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Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
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Originally Posted by Inok
Duncfoo, what feat did you take from Frail? Otherwise, I see no problems with Burlow.
I haven't filled that slot yet actually. I was trying to find a good prestige class that fit my theme but haven't been able to yet. I'll fit it with "Extra Music" most likely.
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Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
Are partially charged wands allowed?
..... I have to admit, I'm really tempted to make a melee guy. It's just we already have so many of those (but very few debuffer's/utility people)
Excuse me, I am a tier one caster that has the ability to be both a melee grind machine and a buffer/debuffer, battlefield controller and a skill monkey scout!
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Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
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Originally Posted by Morbis Meh
Excuse me, I am a tier one caster that has the ability to be both a melee grind machine and a buffer/debuffer, battlefield controller and a skill monkey scout!
Ah, alas, I had for one second, but forgotten thy tiers.
And dreamed of a wonderful world.
Where all of us were equal.
A place where samurais could fight,
And truenamers could speak.
But, low and behold, a voice from the sky came forth!
And came forth but a few mortals.
But mortals they were not, but something much, much more.
"I am GOD." The Wizard proclaimed, and brought forth his magic, and the world was broken.
"I am CoDzilla." Said the Cleric, and proceeded to call forth the power of his deity to him. But it soon came, he was but more powerful than his own deity.
"I am nature's wrath!" Proclaimed the Druid, and forth his animal came, who alone bested our best warriors. And even more remarkably, the druid took the form of the might beast, who was more unstoppable than the first.
"I am the mind unleashed!" Called out the Psion. And with his might, the sky's cried flames, and our people burned.
"I am the Forge!" Yelled out the Artificer, and with his talent, he crafted items for all of the above, increasing their powers ten-fold.
And tis, our world broken. Now truenames may no longer name, save for the truly talented few. Samurais are put to shame, and sheath their swords. The lonely fighter drinks, for his weapon is no longer needed. And the Paladin weeps, for his own deity hath forsaken him, and found a new champion.
/end vision.
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Ok so maybe the above was a little over the top. And I wasn't thinking when I made the post before this one. Yes spellcasters = utility.
Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
Ah, alas, I had for one second, but forgotten thy tiers.
And dreamed of a wonderful world.
Where all of us were equal.
A place where samurais could fight,
And truenamers could speak.
But, low and behold, a voice from the sky came forth!
And came forth but a few mortals.
But mortals they were not, but something much, much more.
"I am GOD." The Wizard proclaimed, and brought forth his magic, and the world was broken.
"I am CoDzilla." Said the Cleric, and proceeded to call forth the power of his deity to him. But it soon came, he was but more powerful than his own deity.
"I am nature's wrath!" Proclaimed the Druid, and forth his animal came, who alone bested our best warriors. And even more remarkably, the druid took the form of the might beast, who was more unstoppable than the first.
"I am the mind unleashed!" Called out the Psion. And with his might, the sky's cried flames, and our people burned.
"I am the Forge!" Yelled out the Artificer, and with his talent, he crafted items for all of the above, increasing their powers ten-fold.
And tis, our world broken. Now truenames may no longer name, save for the truly talented few. Samurais are put to shame, and sheath their swords. The lonely fighter drinks, for his weapon is no longer needed. And the Paladin weeps, for his own deity hath forsaken him, and found a new champion.
/end vision.
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Ok so maybe the above was a little over the top. And I wasn't thinking when I made the post before this one. Yes spellcasters = utility.
Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
...... Alright, so after pondering this for way too long, I've decided not to go with the Dragonfire adept. Too many of the abilities I would of used require Fortitude save (Slow, I'm looking at you).
I'll be going with (most likely): Swordsage 5//Totemist 2/Warlock 3 with the Eldritch Claw feat. Pyromaniac!
Or perhaps Warblade 5//Factotum 5, who uses luminous armor (2nd lvl spell, BoED). And is a champion of good....... I guess that means he can't set villages on fire.....
Decisions decisions.
Edit: Forgot to ask with the above, is the unarmed swordsage variant allowed?
Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
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Originally Posted by NekoIncardine
You may have a Bard with you. The Bard will optimize you for you. And it will be delicious.
Alexios licks his lips. "Yes, Bards are delicious, aren't they?" He then smacks himself in the forehead. "Ugh, sorry about that. The Wolf is getting hungry. I wonder where I can get a cow this time of night?"
Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
"I donno, ask the druid." Garland looks around, then leans in close and says, "You will share, right?"
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
Ah, alas, I had for one second, but forgotten thy tiers.
And dreamed of a wonderful world.
Where all of us were equal.
A place where samurais could fight,
And truenamers could speak.
But, low and behold, a voice from the sky came forth!
And came forth but a few mortals.
