Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc

[Willie the Duck]

"The loot just fits" is such a staple of fantasy works, and D&D in particular, that I wouldn't think it needs explaining. Also, its explicitly magic.

Ironically, the reason for resizing magic items is very doylist, since conforming to player characters was the sole reason of introducing it. It just became so integrated with any game setting that we almost take it for granted.

FWIW, it has only been specifically part of D&D since 3rd edition, and many of us that have been playing longer than that do not take it for granted. I'm also not sure I know that many other fantasy works (outside to CRPGs) where such a thing exists.

[GloatingSwine]

Because we've already had magic items fit people they weren't made for. Minmax's armor, various magical doodads picked up in that one alternate reality dungeon whose name I cant recall, etc... "The loot just fits" is such a staple of fantasy works, and D&D in particular, that I wouldn't think it needs explaining. Also, its explicitly magic. A resizing helmet isn't any more unusual than one that lets you control a stone statue.

The loot just fits, but the control helm isn't loot, it's a puzzle component so it doesn't :P

[archon_huskie]

Remember in The Two Towers when Gimli tries on human chain-mail and it is a little tight across the chest (and down past his knees)?

[Draconi Redfir]

what about it?

[Keltest]

what about it?

I assume he's using it as an example of "one size doesn't fit all" in armor, even though by D&D rules Dwarves are medium sized like humans and thus should be able to use the same equipment.

[Vinyadan]

There's an update. https://goblinscomic.com/comic/page-24-2019

[Traab]

Great, thanks for informing us of the

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time dilation torture porn

That adds so much to the story beyond your jigsaw level delight in causing pain to everything in your comic.

[satorian]

The author has said for years that they have had the whole story plotted out for ages. Looking back on the early days on this comic I used to like, I do not believe that for a second.

[BaronOfHell]

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time dilation torture porn

I know this strip is supposed to be taken seriously, but I thought on the same time it also kind of service as a reference to the long time the comic didn't update, hence it really has been that long.

[Maryring]

Plot point? Possibly.

Torture Porn? Definitely.

[Traab]

I know this strip is supposed to be taken seriously, but I thought on the same time it also kind of service as a reference to the long time the comic didn't update, hence it really has been that long.

/Hellsing Abridged "ANDERSON! Its been only two days but it feels like YEARS!"

[Vinyadan]

Great, thanks for informing us of the

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time dilation torture porn

That adds so much to the story beyond your jigsaw level delight in causing pain to everything in your comic.

I'll be frank, the page reads like a parody.

If Thunt goes for gruesome, there might be a wall in front of Minimax that's covered with spikes....

Spikes fueled with never-ending pain derived by the torturing of the trapped souls of those who died by them, of course.

That carry a curse of agonizing undeath for the body of those killed upon them. They are cursed to wander the world screaming in pain from their wounds that never heal. You can tell yourself that the body has no soul, (its been trapped in the spikes) but to see your party member and friend's body screaming in agony as he is forced to continue existing makes it hard to believe.

Guys, if you're going to post such likely spoilers at least use the tags.

Can you really spoiler the most likely outcome?

[Yuki Akuma]

What the absolute **** is wrong with this person?!

[Draconi Redfir]

who, Kore?

A lot of things actually.

[Emperor Time]

The real question is if there is anything right about him, like at all in any possible way. I believe there is nothing that is right about him but who knows if that is still the case by the end of the comic.

[Lvl 2 Expert]

"I won't let go"

*Plays My Heart Will Go On.

[Sholos]

It probably says something that I read the new page, kinda shrugged, and said, "Yeah, seems about right." Just... no emotional impact.

[tomaO2]

I see we got a new fundraiser going on. No word, of course, of the fact that that Temps Fate fundraiser, which still hasn't given us all the pages promised. No word on finally getting those cards that were promised either but lets just give her more money. Excellent way to reward bad behavior. No, I don't care what the reason is short of needing it because someone is dying. When she wanted a house, she put more work into her donation drive than this. This is just a lazy plea for money that comes after a series of fundraising failures.

