to portray each.

As to the Hanging Judge, yeah... a Geist who's come to an accomodation with a seriously nasty archetype (sure, he'll be judge, jury, and executioner on a circuit, but on his terms), and someone who is going to cross paths with Finlay again. Haven't decided how or when yet though.

And yeah, in old times, they really did used to slit throats with a large blade. Kept the pigs fairly restrained for long enough to do the deed, and it was usually over a trough or other container large enought to make sure the blood didn't spill. Leastways, as far as I remember.

Anyways, yeah, new snippet. My promised Eberron one, and it was a bugger to write. Getting into the head of Warforged is hard.

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so I've got a monsterous thingy I have to go to/put up with this morning, so I've been a bit of a mess whilst waiting for it to get here. so I haven't been reading much of the new stuff.

now, I'm taking a personal day to deal with this, so once I'm through with it I SHOULD be able to come read all the new stuff AND

-happy dance-

write up a snippet or 3 about my summer group!
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I missed D&D again, so I don't know when we'll have it next. Probably not for 2 weeks though
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Much easier on the eyes, though you've got some awkward wordings and capitalization issues. Honestly, the action seems pretty okay (the awkward wording makes it chop a bit), but you spend a lot of time emphasizing the idea that Nature is coming back...which they don't really care about. Or know about, really. Modern elves grew up like they are, and so did their parents, and grandparents, and their great-grandparents before them. Their bond with the city, with steel and grease and flame, is inbound now, as much a part of them as breathing. My snippet didn't get a lot into the steel bond, but the city bond is there for those that look.

Any thoughts on Soot & Smoke, Raziere?
no I don't really emphasize that. I just say that some elves have a crazy belief that Nature might come back someday because of some elves having some random eye color might bring it back, these elves are laughed at, because their logic is about as sound a mute monk. I wasn't trying to.

here is me emphasizing that:
"Where I'm from, the elders say the other elves have long given up upon our old heritage...the heritage of nature, our connection with it. gave it up, exchanged it for a lesser connection with the vile steel, cogs and engines that destroyed it, traitors to the world....
but I move on, I survive. frack these machines that killed Mother Nature, frack them all. They killed the Mother of the Elves, they killed that legendary greenery....even though I have never seen it myself, I dream of it, we keep old pictures of that long gone nature....we preserve them, we keep them, cause, if we don't who will?

Let me share you a secret: I saw a plant. a beautiful blue flower out there, in the middle of the scrap wastes. growing. call me crazy, call me delusional, or that I saw a mirage from the heat or something...but I saw it.

I don't know if its a complete illusion, a product of my mind, some last remnant that somehow freakishly survived just waiting to die, a sign that Nature is still out there....or if its just one last middle finger to civilization before Nature goes out with a whimper. I don't know and I don't care. It gives me hope. It makes me march on."

as for your story, I like the portrayal of what a post-apocalyptic city would be like. do as you will.....every haphazard and patchwork.....just like it should be.
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here's a little something I whipped up last night.

it's amazing what you can do when you're inspired by something that just happened.

oh well,
I digress.

needless to say, I didn't sleep very well last night.

EDIT: story removed because I am attempting to get it published, if you wish to read it PM me and I'm more than happy to let you see it.
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Anyways, yeah, new snippet. My promised Eberron one, and it was a bugger to write. Getting into the head of Warforged is hard.
Well, it might have been hard to write, but it doesn't show - except in two places, which I'll get to in a minute.

This is very good, I think you got inside the warforged's head really well. You did a fantastic job of showing his motivations and thoughts without making it really obvious. I like the way of describing his thoughts as 'calculations' - just a tiny word change, but it makes a huge difference to how we see the character.

The second paragraph is fantastic. I can't think of anything more appropriate for a warforged to worship than knowledge and you do a fantastic job of setting that up and explaining why this warforged is seeking/worshipping knowledge without any big sort of exposition, which would have spoiled the affect. It's very natural, and there's a sort of lovely irony in that. It's so obvious so natural - and yet it's about a warforged, a creature that, let's face it, isn't natural.

One thing I would change: the sections in brackets. I would have put them in italics instead. I get that he's musing on knowledge and what to do with this situation and these little aside are just that - extra thoughts that just pop into his head because he is what he is and he can handle that much though processing at once. But I think it would be clearer if they were italicised, not bracketed (besides, it's not really the proper use of brackets ).

The biggest problem that I see is that it's not entirely clear what it is he's considering doing or not doing - and I say it's a big problem, because I get the feeling (and I could be wrong here) that it is meant to be clear. I think this boils down to a couple of sentences that don't really make sense.

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No matter how much certain knowledge must be hidden, and those who have it destroyed, it is no comfort to one who both seeks and prizes knowledge, wishing to share so that all may learn, become more.
I'm sorry, but apart from the fact that this is a horrible run-on sentence (which should be avoided like the plague ), this sentence makes absolutely no sense. I am pretty good at figuring out what something is meant to mean (comes from having a best friend for whom English isn't a native language), and I cannot figure out for the life of me what you're saying here. I think it needs a complete re-write, and I suspect, from the length of it, that it needs to be at least two sentences.

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On the one hand, the destruction, or at least delay, of knowledge regarding the enigmatic inhabitants of Dal Quor, the realm of dreams. The missed chance to gather such knowledge firsthand. On the other…
Although on a second reading, I think I see what you're saying - your guy is debating what to do - one option is to go after this knowledge and the other is to not and to destroy these 'Inspired' who I take it, are doing bad things? Again, it's a run-on sentence (the first one at least). I would advise re-writing it into two sentences. All those commas break up the sentence quite badly and screw with the flow, it's really hard to read.

Other than that, I really liked it

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it's amazing what you can do when you're inspired by something that just happened.

oh well,
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needless to say, I didn't sleep very well last night.
Every time I read this it creeps me out. I have to say Teej, I think this is the best thing you've ever written (which just goes to show the value of real-life inspiration). The last bit especially is very LoTR, Mines of Moria "We can't get out... we can't get out" which creeps me out even more.

I think the key to the success of this one is the short sentences. They keep it flowing, keep it punchy and keep the tension up. This guy is so nervous he's almost cutting himself off, he's aware his number's up and he doesn't have time for long rambling thought processes. He has to be quick if he's going to survive, and it comes through in the writing extremely well.

The other part that works really well is the list affect. The
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The cook.
The librarian whose name I could never remember.
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It’s in the vents.
It’s coming.
I can hear it.
I can hear it coming for me….
bits (and the others of course). It breaks up the narrative quite nicely. The narrative is us watching, him explaining what's happened, what he thinks will happen next, he's talking himself up, trying to convince himself that he's tough, he'll make it... but the italics/lists are that little voice that shows us that he is really freaked out. No matter how he tries to hide it, he's terrified. That combination is what makes this really work, he is an incredibly real and believable character.

I think more things should go crawling through your vents, you write good when you're freaked out
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