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Old 10-07-2012, 04:30 PM   Top  -  End  -  #451
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I am here and may I perhaps suggest something? It wouldn't be much work to change the fluff to add a Healing Corp to the Shinigami Science as well as general Soul Society Clean Up what with their ability to make mod-souls and things of that nature. The Supply Chain aspect could easily be rolled into the Command Division, it even makes sense from a clerical point. Unless you're sold on making a Captain Frozen.
Going to repost this suggestion.

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Alternatively alternatively, change your main Fullbring ability into something dealing with item creation. Ichigo's Fullbring made him back into a Shinigami, (pretty much) so ability like "makes me the hero of my childhood" would be appropriate.
I also suggest this. Considering Ichigo had multiple "items" as well, I think he's the best baseline.
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Then, Valentina the Arrancar. I totally need to decide how she'll start. Maybe she could be loyal to whoever is the leaders of the Hollows. (Whose character's the leader?)
Her special Resurrección powers are "Crushing Jaw" and "Spirit-energy Suppressing Paintbrush". This could be used to punish traitorous Hollows, go on stealth missions, and take care of prisoners of war (if any), and help keep other Arrancares in line.


I think that the Human World is fleshed-out enough to start, so is the Shinigami Society, but (unless I'm mistaken), we players with Hollows need to get together and finish up the organization, before Game Start can happen. (That's the only thing I can see that's missing.)
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I'm still here. Also, I have a question; Who's leading the Arrancar, aka who is my Arrancar loyal to? Also, what division should my Shinigami be in? I'm not sure where he fits.
That would be Eiko's character, Dainichi Nyoria.

We have a wiki now for just that sort of thing.

@AnimeKid: Personally, how I would do it, is make the tie Fullbring cover an arm, and then the the armor itself can shapeshift into the gatling gun or the sword or the shield.

Then in the future, if the Fullbringers get a substantial power upgrade (given Frozen Feet's character this seems a high possibility) he gets something closer to the pitched concept.

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I am here and may I perhaps suggest something? It wouldn't be much work to change the fluff to add a Healing Corp to the Shinigami Science as well as general Soul Society Clean Up what with their ability to make mod-souls and things of that nature. The Supply Chain aspect could easily be rolled into the Command Division, it even makes sense from a clerical point. Unless you're sold on making a Captain Frozen.
I'm personally against this. The medical division comprises a very different role and has enough of a need to be its own division.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #453
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I'm personally against this. The medical division comprises a very different role and has enough of a need to be its own division.
The question is does it though? The question is more...can't we change it? We've already dissected the Gotei 13 for purely immaterial reasons. Do we need a separate Medical Division when we've combined Divisions to a point that we could scrap the 4th Division completely as well?


The SSI already has combat Kido users, why not just roll the Healing units into the Division when most of the healing we've seen in canon is actually Kido itself. Not to mention the SSI also has the technology at this disposal, more so than any other Division. They're the best suited for the task of being medics. It wouldn't change much at all to roll it into the write up as is.


As for the rest, traditionally Command is in charge of Logistics and in my honest opinion it should have been rolled up with it to start with. It's where the brains of the operation are. It just makes sense to combine them. They've got the best view and the knowledge of what needs to go where. They're also in charge of what goes were, or at the very least should be. It shouldn't be left up to a Division that's not in the know about what's going on on the field as often as possible.

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Old 10-07-2012, 05:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #454
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Hey Terry, threw you a PM about my contribution to the starting post.

Also, to anyone and everyone the password to the previously linked wiki is banana, please feel free to update any or all if it with appropriate information.
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The question is does it though? The question is more...can't we change it? We've already dissected the Gotei 13 for purely immaterial reasons. Do we need a separate Medical Division when we've combined Divisions to a point that we could scrap the 4th Division completely as well?


The SSI already has combat Kido users, why not just roll the Healing units into the Division when most of the healing we've seen in canon is actually Kido itself. Not to mention the SSI also has the technology at this disposal, more so than any other Division. They're the best suited for the task of being medics. It wouldn't change much at all to roll it into the write up as is.


