World War Z (the film)

[Tebryn]

Originally Posted by Brother Oni

*Cough*

What? PSY isn't a nobody. He's working with Ban Ki Moon. Sure, he's an entertainer but his talk is about success and music and a ton of other things he actually knows about. So...ya. Not sure what your point is. This is exactly the kind of talk college age kids need.

[Brother Oni]

Originally Posted by Tebryn

What? PSY isn't a nobody. He's working with Ban Ki Moon. Sure, he's an entertainer but his talk is about success and music and a ton of other things he actually knows about. So...ya. Not sure what your point is. This is exactly the kind of talk college age kids need.

I was attempting to refute your implication that universities only permitted well learned and academically renowned people to give talks.

Not to belittle Psy's accomplishments (I agree that he's exactly the sort of person that uni students, especially English ones, would go listen to), but his biggest success to date has been what was originally intended to be a novelty record.
I don't remember Los del Rio, best known for the Macarena, going on college speaking tours.

[Tebryn]

That wasn't my point though. My point was that they don't let every Jim, Bob and Harry give talks at University. You have to have accomplished something to get up and talk to potentially tens of thousands of students.

[Hawriel]

Just watched the trailer. It just did not make sense to me. Zombie land and dawn of the dead had viral super human rabies plague zombies and it made sense. Particularly with the populations of cities and what not. This is just a bunch of CGI created zombies that kept on multiplying with no rime or reason.

Now if this movie was about super mutant army ants the size of people this would totally make sense. Think Them but with bigger ants.

Granted I'm just going on the images I saw in the trailer. Ants would be cool and I can see how the movie would play out. This is just crap.

[Killer Angel]

Originally Posted by Hawriel

Just watched the trailer. It just did not make sense to me. Zombie land and dawn of the dead had viral super human rabies plague zombies and it made sense. Particularly with the populations of cities and what not. This is just a bunch of CGI created zombies that kept on multiplying with no rime or reason.

Now if this movie was about super mutant army ants the size of people this would totally make sense.

mmm...
Maybe WWZ stands for WWantZ? and the CGI is made by Dreamworks?

[Ceridan]

Originally Posted by Killer Angel

Your first objection:
Zombies are immune to a good amount of effect of tank's fire. It is explained why as part of the setting. In media, some zombies are fast, some are intellingent, some got superpowers. Brooks' ones are particulary resilient to bombing. It's simple as that.
BTW, the previous version of the official NATO cal, received criticism for the poor performance of the bullet on target, especially the first-shot kill rate when the muzzle velocity of the firearms used and the downrange bullet deceleration didn't achieve the minimally required terminal velocity at the target to cause fragmentation. This failure also occured when the bullets passed through only minimal tissue, such as a limb or the torso of a small individual (or a zombie with poor muscolar tissue, I would add), as the bullet may exit the body before it has a chance to yaw and fragment.

Your second objection:
Military with problems with ammo, facing great number of enemies? It already happened.

Possible, but you seem to have willfully forgotten Rouke Drift which happened on the heel of that battle. A company of the same British Regiment that had been decimated held off the same Zulu army by itself form a fortified position.

So, all the US army would need would be to overturn a number of cars, or just use their tanks, to block the streets. Ammo can be flown in by air and all the grunts have to do is shoot.

[The Glyphstone]

Originally Posted by Ceridan

Possible, but you seem to have willfully forgotten Rouke Drift which happened on the heel of that battle. A company of the same British Regiment that had been decimated held off the same Zulu army by itself form a fortified position.

So, all the US army would need would be to overturn a number of cars, or just use their tanks, to block the streets. Ammo can be flown in by air and all the grunts have to do is shoot.

Isn't that the one they made the movie about?

[Ceridan]

Originally Posted by The Glyphstone

Isn't that the one they made the movie about?

They made a movie about each.

Rorke's Drift: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058777/
Isandlwana: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080180/

[The Glyphstone]

Originally Posted by Ceridan

They made a movie about each.

Rorke's Drift: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058777/
Isandlwana: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080180/

Huh. I'd only ever seen Zulu, I didn't know Zulu Dawn existed.

[Killer Angel]

Originally Posted by Ceridan

Possible, but you seem to have willfully forgotten Rouke Drift which happened on the heel of that battle. A company of the same British Regiment that had been decimated held off the same Zulu army by itself form a fortified position.

So, all the US army would need would be to overturn a number of cars, or just use their tanks, to block the streets. Ammo can be flown in by air and all the grunts have to do is shoot.

Well, if truth must be said, I willfully ignored it, because (imo) it was not the point. I’m perfectly aware that we can have many Rorke's Drift… my point was that you can still have one Isandlwana. Yonkers is about Isandlwana, so, from this PoV, is plausible (sort of). But then, we should have plenty of successful Rorke's Drift.

Originally Posted by The Glyphstone

Huh. I'd only ever seen Zulu, I didn't know Zulu Dawn existed.

I recommend it.

EDIT:
Now, a light note.

Originally Posted by Ceridan

A company of the same British Regiment that had been decimated held off the same Zulu army by itself form a fortified position.
So, all the US army would need would be to overturn a number of cars, or just use their tanks, to block the streets.

But they're US army! not English!
to cite Darths and Droids:
If attempting to defend an impossible position with bowmen and knights on foot against Genoese crossbowmen and tens of thousands of armoured, mounted knights, make sure you are heavily outnumbered.
If attempting to repel a force of cavalry and men-at-arms with longbowmen on St Crispin's Day, make sure you are vastly outnumbered.
If defending a hospital stockade against Zulus, make sure you are enormously outnumbered.

If you face an overwhelming force with a paltry number of defenders, make sure the defenders are English!

[Brother Oni]

Originally Posted by Killer Angel

If you face an overwhelming force with a paltry number of defenders, make sure the defenders are English!

Actually that quirk of the British Army was picked up in a German assessment of our forces during WW2 - good quality equipment and training, tenacious in defence, poorly led.

[comicshorse]

"The British soldier can stand up to anything except the British War Office"

George Bernard Shaw

[pita]

The trailer looks stupid. Zombies can't run, their legs would break.

[GloatingSwine]

Well, fresh zombies could run.

But a key element of zombie fiction is that they don't repair damage the way living people do, and what most people forget is that using your muscles to any degree actually damages them (which is why people who do bodybuilding eat lots of protein and build in rest periods to allow their bodies to rebuild damaged muscle), so a zombie which runs around is eventually just going to cripple itself even without any obvious external damage, because the muscle fibers are too torn and useless to do any actual work.

[Killer Angel]

Originally Posted by comicshorse

"The British soldier can stand up to anything except the British War Office"

George Bernard Shaw

BTW, isn't GBS the one who said "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing"?
It's one of the best quotes for all roleplayers!