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Old 03-30-2012, 06:15 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1351
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And technically Ace. Because I saw . . . I think it was 'Remembrance of the Daleks' at the Oxford UKitP mini-meetup. It was the serial where Ace beats up a Dalek with a baseball bat.
Yes, it was Remembrance of the daleks, and to be fair it was a time-lord empowered baseball bat.
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Says it all really, poor old Harry! (Ian Marter who played him did go on to write a substantial number of the novelisations, though).

Definitely Mel as Worst Companion Ever. Even if you're not fond of Billie Piper, Rose comes nowhere near in terms of badness. It doesn't help that the stories she appears in are pretty weak as well, but it's really Bonnie Langford's "eyes, teeth and jazz-hands" stage school "acting" that does it for me. She might have been acceptable as Violet-Elizabeth Bott when she was a kid, but ... no. Just no.

Dorothea "Dodo" Caplet (from the Hartnell period) is a bit of a dud too, mainly because the series producers couldn't decide if she was supposed to have a regional accent or not, so she veers from Cheery Cockerney to Manc to RP within a single episode. Bit like watching Frasier.
Agreed Mel is Worst Companion Ever. Though Adric and Thurlow were no great shakes either. Hmm Peter Davidson got a rough deal when it came to Comapanions didn't he
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:38 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1353
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Oh my.
I just finished a ten minute rant for my latest review. I have a problem. Not going to delete it though. Thing is, I'm three and a half minutes into the episode.
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Oh my.
I just finished a ten minute rant for my latest review. I have a problem. Not going to delete it though. Thing is, I'm three and a half minutes into the episode.
... wow.

For Part 3 of The Invasion? I don't remember anything particularly obnoxious in there (no more so than the first two, at least), so now I'm super-curious.
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Oh my.
I just finished a ten minute rant for my latest review. I have a problem. Not going to delete it though. Thing is, I'm three and a half minutes into the episode.
YES.
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... wow.

For Part 3 of The Invasion? I don't remember anything particularly obnoxious in there (no more so than the first two, at least), so now I'm super-curious.
Make that two rants. At six odd minutes into the episode. (I was distracted when the Playground became a paddock of ponies last night)
Well, the second rant is more 'ranting about awesome'.

LET IT BE KNOWN THAT: whenever Curly calls something a rant it means going on at length about a certain topic, be it in a positive or negative or confused fashion.

Also, remember, I'm Curly. The things I'm interested in are not necessarily the things most people pay attention to.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:56 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1357
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Continuing my plan to post what I think to be the highlights of every season of Doctor Who, old and new.

For each series I choose 2 or 3 of what I consider to be the best stories, and a selection of also-rans. "Stories" may comprise any number of actual episodes (somewhere between 1-14, typically 4 or 6). Older Who is nearly always episodic, with NuWho most episodes are self-contained. Feel free to expand on my brief comments, agree, disagree etc. This is, after all, purely subjective.

First Doctor

Second Doctor

Third Doctor

Fourth Doctor

Fifth Doctor

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And so on to the Seventh Doctor. This season feels like a transitionary period, and in many ways it is. Evidently the initial attitude was for a light-hearted portrayal of the Doctor, since Sylvester McCoy was best known for more humourous roles, but over his tenure the character was darkened down a lot. Removing the plastic Mel and replacing her with the more nuanced Ace is a start, but for the moment most of the stories in this season have a gimmicky feel. It's not helped by a really weak opening story.

Season Twenty Four (1987)
Seventh Doctor/Mel/Ace

Paradise Towers – There are some great ideas in this one, possibly inspired by JG Ballard's novel "High Rise", that deserve better development (the Kangs, for example), but the execution falls short of the concepts. I find it hard to get enthused by any of the stories that include Mel.

Dragonfire – An interesting villain, and an interesting setting, too, a mix of the mundane (shopping precinct) and the exotic (ice world), even though the creature design is blatantly ripped off Alien. Best bit – Mel leaves. Does have that seemingly pointless (literal) cliffhanger.

Honourable Mentions
Delta and The Bannermen – Quite entertaining, but seems to miss out a section where Delta explains who and what she is to the others – to me it seemed like they all suddenly knew. I really hated the bus/spaceship and the whole holiday camp setting the first time I saw this, but now it doesn't bother me so much. Your mileage may vary depending on your tolerance for whimsy.
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Paradise Towers – There are some great ideas in this one that deserve better development (the Kangs, for example), but the execution falls short of the concepts. I find it hard to get enthused by any of the stories that include Mel.
Paradise Towers has Pex, and Pex is awesome.
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Continuing my plan to post what I think to be the highlights of every season of Doctor Who, old and new.
So, on to the seventh doctor, but no spoiler relating to the sixth... Is this an intentional omission?
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So, on to the seventh doctor, but no spoiler relating to the sixth... Is this an intentional omission?
No, I wasn't deliberately snubbing Colin Baker! Probably a messed up BBcode in there, I'll check.