As for the rest, traditionally Command is in charge of Logistics and in my honest opinion it should have been rolled up with it to start with. It's where the brains of the operation are. It just makes sense to combine them. They've got the best view and the knowledge of what needs to go where. They're also in charge of what goes were, or at the very least should be. It shouldn't be left up to a Division that's not in the know about what's going on on the field as often as possible.
I think we've trimmed enough fat as is. Of course there's some overlap between the Divisions as there's always been. We could have also condensed the entire Gotei 13 into one Division, but we didn't. IMO, we've already removed more than enough Divisions as is.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:49 PM   Top  -  End  -  #457
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Updated the wiki to include my Mortal, and I'll add in my Shinigami once the Internal Security page is up. Does anyone have a problem with my Arrancar being Fraccion to the Primera?

Also, I like the way the Divisions are set up currently. I feel like if we try to condense it much further we'll end up with divisions with too many responsibilities, and that'll get really confusing really quickly.
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Updated the wiki to include my Mortal, and I'll add in my Shinigami once the Internal Security page is up. Does anyone have a problem with my Arrancar being Fraccion to the Primera?

Also, I like the way the Divisions are set up currently. I feel like if we try to condense it much further we'll end up with divisions with too many responsibilities, and that'll get really confusing really quickly.
Technically we don't have a Primera Espada yet, or any Espada, just the Hollow King.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #459
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Abilities: Hanare can wield it like a normal katana but on command he can fire the "arrow tip" at his target. Although painful, the true power of Kissaki is that someone who is hit by the tip cannot evade Hanre until they are stuck by him. Hanare will always know the marked targets location and all kido done by Hanre will seek the target until deflect or hits.

On the one hand, this ability doesn't look overpowered but the lack of any real in-depth spellings out of what counts as a "strike". Could he, in effect, just keep spamming the "Arrow" attack over and over until the opponent dies? They'd never be able to dodge. Does blocking an attack count against this?

On the other hand, the Absolutism in the writing that makes me leery honestly. "Cannot Evade" is...just to muddled, because there's just so many ways to abuse it. Any power in Free Form that takes away the ability for opponents to choose is generally a bad sort and this does that in spades. They can't hide and they can't dodge or evade an attack unless it's...kido? Why use Kido when you can more or less get a sure kill with your sword?

The lack of clarity I think is what is making me think this is more overpowered than it was intended to be. Unless it's written expressly as it was intended, and then it actually is overpowered. Because then it's a "Save or Suck" ability which is no fun for either party. Because either you're always losing or you're always winning. Neither is a good place to be in.

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Technically we don't have a Primera Espada yet, or any Espada, just the Hollow King.
...huh. Well, should he be an Espada then?

Also, I have to agree with Tebryn. Orzel, I think your characters could be really cool, if they were a bit more fleshed out. Also, certainty in abilities in general should be avoided. That's really the only problem I see. Otherwise, pretty awesome design.
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On the one hand, this ability doesn't look overpowered but the lack of any real in-depth spellings out of what counts as a "strike". Could he, in effect, just keep spamming the "Arrow" attack over and over until the opponent dies? They'd never be able to dodge. Does blocking an attack count against this?

On the other hand, the Absolutism in the writing that makes me leery honestly. "Cannot Evade" is...just to muddled, because there's just so many ways to abuse it. Any power in Free Form that takes away the ability for opponents to choose is generally a bad sort and this does that in spades. They can't hide and they can't dodge or evade an attack unless it's...kido? Why use Kido when you can more or less get a sure kill with your sword?

The lack of clarity I think is what is making me think this is more overpowered than it was intended to be. Unless it's written expressly as it was intended, and then it actually is overpowered. Because then it's a "Save or Suck" ability which is no fun for either party. Because either you're always losing or you're always winning. Neither is a good place to be in.
The homing is limited to ranged attacks fired through the sword: the arrow tip and kido. And those attacks could be deflected by a sword, hit something else, collide with an object, blocked by a shield.

All it really does is prevent wide misses. A Byakurai would curve back toward the target provided it does not hit a tree, pillar, building or the ground. Sucks in a forest but makes fliers into sitting ducks.
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My Espada are not necessarily recruited for their power, but for the loyalty, vision, use to the city, or power.

Any of these traits could get you the position if you feel you would like to have it.
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Posting mostly a summary of my current characters, their completion statuses, and some starting info notes:

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Hakuto Kenzan: Done, posted. Ready to start and will probably be attracted to the first hollow attack. Plot hook easy. I've also thought of a potential Bankai which would never be used but the potential of its existence could be a plot point later.
Sazaki Miko: Done, posted. Only exists as a tool for Cutie Pie.
Takahashi Tanaka: Done, no comments yet so I can probably post him. Background character, mostly a foil for student characters.
Hades: Not posted. Based in mortal world. Spoilerific info has been sent to Frozen Feet, waiting on feedback. Probably will be a background character in the beginning and maybe the source of some hollows if necessary, but as long as we've got plot otherwise going I don't plan on using him until he's needed.

