To be fair to PETA by all accounts there high rates of animal euthinasia is because they are willing to take in animals that other shelters won't and have a habit of euthanising animals for other shelters and vets they think use the "wrong" method.
On the other hand, they would get much futher if they would just focus a little. Swinging wildly from "have a rescue dog not from a breeder!" to "keeping pets is evil" just puts people right off them. If they would stick to the kind of stuff the RSPCA do (Animal shelters, re-homeing, rescue, lobbying for basic animal welfare) and keeped away from the militant vegan "meat is murder" they would get allot more done.
Also, stunts like this make them look just stupid. Ash is a prime example of a good pet owner. How many times dose he get hurt buy his pokimon (Pika shocking him for example) and never once dose he do more than look exasperated? Aslo, I can't belive they focus on the pokiballs when they could have complained about it encoraging dog fighting.
You have a point, but still you have to consider the fact that PETA basically takes in a lot of animals to their shelters, then kills an average of 85% of them. They arent trying to find good homes, they arent trying to care for them, they are basically wiping out as many pets as they can get their hands on, and not just because some are suffering from incurable ailments. There are even attempts to get the peta "shelters" renamed to slaughterhouses, because thats what they really are. Its a place where animals go to die. Calling them animal shelters is pretty much a direct lie as they arent going there to be sheltered, cared for, or to find a home, they are going there to be killed "humanely". Thats not even going into the scandals that have erupted of things like peta employees dropping animal carcasses off by the dozens in nearby shopping lot dumpsters. Whats the matter guys? Run out of places to legitimately store the bodies of all the pets you have killed?
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"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
Mario goes through, on average, 8 worlds of gameplay killing turtles, anthropomorphic mushrooms, moles, and an assortment of other reptiles and they call him out on the tanuki suit? It's not even an actual pelt, it's a magical manifestation that draws from the tanuki of folk-lore rather than having anything to do with the actual animal. Thats why you get it from a golden leaf and can turn into a statue.
Gods these guys are insane.
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Mario goes through, on average, 8 worlds of gameplay killing turtles, anthropomorphic mushrooms, moles, and an assortment of other reptiles and they call him out on the tanuki suit? It's not even an actual pelt, it's a magical manifestation that draws from the tanuki of folk-lore rather than having anything to do with the actual animal. Thats why you get it from a golden leaf and can turn into a statue.
Gods these guys are insane.
CollegeHumor made a pretty good parody video based on exactly that premise. Once I'm off work, I'll try to dig it up, or you can find it yourselves!
It's OK. Animals are allowed to eat other animals. I'm pretty sure they aren't asking lions to become vegetarians.
And therein lies the problem (or at least, the biggest one) I have with PETA's stance - eating other creatures is part of the natural order of things, and helps keep the balance of the world. Humans are not above that order, as much as we would like to think we are.
Also, they're very kingdomist. When I used the word "creatures" above, I don't just mean animals. I mean anything that's alive, including plants, fungi, and microorganisms. What makes animal life so special? Why are we any better than the other organisms that share our world? I would argue that we're not, and assuming we are is just discrimination based on the fact that other animals are more similar to us than the trees and grass and bacteria.
They do realise that trying to feed a cat a vegetarian diet will result in them going blind and slowly dying in agony?
I mean... They're PURE carnivores. The only plant material they regularly consume is a bit of juice from grass to get folate.
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Thing is... even if it is possible to feed cats on plant filler and vitamin pills... why do such a terribly unnatural thing? I thought they were all for the natural order and whatnot?
I'm in agreement. A cat requires meat to live, but it is possible to replace that with a synthetic supplement.
But why? That's not exactly respecting the cat's wishes.
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You saw that episode of south park too? That poor lion!
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Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
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Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
I'm in agreement. A cat requires meat to live, but it is possible to replace that with a synthetic supplement.
But why? That's not exactly respecting the cat's wishes.
I don't think the cat cares, to be honest. It wants food that smells right. As a cat owner I want food that he'll eat and doesn't make him sick. I don't care how synthetic it is.
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Oopps, you are right, my bad. I got them mixed up. Could have sworn it was that vote or die episode.
