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Old 02-13-2012, 09:12 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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Default [PF] Warlock Redesign [WIP]

So this thread has expanded to house my entire homebrew Warlock for Pathfinder. It is an obvious upconversion of the 3.5 Warlock, but with 45% more Sorcerer as this Warlock replaces Sorcerer in my homebrew setting.

Currently this thread has a fully developed warlock progression with new special abilities and altered progressions of existing abilities. I will be adding new invocations as well as the blood pact powers and invocations shortly.

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Bookmarking thread, Id like to see how this turns out!

But please please pretty please put in some paragraph breaks. It would do wonders for your readability.
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Fixed. Sorry about that.

Also, I'm going to go ahead and post up the whole of my warlock redesign/upconversion on here as a WIP. Any and all suggestions and comments would be heartily appreciated.
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Warlock
Sorcerer Alternate Class

HD: d8

Alignment: Any

Class Skills: Bluff (Cha), Craft (Int), Disguise (Cha), Fly, Intimidate (Cha), Knowledge (Arcana) (Int), Knowledge (the Planes) (Int), Knowledge (Religion) (Int), Profession (Wis), Sense Motive (Wis), Spellcraft (Int), and Use Magic Device (Cha).

Skill Points: 2 + Int

Armor and Weapon Proficiencies: Light Armor, Basic Weapons + 1

LevelBABFortRefWillSpecial
Invocations
1st+0+2+0+2Blood Pact, Least Invocations, Eldritch Blast 1d6
2
2nd+1+3+0+3DR 1/Pact, Detect Magic
3
3rd+1+3+1+3Pact Invocation, Blood Power, Eldritch Blast 2d6
3/1
4th+2+4+1+4DR 2/Pact, Deceive Item
4/1
5th+2+4+1+4Blood Resistance 10, Eldritch Blast 3d6
4/1
6th+3+5+2+5Lesser Invocations, DR 3/Pact
5/2
7th+3+5+2+5Eldritch Blast 4d6
5/2
8th+4+6+2+6DR 4/Pact, Pact Invocation
6/2
9th+4+6+3+6Blood Power, Eldritch Blast 5d6
6/3
10th+5+7+3+7Blood Resistance 20, DR 5/Pact
7/3
11th+5+7+3+7Greater Invocations, Eldritch Blast 6d6
7/3
12th+6/+1+8+4+8DR 6/Pact, Imbue Item
8/4
13th+6/+1+8+4+8Pact Invocation, Eldritch Blast 7d6
8/4
14th+7/+2+9+4+9DR 7/Pact
9/4
15th+7/+2+9+5+9Blood Power, Blood Resistance 30, Eldritch Blast 8d6
9/5
16th+8/+3+10+5+10Dark Invocations, DR 8/Pact
10/5
17th+8/+3+10+5+10Eldritch Blast 9d6
10/5
18th+9/+4+11+6+11Pact Invocation, DR 9/Pact
11/6
19th+9/+4+11+6+11Eldritch Blast 10d6
11/6
20th+10/+5+12+6+12Blood Immunity, DR 10/Pact, Pact Lorde
12/6

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Designer's Note: Right, so I supe'd the Eldritch Blast, DR, and Resistance abilities, dropped fiendish resistance, and added a new system for invocation selection. I added in a source of uniqueness based on various blood pacts (based heavily on the Sorcerer's bloodlines) and attempted to add to the warlock's versatility through invocation selection. Deceive and Imbue Item remained as written in the 3.5 Warlock entry.

Edit (1/24/13): Added Racial Favored Class alternate options.
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Warlock Blood Pacts

Warlock blood pacts are the direct source of warlock powers. There are two ways to become a warlock. The first, and most common by far, is to be born with the blood of a representative of a given blood pact. This could be a draconic or fey ancestor leading to the birth of a draconic or fey warlock, or this could represent a daemonic pact warlock ancestor who conceived their child after their own pact was made, as examples. However it came to pass, the blood of these warlocks is naturally tainted by their ancestry to result in their unique gifts. The second way to become a warlock is through a bargain with an eldritch power, such as a sidhe lorde or a daemon prince. Few warlocks gain their power though bargains as the ritual is complex and difficult to learn and perform, and also because few beings powerful enough to form such a pact are interested in creating an all-too-weak slave for their effort. The vast majority of warlocks created in this fashion are daemonic blood pact warlocks as daemons are most likely to offer such bargains in exchange for services, souls, or entry into the mortal world. Thus the name used by warlocks to represent their gifts granted by blood or earned through pacts, the blood pact.

