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2013-06-04, 02:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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so we have the technology to make it?
I am imagining a Gatling gun with wands instead of barrels and the top most wand casting fireball and the bottom most wand gets recharged, spinning fast, shooting 1000 fireballs per minute, or 100 fireballs per round.
can it be done? Or even done slower?
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2013-06-04, 02:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
wands typically have command words or somatic components that must still be done to use them, so most likely not.
you could maybe do it with crossbow bolts though, if the crank also pulls back the strings, would likely require strength checks to use continuously or at all. The lower the strength check needed, the more mechanically efficient it is, but each rotation would do less, and it would likely be heavier from more parts being needed.A single action cannot and should not define a character's alignment. While a single action can have an alignment, a character's alignment is the culmination of all actions taken, and most importantly the purpose and intent for why those actions were taken.
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2013-06-04, 02:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
Would probably work better with something like a Necklace of Fireballs. As those are designed to detonate if the necklace breaks. So just find a way to launch it. Ammunition is destroyed on impact by the rules. So the necklace would shatter, and you'd end up with multiple fireballs going off on the target.
Downside would be that it's more expensive to pull off most likely.Currently sick as a dog and unable to focus properly. Will heal soon.
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2013-06-04, 02:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
Step 1: Make a Colossal Metal "wand barrel".
Step 2: Cast Animate Objects on it+ Permanency.
Step 3: Use Awaken Construct on it (maximized).
Step 4: Create an Ice Assassin of it.
Step 5: Give it max UMD ranks and wand use associated feats.
Step 6: Have it use a Scroll of Shapechange to become a "wand barrel" just small enough to slide a regular wand into.
Step 7: Create an Ice Assassin of it for every barrel that you want (100 in your case).
Step 8: Mount these ice assassins in a frame with a crank.
Step 9: Create a Permanent Telepathic Bond with each Ice Assassin.
Step 10: Load each "barrel" with the wand that you desire (Fireball it appears).
Step 11: Order them to ready an action to use their wand when they are spun past a specific point on the ring/frame.
Step 12: Spin the crank.
Each one will UMD the wand it has with its ready action each round. Be warned that this is quite expensive as you will burn through wands very fast (five minutes of full firing).
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There you go, one totally RAW legal fireball Gatling gun.
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2013-06-04, 02:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
Totally crazy suggestion and very impractical before level 30+ but here goes, what about a gatling ballista that shot staffs of power?
edit:it would be really fun with the old wands of wonder in a gatling crossbow. Imagine every shot released 50 random effects.Last edited by NeoPhoenix0; 2013-06-04 at 03:04 AM.
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2013-06-04, 02:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 02:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 03:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
Not even close to those two in terms of power, but "Clone" is probably my favorite spell of that type. If only because of how frequently it got tossed around in the AD&D and FR canon.
Anyway now that we've got the actual firing mechanic down. What about a way to make it mobile and target things on its own? I'm imagining flying fireball gatling drones enchanted with enough intelligence to be used militarily. See a Great Wyrm Green Dragon coming after your base? Just launch a half dozen of the buggers and watch the fireworks.
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2013-06-04, 03:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 03:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
Make another "frame holder" Ice Assassin/Simulacrum that has Wheels. It's 32 HD give it an IL of 16, have it take Martial Study 3 times for Shadow Hand Maneuvers (maybe the Shadow Jaunt line?) and then have it take Martial Stance for Balance on the Sky. Have it have multiple arms and a crate like area to store reloads in and have it be the thing that the "wand barrels" Telepathic Bonds are with (and have one of your own with the "frame holder".
With it's 18 Int and max skill ranks of +35 it should be more than capable of it's own strategy.
Link multiple such platforms with Telepathic Bonds to one another so that they can coordinate and work together.
You might also want to alternate energy types (use Energy Sub wands) and probably throw some metamagic onto the wands as well.
How would you like to fight a hundred "mailmen" per round? You can do that.
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2013-06-04, 03:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 03:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
A single action cannot and should not define a character's alignment. While a single action can have an alignment, a character's alignment is the culmination of all actions taken, and most importantly the purpose and intent for why those actions were taken.
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2013-06-04, 03:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
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2013-06-04, 03:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 03:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 03:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 03:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
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2013-06-04, 08:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
While not as entertaining and over the top as Tippy's suggestion... Why not use the mechanical trap rules? This sounds almost exactly like the sort of thing it was meant to create. I'm at work, so I can't break it down like I'd want. If anyone wants to see if its feasible, be my guest.
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2013-06-04, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 12:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
A Gatling gun that doesn't need to spin is not a Gatling gun, it's an Organ gun. To make it spin, you'll want your barrels to have an attack with a cooldown or refresh (like a dragon's breath weapon, swordsage's Desert Wind maneuvers, auto-recharge traps, or binder stuff) and then switch our recharging ones for ready ones.
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2013-06-04, 01:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
Hmm, I need to replace the wands of fireball with miniature dragons.
Let's see, Great Wyrm Red is Colossal. Dungeonbred template to make it Gargantuan. Ring of Shrinking for Huge. Augmented Compression to reach medium. Ring of Reduction to get it to small.
Now make an Ice Assassin of that small Great Wyrm Red.
Use an Augmented Compression to drop two more categories down to Fine and make an Ice Assassin of that.
Now you have your template, copy that Fine Great Wyrm Red a hundred or so times (chaos shuffle for optimum breath weapon maximization). Load them into the barrels instead of the wands (and these barrels don't have to be Ice Assassin Animated Objects).
There you go, a dragon ammo Gatling gun. All RAW legal as well. ;)
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2013-06-04, 02:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 02:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 02:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
So once you've got your intelligent flying fireball Gatling gun, there is one last question; how do you avoid them combusting? Because if a wand breaking means it releases all of it's charges, it could lead to a chain reaction with one stray fireball destroying a drone. Unless I've missed something important.
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2013-06-04, 02:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-06-04, 05:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so we have the technology to make it?
Huh... I think mounting multiple spell turrets onto a single platform does this well without ice assassin cheese (although Tippy's method is so much more awesome).
Spell Turrets hold spells and fire them per round, DMG2. Dungeonscape also has complex trap rules.
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2013-06-04, 06:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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