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Old 01-11-2012, 05:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #151
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No synergy, no easy exploits, no casting/manifesting/maneuvers/soulmelds/binding/mystery progression, NOTHING.
That factored heavily in why it was chosen.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:16 PM   Top  -  End  -  #152
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Well, my idea didn't really pan out, so I'm still clueless. After the Big Reveal, I'll mention what I tried to do, and where I failed.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #153
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That factored heavily in why it was chosen.
You...you PLANNED this?! You are pure evil!

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Old 01-11-2012, 09:16 PM   Top  -  End  -  #154
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I've never felt like I was fighting the SI as much as now. Most of the time, finding synergy with halfway decent classes, or even GOOD classes is possible. Not here. No synergy, no easy exploits, no casting/manifesting/maneuvers/soulmelds/binding/mystery progression, NOTHING. I actually like Frostburn less than I did before this challenge.
And lo did the Iron Chef claim another soul.
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:20 PM   Top  -  End  -  #155
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I might have figured out a way to use this beast. I'll know soon. If not, then I might just sit back and watch instead of judging (Since we seem to have a lot now).
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:09 PM   Top  -  End  -  #156
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And lo did the Iron Chef claim another soul.
That would certainly be the moment.

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Old 01-11-2012, 11:03 PM   Top  -  End  -  #157
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ugh I am really feeling the clock on this second entry. Good news is I made it work well enough to justify entering it and it is a pretty cool looking character. Bad News is the clock is ticking and of course it couldn't be a simple character so there is still butt loads of stuff to fill out. I wish I knew this computer voodoo that filled out your charts for you
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ugh I am really feeling the clock on this second entry. Good news is I made it work well enough to justify entering it and it is a pretty cool looking character. Bad News is the clock is ticking and of course it couldn't be a simple character so there is still butt loads of stuff to fill out. I wish I knew this computer voodoo that filled out your charts for you
Who do?

You just need to make a field entry like:
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and have it reference the correct fields.

Those numbers, in order, refer to fields in the spreadsheet referencing to following: Level, Class, Base Attack Bonus, Fort Save, Ref Save, Will Save, Skills, Feats, Class Features.

I made a chart with each level entry going across then used 20 lines like this underneath to concatenate the information into a single line with the appropriate BBCode to format it, then copy/pasted it here.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #159
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Who do?

You just need to make a field entry like:
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and have it reference the correct fields.

Those numbers, in order, refer to fields in the spreadsheet referencing to following: Level, Class, Base Attack Bonus, Fort Save, Ref Save, Will Save, Skills, Feats, Class Features.

I made a chart with each level entry going across then used 20 lines like this underneath to concatenate the information into a single line with the appropriate BBCode to format it, then copy/pasted it here.
I really really tried to understand what you just said... but sadly no... no I'm more lost now.
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:23 AM   Top  -  End  -  #160
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Do a google search for spreadsheet tutorials then. This isn't really the place to be teaching you, and I'm not a good teacher...
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:04 AM   Top  -  End  -  #161
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Who do?

You just need to make a field entry like:
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and have it reference the correct fields.

Those numbers, in order, refer to fields in the spreadsheet referencing to following: Level, Class, Base Attack Bonus, Fort Save, Ref Save, Will Save, Skills, Feats, Class Features.

I made a chart with each level entry going across then used 20 lines like this underneath to concatenate the information into a single line with the appropriate BBCode to format it, then copy/pasted it here.
The thing I love about Excel is when people much more versed than myself can point out simple, elegant solutions to replace my awful guerilla tactics. This whole time, I've been typing up the table in Excel with semicolons wherever I intend to have final commas. Then, I save it as a comma delimited file and open in Word. Two quick "find & replace"s change my commas to |s and my semicolons to commas.

But concatenating is just so much simpler. Bless you, Jeriah.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:16 PM   Top  -  End  -  #162
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YES!

Just finished the second entry, and not a moment too soon. I have something to do tonight and would not have had time to work on it tomorrow before the deadline.

It was a bastard of a challenge for sure but I have to say now that it was over I had a lot of fun. I really can't believe I squeezed 2 pretty cool builds out of such a horribly designed PrC.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:11 AM   Top  -  End  -  #163
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Little under a day left, yes?