Hey, how is that animation doing? Haven't heard about it at all. How long ago was it funded? December 23, 2017. So, coming up on two years for FIVE MINUTES? Five freaking minutes. On the brighter side, it seems like updates continue to happen every month or two, and they seem to be working hard on delivering all the perks, so those are points in its favor. The most recent update also gave an early one minute clip of what they plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=swTo1yKL3DA

On the other hand. There is THIS clip, that used no money to create

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN_oBVR-tGA

It's a a LONGER animation that looks BETTER than the new stuff. What are these people doing? How the hell can they not have something to show for all this time and money that doesn't have any improvements at all over their early work?

I just find it unbelievable that this group of professionals can't even manage 5 minutes in two years. I used to watch animations over on Newgrounds, in the early 2000s, that had much more primitive methods to create animations, done by one or two amatures that could have done a better job in half the time. Sadly, this is exactly what I have come to expect from kickstarters. Seriously, when a webcomic author starts a Kickstarters, it should be reserved for funding book printings. That is about the only thing you can consistently get a product. Just be glad that the original fundraiser didn't make it, cause that would have been more money being burned away into another dumb prestige project.

Also, I liked this bit of honesty. "I knew transitioning would be expensive. I've re-adjusted my life to be able to pay for the thousands of dollars that it requires," Thanks for telling us that the reason you FINALLY started doing comics again was to fund your transition. Here I thought it was because she was in a better place mentally. Turns out, it was cause of money. Well, not sure how she survived for so many years not doing this comc when it is her only job (as far as I know), but it seems she finally got in a big enough expense hole to finally start turning out content again.

Pity the content is really not all that good, unless you enjoy gore and suffering. When is the last time we had a decent joke? *Scrolls back* It was when Kin realized that she didn't sign the note telling Minmax that she was "here". Yea, that was pretty amusing. Everything since then has been drama, action and suffering, and I'm getting sick of Kore. He was really bad ass at first but he's constantly losing every fight these days. He's just not catching my attention like he used to. How does he not have any cool magic items, despite being high level, when you can't seem to go anywhere while adventuring without tripping all over them?

[deuterio12]

Oh no, Kore has turned around the corner so the goblins that move faster somehow can't just follow his trail of blood!

Pity the content is really not all that good, unless you enjoy gore and suffering. When is the last time we had a decent joke? *Scrolls back* It was when Kin realized that she didn't sign the note telling Minmax that she was "here". Yea, that was pretty amusing. Everything since then has been drama, action and suffering, and I'm getting sick of Kore. He was really bad ass at first but he's constantly losing every fight these days. He's just not catching my attention like he used to.

Is he? Kore had a perfect winning streak until getting inside the dungeon. Then he fought Kin and one could argue that was more of draw since Kin lured him to fall inside a trap hole.

And then Kore met the goblins again and finally got his ass properly kicked, and that demanded they finding convenient plot golem and Sir Vorpal Kickasso pulling multi-target full heals out of his ass, plus Kore having lost most of his gear after falling in that trap hole.

So Kore has only lost between one or two fights, and the last one he was pretty handicapped (low on gear and the goblins just got a temporary golem).

However this last battle has stretched for months of real time (plus the goblins pulling lots of stuff out their asses) so it does feel like Kore being beaten multiple times.

How does he not have any cool magic items, despite being high level, when you can't seem to go anywhere while adventuring without tripping all over them? [/FONT]

Heh, I already pointed that out myself. Even random guard in Brassmoon had a big magic sword, but Kore needs to waste turns casting magic weapon on his axes.

[Vinyadan]

Nothing is as stealthy as a dwarf paladin in heavy armour with a shining hole in his head, wheezing loudly and bleeding all over the place. It's a houserule.

[Traab]

Be fair, they were pretty distracted what with seeing the spirit of their dead party member desperately trying to give them information they needed. Also, tracking kore is going to be risky. He freaking wiped the floor with them the instant the golem was out of play and now HE can start the ambush since he is in front of them. The only questions we have are, how close to death was kore, how much of that can he heal, and how soon will he strike back? Taking bets on that last one, in any sort of world that makes sense, kore would be in the very next room patching himself up and casting any remaining buffs he has on himself just to finish the job here, THEN he can rest. In THIS world however, I fully expect him to be waiting at the exit to the dungeon in hopes that enough years have passed by that him turning up surprises us briefly. Also letting the GAP level up a bit and be better able to hurt him or have found yet another macguffin that lets them fight him decently well.