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Kiba: Basically done, posted. I might need to add some more stuff to history to reflect other characters in Soul Society whom he might know. Won't have any trouble with plot hooks with him.

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Victor Vicente: Done, posted. Starting plot already planned out with Frozen Feet.
Cutie Pie: Done. Will be based in mortal world. Leaving possibilities open for development/death.

Potential Character Concepts in mind: I could very easily come up with unseated (or even seated) shinigami officers to help put some ranks in the Divisions. I'm used to playing quite a few characters at once, though I'm trying to avoid making any more characters unless they're needed. I'm also avoiding making any Captain or Vice-Captain levels for obvious power-level related reasons.

I could try again to make an Espada-level arrancar or even someone's Fraccion if they're needed.

I had an idea in mind for a fullbringer, but I won't try to make him unless there's a Fullbring-only faction within the mortal world.
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Tebryn: a good offer, but I got a Vision and must heed it. ;) I'll post my work tomorrow.

And while I appreciate our new wiki, I still want people to post all their characters in our registry too. Eiko, Kasanip, Zarah and others, please do so. terry, when you see this please edit links to the 1st post.

Bob: we can make Him work as a fullbringer, with It being a family heirloom. I'll send details to you later.
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Tebryn: a good offer, but I got a Vision and must heed it. ;) I'll post my work tomorrow.
No problem, was just trying to help keep things moving. I understand the drive however. I am still struggling with wanting to redo Sawada's zanpakuto for the fourth time now that his character has shifted from what I intended with play.

Edit: Tweaked Sawada's shikai and Bankai. Sticking with the molten saw blade and lava theme however.

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Alternatively, it was mentioned a Fullbringer can have multiple Objects of Desire. If you want to have dozen cool items, have as many to Fullbring.

Alternatively alternatively, change your main Fullbring ability into something dealing with item creation. Ichigo's Fullbring made him back into a Shinigami, (pretty much) so ability like "makes me the hero of my childhood" would be apropriate.

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Like this? This was what came to mind when you told me that Frozen. The bolded parts are important to keep in mind. If you think I could word it or write something better please tell me. I really want this version of the character to work.
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'Kay, I'll edit up my stuff into the Wiki.

I'll also make Valentina an Espada. Maybe La Cuarta Espada (Man, I'm so used to spelling "Cuarta" with a Q...), just for fun.


As I on the long and dreary drive home last night, I also had an idea for another human character. Most likely a Quincy, though. I want him to follow a "Prince Charming" motif. In fact, his over-inflated ego will call himself Charming. However, his real name is Housuke (or something like that).

He won't be a student.

He'll be very idealistic about having the Mortal Realm ruled solely by mortals - that all spirits should stay out. Or, in other words, he thinks that only Quincies, Fullbringers, Substitute Shinigami and other mortals should be in the Mortal Realm, and the dead should stay where they belong, be them Hollow or Shinigami.

Here's the catch, though. To stick with the Prince Charming motif, he needs to be able to use bow, shield, and sword (Even if only rarely). The thing is, I remember What's-his-face Ichigo's Quincy Friend saying there's only one Quincy sword. I sadly don't remember the name of it so I can look it up on the BleachWiki. Does anyone know the name of this Quincy Sword?



I like Haroda Tamaki's abilities still. It looks pretty fun!
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #468
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Does anyone know the name of this Quincy Sword?
Seele Schneider. Though really, all a Quincy's bow is is reishi along with their reiryoku given shape. Quincy Weapons=kido=cero on the most basic of levels, it's just how they use it and such. Quincy augment their low Spirit Energy with Spirit Energy from around them in the natural world.

He very well could make a sword from his Quincy Bangle. Or a gun or...really anything for that matter, I think a gun and a sword have even been done in the latest story arc but honestly...I'm not really following it, I just want to see the other Captain's bankai and be done with the series.

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Hey, everyone. I re-formatted my Mortal for this new scenario, and I added a shikai. How does it look?

