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2017-12-07, 04:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Highest damage using only cantrips...
Inspired by the useless character concept thread, and further to the cantrip caster thread I made ages ago, I thought I'd see how much damage I could do in a round using only cantrips.
Minimum build:
Warlock 2 (AB invocation)/sorcerer 3 (quicken + twin metamagic)
Firebolt Twinned, EB Quickened, 3 sorcery points per round, so it's not sustainable at early levels and expensive at any level.
At level 5: (CHA 16)
2d10 + 2d10 + 2d10+6, plus 3d6 if Hex was cast beforehand,
avg 39 +10.5 (Hex)
At level 11: (CHA 20, hex lock and fire dragon sorcerer)
3d10+5 + 3d10+5 + 3d10+15, plus 3d6 if Hex was precast, plus Curse +16
avg 118.5, +10.5 (Hex) +16 (Curse)
(with 2 setup rounds for Hex and Curse, this is pretty much theory only, I admit)
Alternative:
Assuming any sorcerer, and Hexblade blade pact with great sword, booming blade, and AB
At 6th level, CHA 16
2(2d6+3) +2(1d8) + 2d10+6 (EB), +2d8 for each target that moves
Base Avg 46, + up to additional 18 more for movement, +10.5 if Hex was precast, +9 for Curse
At 11th level, CHA 20, GWM
2(2d6+5+10) +2(2d8) + 3d10+15 (EB)
Avg 93.5, with possible additions of
+27 for movement, + 10.5 for hex, +16 for curse.
(not sure how to add hit chance in here, or crit chance, GWM, or advantage due to, say, devil's sight +darkness. Please correct as necessary)
Can anyone else top this?Last edited by Mjolnirbear; 2017-12-07 at 04:55 AM.
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2017-12-07, 04:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
I don't know
I want to say... 1000d6 + 4d8
Minimal build being Variant Human Warlock 2, Sorcerer 3
Okay
So
Variant Human Spell Sniper
You hit Lv2, take Eldritch Spear and Repelling Blast
Eldritch Blast them off a 500 ft drop Cliff
Then since Eldritch Blast has 600 ft range
Quicken Eldritch Blast them off a second 500 ft drop Cliff
Do I win the contest?Last edited by Talamare; 2017-12-07 at 04:56 AM.
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2017-12-07, 04:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-07, 06:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-07, 06:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
It seems to me that Tempest clerics with their channel divinity for maximum damage on lightning and thunder should have a place somewhere. Get Tunderclap one way or another, and get several targets into the AoE, then maximise the damage. Combine with sorcerer for another casting, maybe Evoker6 for damage even if the save is made.
Edit:Thunderclap goes well with the Spell Sniper feat. It lets you get a lot of targets into the AoE.Last edited by hymer; 2017-12-07 at 06:47 AM.
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2017-12-07, 06:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
2 fighter levels, can add evoker 6 for guaranteed half dmg, sorc 18 or 12 or w/e
Distant Spell + Sword Burst = 4d6*24
Quicken Sword Burst = 4d6*8
Action Surge: Distant Spell + Sword Burst = 4d6*24
Avg dmg/round=784
SS increases range from attack spells only, and Thunderclap has a range of self.
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2017-12-07, 06:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by hymer; 2017-12-07 at 06:40 AM.
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2017-12-07, 06:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-07, 06:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
You cast minor illusion while in a place where people are deciding whenever to fight a war or not in such a way it is a diplomatic incident that definitively triggers the war.
Then the round where the people did hit each other the most is the round where using only one cantrip you dealt the highest damage.Last edited by noob; 2017-12-07 at 07:03 AM.
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2017-12-07, 07:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by hymer; 2017-12-07 at 11:23 AM.
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2017-12-07, 08:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
I take it that using Prestidigitation to make purple worm venom taste/smell like fine wine and then Friends when offering it to someone as a drink doesn't count?
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2017-12-07, 08:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
I haven't actually gone through and confirmed it, but here's a video for 65,000,000 damage from a cantrip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOtEZKfGiH0Insert Clever Signature Here
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2017-12-07, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
Well. That video took way too much time to watch. The voice annoyed me.
So it works. If you have:
À legendary artifact which I highly doubt is real
No need to sleep
Unlimited pigs
And 13 years
(the rest was not actually needed at all)
Assuming you have this, you can do 65 mil damage with a Cantrip.
Don't forget to harvest the unlimited pigs for unlimited bacon and a pig-themed restaurant chain with which to make unlimited money.
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2017-12-07, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
Agreed. I'm not really a fan of Dawnforgedcast, but the video was relevant.
So it works. If you have:
À legendary artifact which I highly doubt is real
No need to sleep
Unlimited pigs
And 13 years
(the rest was not actually needed at all)
Assuming you have this, you can do 65 mil damage with a Cantrip.
Don't forget to harvest the unlimited pigs for unlimited bacon and a pig-themed restaurant chain with which to make unlimited money.Insert Clever Signature Here
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2017-12-07, 09:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
I mean... if we get to use magic items... just an assassin 3/Fighter 2/warlock 2+/Sorcerer X with 30 Charisma (from books) can spit out 24d10+120 in one surprise round
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2017-12-07, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-07, 01:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Highest damage using only cantrips...
English isn't my first language, so I will likely express myself poorly.
Please assume that I'm arguing in good faith, and that I mean no offense to anybody.