[-D-]

Nothing is as stealthy as a dwarf paladin in heavy armour with a shining hole in his head, wheezing loudly and bleeding all over the place. It's a houserule.

Yeah. He's bascially Batman at this point (by that I mean I expect him to climb and ambush Goblins from above).

Plot point? Possibly.

Torture Porn? Definitely.

Failed Joke? Also definitely.

[Quild]

I must admit I missed the joke. Even if the Giant did the same one a few weeks/months ago.

On the left, I read the page itself as a joke. So caricatural.


I also like toma02 analysis. So much truth. I didn't gave a dime to the goblinverse ever so I don't feel concerned, but still.
That being said, you forgot the GAP card game thing.

[Lissou]

Toma did mention the cards. I'm not concerned because I know Elli has been working on them, despite that guy running away with all the money.

I do think she wrote the whole thing early on, because I think if she were to write it now that she's found herself and is happier, there would probably be less mutilation. But I understand sticking to the original vision. She did say that she wants every fight to change at least one character permanently. I do hope Ears gets replacements, but we'll see!

[SaintRidley]

What the absolute **** is wrong with this person?!

who, Kore?

A lot of things actually.

The real question is if there is anything right about him, like at all in any possible way. I believe there is nothing that is right about him but who knows if that is still the case by the end of the comic.

At no point did I read Yuki Akama's question as referring to Kore. I read it as referring to Elli.

[Willie the Duck]

At no point did I read Yuki Akama's question as referring to Kore. I read it as referring to Elli.

I think others did as well and decided to politely answer a different question, rather than get into armchair psychoanalyzing another person we don't actually know that well at a distance.

[Vinyadan]

Be fair, they were pretty distracted what with seeing the spirit of their dead party member desperately trying to give them information they needed. Also, tracking kore is going to be risky. He freaking wiped the floor with them the instant the golem was out of play and now HE can start the ambush since he is in front of them. The only questions we have are, how close to death was kore, how much of that can he heal, and how soon will he strike back? Taking bets on that last one, in any sort of world that makes sense, kore would be in the very next room patching himself up and casting any remaining buffs he has on himself just to finish the job here, THEN he can rest. In THIS world however, I fully expect him to be waiting at the exit to the dungeon in hopes that enough years have passed by that him turning up surprises us briefly. Also letting the GAP level up a bit and be better able to hurt him or have found yet another macguffin that lets them fight him decently well.

The problem for me is that they didn't see Kore stand up and leave. Look at this and the following page: Chief has time to gasp and say "listen to me!", and Kore has already stood up and walked away with heavy, clearly audible steps.

It would have been OK for me if Kore had just used the shock of seeing Chief to make it so that they didn't notice that he was getting up, so that they would be surprised when he attacked them.

But completely stopping combat? Ears even took his helmet off before his round was over! Thaco removes his band, and Vorpal stops flying. They apparently all at once decided that Kore wasn't worth fighting or worrying about. They completely forgot about him.

The only way I could accept this is a magical spell. Kore has cast a mass Suggestion and told them to take (enjoy) Chief. This is why everyone is talking to him. Ears is trying to literally take him by grabbing him (like "Can you take this bag?").

[Draconi Redfir]

I think others did as well and decided to politely answer a different question, rather than get into armchair psychoanalyzing another person we don't actually know that well at a distance.

yeah pretty much. When in a thread about a webcomic, i like to talk about the webcomic, because the webcomic is what i came to the thread (that is about the webcomic) to talk about.

discussion and (frankly quite rude) attacks against the author behind her back are neither needed, wanted, nor required here. If you want to make an "Everything wrong with Ellipsis" thread, please go somewhere else.

[Anteros]

Well, I hope we don't actually need anyone here to be the thread police. Let's just talk about the comic and get along, no?

[Draconi Redfir]

i propose a topic change.

who want's to have a "Design your own Klik stat-block" contest?