Edit, yep, my mistake, he'd ended up lumped in with Peter Davison.
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Season Twenty Four (1987)
Seventh Doctor/Mel/Ace
Only two seasons left for classic Who! This is both cool and sad.
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No, I wasn't deliberately snubbing Colin Baker! Probably a messed up BBcode in there, I'll check.

Edit, yep, my mistake, he'd ended up lumped in with Peter Davison.
I wasn't seriously accusing you of snubbing Colin Baker, but I know there are plenty of people who would prefer if he hadn't been one of the doctor's incarnations (or had at least had better writing).
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Mercenary Pen, no, I realise you weren't being serious, which is why I put in the cheeky smiley . I happen to think Colin Baker was quite a good Doctor, but hampered by a terrible costume, some of the weakest scripts in the whole run and lots of behind-the-scenes hassle. I understand his audio dramas are worth catching.

Friv - yeah, that's kind of the feeling I had when I got to this stage watching the episodes.

Androgeus - but Pex is a Cowardy Cutler! Apparently the character was meant to be portrayed by a real muscle-bound actor, but I think it works better with the more normal-sized guy they used, makes the character even more of a fantasist.
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AAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Rapey things! Oh so many rapey implications! No surprises it's Punchy Packer saying "I'd think about it if I were you, Professor. After all, she is a pretty girl."


Yeah. This serial goes from being Totally Awesome to Mummy Keep The Bad Man Away From Me in the most amazingly creepy fashion ever.

Context:
this is being said to the girl's uncle. And Punchy Packer has currently kidnapped his niece.

1968.
Children's edutainment show.
Aired at dinner time.

Bring on the rape.
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test post. Why can't I post my review?

EDIT: I mean, I can post this, but not the review?

DOUBLE EDIT:

Oh come on!

TRIPLE EDIT:

You think 11300 odd words (20 pg in Word on size 11 font) is too long for the post? But I try removing the archive and nothing. Just blank whiteness of nothingess.

Oh well. I'll just post the flipping archive then.

Koorly's Archive of Her Doctor Who Reviews:
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Great. Cue the multiple posts.

And now, to boldly go where many have gone before. [*cue TOS theme (Such a classic introduction)*]

'The Invasion' part 3/8
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'The Invasion' Part 3/8 continued

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EDIT:
Okay, I had rather a lot to say about this episode . . .

Note to self: cut down ranting and raving and Stuffness next time.
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How many characters did that review weigh in at, because if I remember, forum posts cap at 50k characters...
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How many characters did that review weigh in at, because if I remember, forum posts cap at 50k characters...
Honestly?

I have no idea. But my review structure (i.e. the archive and the Whatevers alone total 5825.

Now I really want to find out. Hold please.

70446. Not including the extra stuff like edited information and complaining about not being able to post.
That is rather a lot isn't it? I probably could have split it evenly into two posts, but my usual word software doesn't have a character count so I didn't know how many characters I had until just now.

Still. It was an okay review right? In spite of my endless blather.
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Still. It was an okay review right? In spite of my endless blather.
In spite of? What do you think people read them for?
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In spite of? What do you think people read them for?
I have no idea whatsoever. My wonderfully intelligent and deep analysis of a family sci-fi show?
I sometimes hold the vain hope that people are entertained by them, although that's probably a bit ambitious.
On this thread mostly I think people see them as a way to pass the time until the actual show's on and as a way to promote discussion.

I do know what people don't expect from them:
a way to watch the episode without watching it. Seriously, it's probably quicker to just watch the episode rather than read a review thingy.
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Curly, that is not in the least bit ambitious. I for one am greatly entertained by your reviews.
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Curly, that is not in the least bit ambitious. I for one am greatly entertained by your reviews.
Anything in particular?

Oh, and I was counting my reviews and 'The Invasion' part 4/8 marks my thirty-fifth review. This includes my 'Brief Whole Season Retrospective' and 'Why I Do Not Like Martha/Ten' essay things. But I know I've done a lot of essay/ranty type things, so I might add them if people think it's a good idea. If people suggest them.

Either way I think we can all agree thirty-five is quite a lot!

I feel like I should do something special to celebrate my fiftieth.
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Well, lets see. You're ranting shows a pure undiluted enthusiasm that can be nothing short of infectious. You often show great insight into why some character or aspect of a story just works. But mostly I would say you just brim with so much joy that even when I disagree with you I can't help but smile. I think it distills down to one thing. You have fun doing what you do and I can feel that when I read your reviews.

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Oh, and I was counting my reviews and 'The Invasion' part 4/8 marks my thirty-fifth review. This includes my 'Brief Whole Season Retrospective' and 'Why I Do Not Like Martha/Ten' essay things. But I know I've done a lot of essay/ranty type things, so I might add them if people think it's a good idea. If people suggest them.

Either way I think we can all agree thirty-five is quite a lot!