Seems like people really had some trouble with this one, heh.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #164
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7 and a half hours til the deadline, I wonder if we will get any last minute entries?
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I've been back and forth over mine so many times and finally decided not to submit...It works totally in spite of Cyro instead of with it, and I'm so busy with a recruit thread in pbp forum that I can't get my head round what I need to change to make it happen.


And I used to love Frostburn too.....
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I think I'm in the same boat as FyreByrd. My build works in spite of Cryo and does nothing particularly great with it. It could be a good deal stronger without it too. I probably will not submit.

Damn you and your evil prestige-class-pickery, Amphetryon! That's two contests in a row that have stumped me until the last few days, leaving no time to finish an entry!
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Well, I'm glad I submitted mine a few days ago.
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Deadline in 2 minutes!!

I wonder how long it will be until the BIG REVEAL!

(excited)

I wonder how many entries there ended up being. I know there were at least 3 but I am hoping for more. I don't like the idea of automatically placing simply due to lack of contestants.


*Edit: Apparently, it took 2 minutes to type this message... deadline is now.

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Old 01-13-2012, 07:21 PM   Top  -  End  -  #169
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Now it's time for the reveal! Please refrain from posting in the thread until after I give the all-clear. Thanks.
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The old man down the road. . . .
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He summons the storms of the North and rides them down from the heavens. The blizzard is his breath and the ice his skin. He plucks away the lives of men who are foolish enough to tempt his domain. Beware the storms. Beware the Storms.”-Geirham, the Beard; Ten Towns Storyteller-

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Old 01-13-2012, 07:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #171
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Got the calypso beat down cold. . . .
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Calipso the Icicle.

I'm a Small Icicle, a Beauty to Behold, but I Sting like a Needle!


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Old 01-13-2012, 07:29 PM   Top  -  End  -  #172
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Ice like a mirror. . . .
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This land where flame and frost do meet,
There elemental heart doth beat.
Here born of ice and fire am I,
Entering in, you now must die.

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Old 01-13-2012, 07:32 PM   Top  -  End  -  #173
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Chilled alphabet soup, anyone?
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Every resource should be used in the battle against the spawn of Tiamat. A true martial artist is not restricted in his use of weapons, a spear, a fist, a staircase, all of them can be used to combat the forces of evil. The Smashing Good Architect of the Curb Stomping Platinum Dragon is such a martial artist. He not only uses his spear to defeat his foes, but also the environment around him. But sometimes, the laws of narrative contrivence just let you down. You are ready to shove the villain out a window, and there is no window there! You are about to smack an Ogre against a wall, but it was made out of cheap drywall!

What's a hero to do?

Manifest a wall.

The Smashing Good Architect of the Curb-Stomping Platinum Dragon (SGACSPD) believes that both destruction and tactical improvisational architecture are essential tools in the war against the Dragonspawn of Tiamat. And when fighting evil, it is best to do so like Fonzie. Fonzie is cool.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:35 PM   Top  -  End  -  #174
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Bjorn, free(ze)
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #175
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That's the last of them, folks. On your mark, get set, JUDGE!
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  • Old Man Winter - Human (Illuskan) Wilder 10/Cryokineticist 10
  • Calipso the Icicle - Pixie Wilder 6/Cryokineticist 10
  • The Antipode - Feytouched Paladin (Harmonious Knight) 3/Ardent 2/Cryokineticist 9/Pyrokineticist 6
  • SGACSPD - Dragonborn Human Fighter (Dungeoncrasher) 6/Ardent 4/Cyrokineticist 10
  • Bjorn Doragoniru - Human Ardent 3/Icarnate 3/Soul Manifester 9/Cyrokineticist 5

...took me a while to figure out SGACSPD's race!

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Old 01-13-2012, 08:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #177
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I wish I would have been able to complete my entry before the deadline. I'll finish it up and post it anyway, but it's disappointing that I'll be out of the running.
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Old Man Winter:
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:49 PM   Top  -  End  -  #179
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I might judge later, but I'm surprised we didn't see any Psychic Warriors around, with their compensatory feat progression and decent low level powers.
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-.5 for super strict judging
+.5 for applying it unbiased and across the board
+1 for super speedy judging

4.0 Judge!!!!!!!!!!
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