But mortals they were not, but something much, much more.
"I am GOD." The Wizard proclaimed, and brought forth his magic, and the world was broken.
"I am CoDzilla." Said the Cleric, and proceeded to call forth the power of his deity to him. But it soon came, he was but more powerful than his own deity.
"I am nature's wrath!" Proclaimed the Druid, and forth his animal came, who alone bested our best warriors. And even more remarkably, the druid took the form of the might beast, who was more unstoppable than the first.
"I am the mind unleashed!" Called out the Psion. And with his might, the sky's cried flames, and our people burned.
"I am the Forge!" Yelled out the Artificer, and with his talent, he crafted items for all of the above, increasing their powers ten-fold.
And tis, our world broken. Now truenames may no longer name, save for the truly talented few. Samurais are put to shame, and sheath their swords. The lonely fighter drinks, for his weapon is no longer needed. And the Paladin weeps, for his own deity hath forsaken him, and found a new champion.
Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
Nearly done with my character sheet - gotta stat out my Psicrystal still. (Or switch to another feat for lower optimization. Still not sure which yet.)
Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
Before I get back to work...
Rina has an unusual element in that she is mute - never in her lifetime has she been able to speak. She can communicate via telepathy (a trick she's picked up recently), but the way I see it, she has never had a voice of her own.
Rather than the usual color switch to represent a specific character's spoken words, I thought a font swap might be appropriate, representing that her 'voice' doesn't have the same natural sense of tone. Related, when responding via telepathic communication rather than vocally, others might use the same font swap but with their color.
Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
I've got about 4 hours to do nothing but craft my responss to you guys, so you will be getting an update in just a bit.
However, this deserves it's own respose.
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
Ah, alas, I had for one second, but forgotten thy tiers.
And dreamed of a wonderful world.
Where all of us were equal.
A place where samurais could fight,
And truenamers could speak.
But, low and behold, a voice from the sky came forth!
And came forth but a few mortals.
But mortals they were not, but something much, much more.
"I am GOD." The Wizard proclaimed, and brought forth his magic, and the world was broken.
"I am CoDzilla." Said the Cleric, and proceeded to call forth the power of his deity to him. But it soon came, he was but more powerful than his own deity.
"I am nature's wrath!" Proclaimed the Druid, and forth his animal came, who alone bested our best warriors. And even more remarkably, the druid took the form of the might beast, who was more unstoppable than the first.
"I am the mind unleashed!" Called out the Psion. And with his might, the sky's cried flames, and our people burned.
"I am the Forge!" Yelled out the Artificer, and with his talent, he crafted items for all of the above, increasing their powers ten-fold.
And tis, our world broken. Now truenames may no longer name, save for the truly talented few. Samurais are put to shame, and sheath their swords. The lonely fighter drinks, for his weapon is no longer needed. And the Paladin weeps, for his own deity hath forsaken him, and found a new champion.
My Lilliend is here, last page about two thirds or so of the way down.
I'll admit I'm not all too eager for it, if you don't mind me saying. Part of it is just that, baring (hopefully) minor tweaks here or there, I'm not too interested in letting homebrew in. The other part of it is that it seems entirely stronger than a straight bard in every single way possible, before building it to be even better. Then again, most of the applications are incredible well optimized.
Considering how much I am being lenient on toward stuff that's already in books, I won't give this a flat out no if your heart is set on it. If you insist on the Liliend, I'll give it another look over, and have Gareth input as well. But if you aren't, that'd admittedly be preferable for me.
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Originally Posted by tonberrian
Alright, you know how builds evolve? Yeah. I'm unhappy with my spiked chain schtick.
Anyways. I was wondering if I could get Fire Elf approved, and if that would work with Hit-and-Run Tactics. Technically, the acf doesn't specify that only drow can use it, but I've seen rulings both ways.
Also, I was hoping to get Backstab (Dragon #340), Educated (Eberron Campaign Setting 52), and Knowledge Devotion (Complete Champion 60).
Knowledge Devotion, Fire Elfs, and Educated are a go. Backstab, I can't find with my virus-weakened googlefu. Care to assist? If not, I'll have to say no. And the ACF... you're technically correct; it doesn't specify that only Drow can use it, while other such Acfs do seem to make that distinction apparent. Make a note in your backstory about being trained by or fighting a drow, and enjoy your Dex Sad Fighter.
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Originally Posted by tonberrian
Nah, I'm kind of hooked on short swords now. I just felt it would be awkward switching to Spiked Chains after 4 levels of adventuring. Also, I can't quite get my head around what it looks like, and short sword murderhobo I can.
I can. You'd look like something out of God of War.
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Originally Posted by NekoIncardine
I have three new asks off the top of my head (EDIT) and am now editing in more.