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Having a Zanpakuto being a mortal heirloom doesn't really make sense given the nature of Zanpakutos. It'd make more sense if his weapon was a Fullbring or something.
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We've done it before. I'll approve anything if its written well enough. Give me some of that dirty, dirty backstory and I'll get back to you.
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We've done it before. I'll approve anything if its written well enough. Give me some of that dirty, dirty backstory and I'll get back to you.
Hmm. I actually haven't read much of the Manga or watched the anime after Aizen was defeated. I don't know much about Fullbringers, so I'm afraid I wouldn't know how to play one. Here, I added a little to the backstory. Does this work?

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Hmm. I actually haven't read much of the Manga or watched the anime after Aizen was defeated. I don't know much about Fullbringers, so I'm afraid I wouldn't know how to play one. Here, I added a little to the backstory. Does this work?

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Couple things

1. We know that family members can have similar Zanpakuto. Look at Isshin and Ichigo for example. This isn't a criticism of your back story, more leading credence to the idea that it isn't actually all that far fetched if canon is to be taken for anything.

2. Getting a Masters in physics is...quite the accomplishment, considering a Masters requires an additional term of school after graduation in both the United States and Japan. So he'd have to have Bachelors of Science Degree in Physics, a four year degree followed by a one to six year Masters degree. A Masters of Physics is on average five years. The graduating age of High School students in the United States is 17-18. He'd have had to do the course work of a nine year college education in...two years. Even if he's a genius, which almost every mortal character seems to be, that's more than a little bit of a stretch. Also even with the best education, you have to go to a University or College to get the B.S. and the Masters. So if he somehow graduated High School at the age of...11-13 this would make sense.

3. There is no 12th Division. It's the Shinigami Science Institute.

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Old 10-09-2012, 01:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #474
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Couple things

1. We know that family members can have similar Zanpakuto. Look at Isshin and Ichigo for example. This isn't a criticism of your back story, more leading credence to the idea that it isn't actually all that far fetched if canon is to be taken for anything.

2. Getting a Masters in physics is...quite the accomplishment, considering a Masters requires an additional term of school after graduation in both the United States and Japan. So he'd have to have Bachelors of Science Degree in Physics, a four year degree followed by a one to six year Masters degree. A Masters of Physics is on average five years. The graduating age of High School students in the United States is 17-18. He'd have had to do the course work of a nine year college education in...two years. Even if he's a genius, which almost every mortal character seems to be, that's more than a little bit of a stretch. Also even with the best education, you have to go to a University or College to get the B.S. and the Masters. So if he somehow graduated High School at the age of...11-13 this would make sense.

3. There is no 12th Division. It's the Shinigami Science Institute.
1. I didn't think it was horribly farfetched, thanks for the example!

2. Yeah, thinking about it, a masters is a bit of a stretch. And the genius-mortal cliche is a little over-played. Just a bachelors, then. He can still teach with a bachelors. And he got it at 23.

3. I'm pretty sure there is one, but the two are pretty much synonymous. I'll change it to avoid confusion.
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Wait, genius mortals are cliche? When did this happen?
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3. I'm pretty sure there is one, but the two are pretty much synonymous. I'll change it to avoid confusion.
Not in our game. There is no Gotei 13. You should probably read the lore.

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Wait, genius mortals are cliche? When did this happen?
I may be miscounting or misremembering, but there's at least four mortal world characters that are described as "Genius". I'm not criticizing as most Shonen Hero's are dumber than a sack of @#$%, I was merely mentioning that even as a genius the number of children who graduate High School at the ages of 11-12 are ridiculously slim.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I present you a person who could kill you with flowers, but doesn't want to because it would be wrong and I should feel bad for thinking about it:

Zheng Li Lin
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Ironically my initial concept for a Medic Captain included a very similar plant-based Zanpakuto.

I'm thinking of making an officer or two, or possibly even an unseated, but the only concepts that come to mind are a pair of twin brothers, one an excellent if gruff doctor and the other a horrible healer but a great coroner, but they're identical so which one is in charge of healing you is a crap shoot.

But this may be just a sign of me playing a certain game too much lately.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present you a person who could kill you with flowers, but doesn't want to because it would be wrong and I should feel bad for thinking about it:
I like him quite a bit. Much hilarity will ensue between the Captain Doctor and the Grand Sorcerer I predict.
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I like him quite a bit. Much hilarity will ensue between the Captain Doctor and the Grand Sorcerer I predict.
That's a him?

(reads over again)

What is your character's gender, Frozen Feet? I can't find a single pronoun to betray it. And I've heard Li used as a male and female name before. Was this an intentional confusion?
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