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Beguilers make terrible gishes, they don't have good buffing spells.
I used to think that way too, but then I played in a very restricted game with a Beguiler gish. They have expeditious retreat, mage armor, obscuring mist, blur, mirror image, see invisibility, spider climb, arcane sight, crown of veils, glibness, haste, invisibility, invisibility sphere and nondetection as buffs (up to level 3). Grab bladeweave from advanced learning, spam it.
My character specifically went into Dragon Disciple later. I just used my 3rd level spells over and over. It was pretty fun and I guess it would cut it in any low to mid OP game.
Last edited by ThiagoMartell : 10-31-2012 at 10:45 AM.
I used to think that way too, but then I played in a very restricted game with a Beguiler gish. They have expeditious retreat, mage armor, obscuring mist, blur, mirror image, see invisibility, spider climb, arcane sight, crown of veils, glibness, haste, invisibility, invisibility sphere and nondetection as buffs (up to level). Grab bladeweave from advanced learning, spam it.
How would something like Beguiler 6/Fighter (or Barb, or Ranger) 1/Eldritch Knight 10 fare? EK is the only real gishy prestige class in those sources.
BAB 14/9 at level 17, so I can afford to lose another point over my last 2 levels and still get all the iteratives.
CL 15, so I'm behind one level of spells. Not terrible, I'll still get my 9ths at level 20 if I don't lose any more. Tack on Beguiler levels 7 and 8, and then... hm, what for level 20? Need something with +1 BAB and +1 Spellcasting. Outside these sources you could grab Spellsword or Abjurant Champion or something (though if those were available Eldritch Knight would be kind of moot).
Three-quarters BAB and three-fifths spellcasting, getting neither at level 1? No thanks :)
Well it does get to break the action economy, but yeah, like you said.
I only mentioned it because it is another Gish class from those source, even if not a good one.
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