You ask a lot.
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Originally Posted by NekoIncardine
Spell Compendium spells as a class - I'll be referring to those a LOT.
Complete Psionic powers as a group - there's quite a few nice ones in there.
Are you just asking if you could access the spells and powers from these books? If so, yeah. If not, care to explain?
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Originally Posted by NekoIncardine
Amethyst Burst from Dragon Magic. Basically it's Psionic Fireball, with worse damage progression but higher area of effect (and untyped damage). Possibly refluffed to be some kind of force burst?
The description reminds me of Iron Man's Unibeam... Doesn't particularly bother me.
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Originally Posted by NekoIncardine
The generic rules for adding basic properties like +2 to attributes to existing magic items from Magic Item Compendium
Only if you can help me find said rules. Though hopefully no weird stacking of stuff is occurring...
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Originally Posted by NekoIncardine
(LOOOOOOONG term) the Vest of Legends from Dungeon Master's Guide II
The nonmagical items from Dungeonscape
No objections.
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Originally Posted by NekoIncardine
Common pencils (or early lead-holders - i.e. bits of skin wrapped around mined graphite or lead) as a writing tool, and pencils and parchment as an abstract supply (10 GP for a basic supply). I can link Wikipedia articles if need be, but basically, they existed in the historical-basis timeframe and would be more practical for dungeoneering than ink.
I'm not particularly opposed to it, but I don't see why; I'm not going to punish you for choosing to use quills or Inkpens and ink...
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Originally Posted by NekoIncardine
Also - what are the rules on retraining of spell/power/feat/etc. selections? I am considering taking the SRD power Psychic Reformation, but if most of its effects can be replicated on level up without the XP cost (as I see in many games), then it may not be worth it. (I also have to consider things like retraining Charm Person when I get it as a bonus power with Thrallherd and such - so I have it earlier but swap into a new power when I'd get it as a class bonus.)
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He mentioned not likely in his wall of answers, so Psychic Reformation would probably be a good idea.
Yay for me being clear enough for once that someone else can answer for me!
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Originally Posted by Dreamshifter
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Well, I'm just going to go ahead and apologize for Alexios' background. It's more than a little long for a skirt background, and (likely as a result of the other thing distracting me right now) ended up in a fully narrative style. That said, I think I like him. He should be fun to play...
The only issue with a big backstory is that I'll probably be more focused on the dungeon and the adventuring than too much narrative in story. Which means it's not really much of a problem at all, then.
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Originally Posted by Blue Lantern
Ok, now I think it's me who doesn't understand what you are saying, the flaw affects the character as whole not just one side.
What I was asking is you would approve the progression in the following levels as follows.
Etc... to recover the caster level lost from Swiftblade, I understand if not allowed because it IS a bit shady, I ask merely because I see a lot of optimization around and the only thing I've got to keep up is MORE POOWER...
Sorry for making a mistake, where you see I said Flaw a second time, I meant LA.
And no, that wouldn't at all upgrade your caster level, it would just give you a second, and much more minor, pool of sorcerer casting. Sorry.
I'll probably be confirming the more sedated characters first over the most powerful ones... though that assumes the rest of the candidates get enough sheets up to make me need to choose.
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Originally Posted by Zman
Inattentive is a flaw, -4 to Spot and Listen. I hadnt factored it in yet as I hadn't worked on skills yet.
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Originally Posted by TriumphantHero
Speed is usually 40', marked it down on the sheet. However, a stance and a boost I have increase it, so 60' is possible. Poor Reflexes is -3, but I'm adding Int to reflex saves from Battle Clarity for a net -2. Shaky is -2 to ranged attack rolls, couldn't exactly afford a bow to start out with so didn't really have a place to apply it.
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Originally Posted by Duncfoo
I haven't filled that slot yet actually. I was trying to find a good prestige class that fit my theme but haven't been able to yet. I'll fit it with "Extra Music" most likely.
I see. Carry on, then.
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
Are partially charged wands allowed?
That depends. Remind me; what's a partially charged wand?
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
I'm also now realizing that the best abilities with a dragonfire adept require fortitude saves...... Which undead are immune to....
While a lot of the mooks in the first part will be undead, they'll mainly be the type that you Great Cleave through. And the later levels (I'm expecting 11 "Levels" total, including the Prologue Area) will be filled with all sorts of monsters. Your first enemies probably won't even be undead, actually.
So yeah, don't be so discouraged.
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
...... Alright, so after pondering this for way too long, I've decided not to go with the Dragonfire adept. Too many of the abilities I would of used require Fortitude save (Slow, I'm looking at you).
Again, lots of enemies that aren't blatantly immune to x save should be available for you to fight. Keep that in mind.