I feel like I should do something special to celebrate my fiftieth.
It is, and you totally should.
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Well, let's see. Your ranting shows a pure undiluted enthusiasm that can be nothing short of infectious. You often show great insight into why some character or aspect of a story just works. But mostly I would say you just brim with so much joy that even when I disagree with you I can't help but smile. I think it distils down to one thing. You have fun doing what you do and I can feel that when I read your reviews.


Thank you very much for saying that. The one thing I always aspire to when writing these things (and my Dominic Deegan ones) is my enthusiasm (or not) for the subject.
As long as I can convey what I feel with my words, and my experience with the episode I'm happy.
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It is, and you totally should.
Then I'll take suggestions. Most popular/whatever takes my fancy wins. And that means I'll do anything as long as it's Doctor Who related and I can get my hands on it. Which means the books are likely out unless I can buy them cheap on amazon.

One day though I would like to explain in detail just why 'Army of Ghosts'/'Doomsday' turned my severe dislike and apathy towards Rose into sheer undiluted hatred.
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Then I'll take suggestions. Most popular/whatever takes my fancy wins. And that means I'll do anything as long as it's Doctor Who related and I can get my hands on it. Which means the books are likely out unless I can buy them cheap on amazon.

One day though I would like to explain in detail just why 'Army of Ghosts'/'Doomsday' turned my severe dislike and apathy towards Rose into sheer undiluted hatred.
Great review so far. I've just come up for air after reading the first half and think I need a bath and G&BL before immersing myself in the second.
And yeah everything Sanguine said +1 ( he put it better than me so I'll just steal some of his reflected eloquence).

As for the 50th review. I vote for 'The Pyramids of Mars'. Tom Baker (my Doctor Who), Sarah Jane Smith, the height of the 'Gothic horror style' Doctor stories !
English country houses, weird cults, horrible deaths and more !
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Great review so far. I've just come up for air after reading the first half and think I need a bath and G&BL before immersing myself in the second.
G&BL?
If it helps you won't be needing a bath after the second half. Although I do get a little frantic about the Touching.
And sorry about the length. But I had Things to talk about and it became longer than I expected.

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And yeah everything Sanguine said +1 ( he put it better than me so I'll just steal some of his reflected eloquence).

As long as my audience (ooooh, look at me having a readership) is happy. Or entertained. Or driven to enter into discussion. Or a mixture.

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English country houses, weird cults, horrible deaths and more !
Have heard of this serial in a good way? YES!
Tom Baker? One of my favourite Doctors so far, and the Doctor as far as most people are concerned.
Sarah Jane Smith? The Companion.
Gothic horror? Is that not one of my favourite genres of all time and one on which I wrote a special project for in university?
Cults?
Weird deaths?
Country houses and possible period drama?

THESE ARE SOME OF MY FAVOURITE THINGS! (But no schnitzel with noodles please)

GIVE ME THIS STORY!

BUT FIRST TO HELL WITH DOCTOR WHO AND MY REVIEW (TEMPORARILY) BECAUSE THERE IS A QUEEN DOCUMENTARY (FOLLOWED UP BY THEIR 1975 CONCERT) AIRING ON BBC4 RIGHT NOW!

I AM SORRY, BUT THIS IS QUEEN AND QUEEN IS MY GOD. AND IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND I HAVE NEARLY ALL THEIR SONGS FAVOURITED ON YOUTUBE AND (POSSIBLY) ILLEGALLY!

OR SHOULD I MULTITASK DOCTOR WHO, QUEEN AND WATCHING A SPOILER WARNING LP ALL AT ONCE?!
OH THE DRAMA!
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And yeah everything Sanguine said +1 ( he put it better than me so I'll just steal some of his reflected eloquence).
Huh. It's odd being on the other side of this.

Pyramid of Mars sounds like a good suggestion. Though I admit I haven't seen it myself. To Netflix!
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G&BL?
Gin and Bitter Lemon ( goes better than tonic IMHO) but must be Gordon's gin
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Default Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]

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Huh. It's odd being on the other side of this.


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Pyramid of Mars sounds like a good suggestion. Though I admit I haven't seen it myself. To Netflix!
It does sound good from the extreme little I know - that being: everything comicshorse just said.
It's £4.37 (+ £1.26 p&p) second-hand or £6.97 (and free delivery) on amazon. Do I buy? Do I review?
Yes to the first. Yes to the second.

By the way: Netflix? Firstly: was is it? Secondly: worth getting an account?

This serial is in the front running for my 50th episode. People, if your opinion differs, start suggesting so I can buy these DVDs in bulk!
(God I should be spending this money on my university education and here I am spending it on you guys (and me))

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Gin and Bitter Lemon ( goes better than tonic IMHO) but must be Gordon's gin
Ah.
Not really a fan of G&T in most cases. May give G&BL a go one day.

Hee. Look at me multitasking my head off while squeeing (literally) over Queen.
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