Eldritch Blood Pact
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Aberrant Blood Pact
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Entropic Blood Pact
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Fey Blood Pact
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Necrotic Blood Pact
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Protean Blood Pact
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Obviously these are still very much a work in progress, but I will update them as I finish developing the invocations and powers.
Edit (2/15/12): Necrotic Blood Pact powers are now up!
Edit (3/5/12): Aberrant Blood Pact powers are now up! Draconic Blood Pact powers are now up! Entropic Blood Pact powers are now up, except level 9.
Edit (3/8/12): Entropic Blood Pact 9th level power is up!
Edit (9/9/12): Daemonic Blood Pact powers are now up! Fey Blood Pact powers are now up! Protean Blood Pact powers are now up!
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Warlock Invocations (by grade)

Least
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Lesser
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Existing Invocation Descriptions
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New Invocation Descriptions
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Invocations which were preexisting have not been reprinted here due to copyright concerns. Invocations which are original, or have been offered by playgrounders have been printed here. More will be posted as they are developed.

Edit (9/11/12): Put up the existing warlock invocations with their assigned pacts. Still have some formatting to do, but it's late. I'll finish tomorrow.
Edit (9/12/12): Posted up the revised version of Hideous Blow and finished formatting existing warlock invocations. Added the first of the original invocations.
Edit (9/18/12): More original invocations are now up.
Edit (1/24/13): A large selection of new invocations are now up.
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This is shaping up to be something really awesome. Do keep up the good work!
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Thank you, but the hardest part will be building upwards of fifty new invocations plus special abilities. I will always be grateful for feedback.
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I can help with that if you like.

Check the links i found at the bottom of this thread if you want ideas.
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Hey, I would love any invocations you'd like to add. I like several of the ones in your link, so I can add those if you'd like. It's not much trouble to assign pacts to each one, but making up new ones is a complete pain.

Also, necrotic blood pact powers are up.
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Im fine with you using any of mine, but you may want to ask permission for any that aren't, all i did was search and put all the links i found in one place.

Coincidentally, some of these classes might have invocations you may like. Again you'll likely need permission to use and such.
Mindscourge Invocations
Ebon Initiate Invocations
Servitor Invocations

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Alright, so my computer is at the repair shop and I won't be able to do any work on the warlock until it comes back. Hopefully this won't take more than a week. Thanks for the patience.
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Alright, I've got my laptop back with minimal loss to my data, which means I'm back in the game. I posted up the blood powers for Aberrant, Draconic, and Entropic. Many of these, particularly the draconic, are the same as the sorcerer bloodline abilities. I'm still sorting through all the invocations and building up new ones, but I should have the rest of the blood powers up soon and new invocations after that.
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Right, so due to life getting rather busy recently, I haven't really had much time to work on this project, however, I am back now, at least partially, and I'm posting up some much-needed updates to my Warlock. For today I have the Daemonic pact powers, but I should have much more ready for posting soon. ^_^

Edit: There we go, last of the blood pact powers are up. Now for invocations!
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Alright!
So all of the invocations which have been printed by WotC have been updated and labeled according to their pacts. Took me long enough. (Sorry!) I have begun posting up my original invocations, and I will post up anything which was offered to me by playgrounders, marked with appropriate pacts obviously.

Here is where I'm really going to need help, however. I need to determine which invocations should be given as free invocations with each pact. Once that has been determined with at least some degree of balance, this alternate class will be ready for playtesting.

Thanks everyone so much for having patience with me as I work on this project. I hope to add upwards of 100+ invocations for this update. Please, send me feedback! I hope this class provides much fun for sorcerers who want to be a little different. ^_^
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What if, instead of a whole new specialised class, you make an Archetype for the base warlock class? And of course within that archetype you can have all kinds of nifty newness.
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Well, partially because I've already done the legwork for it now, so there's not a good enough reason at this point to scrap all of my work, but mostly because I started out doing just that, and I found that, just as Paizo discovered with the samurai and the antipaladin, the changes inherent in this archetype were so all-consuming that the class had very little of the original left. Thus, they created alternate classes: classes which replaced an existing class outright without allowing for cross classing between the new class and the one it was meant to replace.
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Right, so after a long hiatus due to various factors, I'm back with more of my Warlock updates. I will have this class ready for playtesting very soon so anyone who is interested, please feel free to use this class for your own games and put your feedback here. Thanks to anyone who has been patient enough to keep checking this out and to any who decide to offer such feedback!
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