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Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
I lost all respect for PETA when they openly rejoiced at Steve Irwin's death. I mean, c'mon; Steve did more to help animals than PETA ever did, and he didn't just limit himself to cute, cuddly mammals and birds.
I lost all respect for PETA when they openly rejoiced at Steve Irwin's death. I mean, c'mon; Steve did more to help animals than PETA ever did, and he didn't just limit himself to cute, cuddly mammals and birds.
Wait... wut? Seriously? They rejoiced at the death of Steve Irwin... it is not like I respected them before; but this sinks them even lower on my scale.
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The only problem with that is the acronym "People Eating Tasty Animals" doesn't really apply anymore. Unless you're Hannibal Lecter.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, right? (Just as long as that's what the person wishes to happen to their body.)
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Mario goes through, on average, 8 worlds of gameplay killing turtles, anthropomorphic mushrooms, moles, and an assortment of other reptiles and they call him out on the tanuki suit? It's not even an actual pelt, it's a magical manifestation that draws from the tanuki of folk-lore rather than having anything to do with the actual animal. Thats why you get it from a golden leaf and can turn into a statue.
Gods these guys are insane.
Golden leaf? I have no idea where you're getting that. The Tanooki Suit comes from a little Tanooki Suit icon, just like the Hammer Bros & Frog Suits come from icons that look like their suits. Leaves give you the Raccoon Suit and come in green & brown, depending on the level.
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He doesn't hand forge those batarangs. They are just metal covered bats. This is why they fly so well. He also kills a thousand bats every time his cape gets ripped so he can replace it. And he's forced all the bats out of thier natural cave-home so he can have a secret lab. For testing his knockout gas on the captured bats. And Alfred butchers the animals for Bruce's meals with a rusty cleaver.
The Joker is really just a reasonable animal care director.
Next, Spiderman. He clearly just molests spiders to gain their powers for his own selfish ends.
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I know it's not what they meant, but on the subject of "meatless meals, this made me laugh:
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The flesh of animals who fall into one of the categories of the four D’s—dead, dying, diseased, or disabled—is what often goes into pet food.
I would hope that any canned food being fed to my cat is from a dead animal. Rather than a live one.
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One Food and Drug Administration (FDA) specialist says that the unrendered protein in food may come from heads, feet, viscera, and other animal parts.
This is just stupid. I happily eat animal head, feet and viscera (offal). It's just playing to the squeamishness of people who'll only eat steak and is entirely irrelevant.
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Pet food has also been recalled during mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), outbreaks because of the risk that contaminated meat might have been processed into the food.
Well, indeed. I seem to remember that during the mid-90s BSE scare here, human food was recalled too.
That's just one paragraph. I'd read the rest, but my head is already bleeding from the number of times I've banged it on the desk, and I worry if I read the article any further I'll lose enough brain cells to start agreeing with it.
Next, Spiderman. He clearly just molests spiders to gain their powers for his own selfish ends.
If he hadnt been harassing that spider, it never would have bitten him. Clearly marvel supports animal abuse by telling kids to torture animals because it might grant them super powers.
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Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
While it's 'just' a kid show/game/card game/ media empire, I think PETA may have a point here.
A world where kids capture semi-sentient creatures to fight there battles for them is pretty messed up if you think about it, especially when you consider that, canonically ,there is basically no other source of meat, yet meat is seen eaten.
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While it's 'just' a kid show/game/card game/ media empire, I think PETA may have a point here.
A world where kids capture semi-sentient creatures to fight there battles for them is pretty messed up if you think about it, especially when you consider that, canonically ,there is basically no other source of meat, yet meat is seen eaten.
Any kids' show is messed up, if you really start hitting the moral panic button.
My Little Pony has an entire kingdom so estranged from the natural cycle of things they freak out because things grow on their own in the Evergreen Forest. Oh the horror!
Or how about enslaving AND eating sentient beings in the Flintstones? "Meh, it's a living", goes your steak.
And Donald Duck is a straight-out exhibitionist 'cause he wears no pants, dammit!
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Gods these guys are insane.