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
I'll be going with (most likely): Swordsage 5//Totemist 2/Warlock 3 with the Eldritch Claw feat. Pyromaniac!
We've already got one Pyro, though... plus, when I drag the entire party underwater, ya'll 'll be in trouble.
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
Or perhaps Warblade 5//Factotum 5, who uses luminous armor (2nd lvl spell, BoED). And is a champion of good....... I guess that means he can't set villages on fire.....
Decisions decisions.
Hey, find Bad Villages, go inside and remove any civilians, and then set it on fire. That works!
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Originally Posted by bindin garoth
Edit: Forgot to ask with the above, is the unarmed swordsage variant allowed?
Unarmed Swordsage? What are you talking about? Other than the Spell Variant, the only variant I know is the Armored Swordsage Variant, that sacrifices Improved Unarmed Strike and Unarmed Strike Damage for Armor Proficiency... seems like a Min-Maxy move to me.
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Originally Posted by Dreamshifter
Alexios licks his lips. "Yes, Bards are delicious, aren't they?" He then smacks himself in the forehead. "Ugh, sorry about that. The Wolf is getting hungry. I wonder where I can get a cow this time of night?"
.... What exactly did you mean when you made that statement, about the deliciousness of Bards? Because I apparently might have misplaced my capitulum deep within the sulcation.
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Originally Posted by NekoIncardine
Before I get back to work...
Rina has an unusual element in that she is mute - never in her lifetime has she been able to speak. She can communicate via telepathy (a trick she's picked up recently), but the way I see it, she has never had a voice of her own.
Rather than the usual color switch to represent a specific character's spoken words, I thought a font swap might be appropriate, representing that her 'voice' doesn't have the same natural sense of tone. Related, when responding via telepathic communication rather than vocally, others might use the same font swap but with their color.
Try not to mess with too many people, making them think they're crazy when it's just you popping into their heads...
But seriously, sounds good to me.
Please let me know if I've still left lingering questions and mistakes available...
I'd also like a quick check in to determine who is still interested. I notice some of us haven't posted in a bit, and there are several who have and who are lurking and such.
Please respond to this post, filling out the following information.
Player Name, Character Name (imposed within the URL of the Character Sheet), Character Age, Character Gender, Character Alignment, Character Race, and Character Build.
Bonus points if you do so in the following format. Not just because such a format would be easier to copy.
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Character Name (link your sheet)
Age
Gender
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Race
Build
INoKnowNames
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Newbie1/Gamer3/Dm1//Nerd 3/Jock 2
This is mainly a brief test to see who all is still awake and trying to get in. This is not also mainly a way for me to lazily edit posts together to make the table again with minimal work on my part.
Last edited by INoKnowNames : 11-20-2012 at 02:46 PM.
Huh. Your sheet says you're Neutral Good, while your Table Submission says Chaotic Neutral. Not that I particularly mind that.
However, I was prefering more "LA4/Sorc1//Wiz3/Fight1/SS1" than "Ultimate Magus" this time. And maybe thtat part to be as clear as possible for when I'm checking who gets in at 3 am, groggy and unfocused on going to work.
Still, you posted first, and immediately used the table template, so you get respect.
Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
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I just copied the classes from sheets...
Well way to just do -everyone-'s homework, Lexin! Wanna play all their characters, too!?! I wasn't sure who might have changed what so far as well. I know I've gone through several sheets at different times having not properly edited changes.
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Originally Posted by Zman
Sorry, meant Neutral Good.
Is all buena.
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Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
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Originally Posted by INoKnowNames
Well way to just do -everyone-'s homework, Lexin! Wanna play all their characters, too!?! I wasn't sure who might have changed what so far as well. I know I've gone through several sheets at different times having not properly edited changes.
Yay! Can I? Really?!?
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Using the Spontaneous Divine Casting variant from Unearthed Arcana, going for Radiant Servant of Pelor as a buff/debuff/healing guy.
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Well that, or a really high will save.... or just be an elan and have a huge store of pop
Alternatively, you could have a high initiative, wait for him to dominate everyone, and then dominate him! And presto, you now own everyone's character!
Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
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Originally Posted by INoKnowNames
Sorry for making a mistake, where you see I said Flaw a second time, I meant LA.
And no, that wouldn't at all upgrade your caster level, it would just give you a second, and much more minor, pool of sorcerer casting. Sorry.
I'll probably be confirming the more sedated characters first over the most powerful ones... though that assumes the rest of the candidates get enough sheets up to make me need to choose.
I am more than fine with that, also I don't think my character is the most powerful sound at all
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Re: 3(.5)e "Dungeon-vania" Gestalt! (Closed to New Interest)
That's not a natural thing for him to do, at all. Thanks bindin. 
