2/28/2013 - Update on Thumb
12/31/2012 - There's a New Comic
12/12/2012 - The "Lost" Holiday Ornament (and Child's Play)
11/26/2012 - Leftover OOTS Swag on Sale (+Thumb Report)
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Order of the Stick 889 Get Real
Erfworld 163 The End of Book One
Erfworld Now at Erfworld.com!
RSS Feeds: OOTS

The Duke's Wolf, Part Four by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Three by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Two by Amber E. Scott

The New World, Part 9: Barbarians by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 8: Gnomes by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 7: Names and Cultures by Rich Burlew
Looking for the Gaming Articles?

 



Welcome back! Be sure you have read and understand the Forum Rules.


Go Back   Giant in the Playground Forums > Gaming > Homebrew Design
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read End

Homebrew Design Roll up your sleeves and get working: there's lots of homebrewin' to be done! Post your custom creation for critiques or review those of your peers.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-12-2008, 10:38 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1
Edge
Bugbear in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 
The UK
Gender: Male
Default Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Done shamelessly in the style of Krimm Blackleaf. Tear it apart as you will.

Warpforged Adept
Spoiler

"Feel free to use your body as the anvil of your soul. I will use my sword as an anvil for the world." – Zibarra, Warpforged Adept Master.

For many, the warforged are front-line warriors, mere brutes who swing weapons to crush their foes. This, however, is a gross misunderstanding. A small, secretive school of warforged martial adepts know the full extent of warforged capability and make use of their mechanical precision, multitasking ability and magical nature to alter the world by slicing it at precise angles. This sundering of the world’s geometries of these combat forms allows the warpforged adepts to hone their agility and reactions to unbelievable levels.

HD: d8

Requirements
Race: Warforged
BAB: +6
Skills: Balance 12 ranks, Concentration 12 ranks, Martial Lore 4 ranks.
Feats: Adaptive Style, Weapon Finesse.
Maneuvers: Must know two 5th level strikes and at least one stance of the Diamond Mind discipline.
Special: Must not possess any of the Warforged body feats (Adamantine Body, Mithral Body, etc). However, warforged with the Unarmoured Body feat do qualify.
Must find and study under another Warpforged Adept.

Class Skills: Balance, Climb, Concentration, Craft, Hide, Jump, Listen, Martial Lore, Move Silently, Profession, Sense Motive and Swim.
Skill points per level: 6 + Int modifier.

LevelBase Attack BonusFort SaveRef SaveWill SaveSpecial
1st
+1
+0
+2
+2
As Sharp As The Blade
2nd
+2
+0
+3
+3
Stance of the Striking Petal
3rd
+3
+1
+3
+3
Uncanny Dodge
4th
+4
+1
+4
+4
Evasion
5th
+5
+1
+4
+4
Superior Weapon Finesse
6th
+6
+2
+5
+5
Strike of Geometrical Placement
7th
+7
+2
+5
+5
Improved Uncanny Dodge
8th
+8
+2
+6
+6
Improved Evasion
9th
+9
+3
+6
+6
Mind Frees the Body
10th
+10
+3
+7
+7
Thousand-Blossom Stance

LevelMan. KnownMan. ReadiedStances Known
1st010
2nd100
3rd101
4th000
5th110
6th100
7th000
8th100
9th101
10th010

Weapon and Armour Proficiency: A warpforged adept gains no new weapon or armour proficiencies.

Maneuvers: At 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 8th and 9th levels, you gain knowledge of a new maneuver from the Diamond Mind or Iron Heart disciplines. You must meet a maneuver's prerequisite to learn it. You add your full warforged adept levels to your initiator level to determine your total initiator level and your highest-level maneuvers known.
At 1st, 5th and 10th level, you gain an additional readied maneuver.

Stances Known: At 3rd and 9th levels, you gain knowledge of a new martial stance from the Diamond Mind or Iron Heart disciplines. You must meet the stance’s prerequisites to learn it.

As Sharp As The Blade (Ex): At 1st level, the warpforged adept’s reflexes become uncannily fast, almost instantaneous. The warpforged adept may add her Wisdom modifier to her AC. If the warpforged adept already adds her Wisdom bonus to AC, no further benefit is gained. If the warpforged adept possesses the battle clarity, battle ardour, battle cunning, battle skill or battle mastery class features, those class features now function off her Wisdom modifier, rather than her Intelligence modifier.

Stance of the Striking Petal (Ex): At 2nd level you gain a stance that allows you to speed up your attacks to an incredible degree. You may take a swift action to lose the benefits of your current stance to gain the benefits of this stance. Whilst in this stance, you may add your Wisdom modifier to your melee damage rolls in addition to your Strength (or Dexterity, see Superior Weapon Finesse below) modifier. In addition, whilst in this stance, your base land speed increases by 20ft.

Uncanny Dodge (Ex): At 3rd level, a warpforged adept can react to danger before her senses would normally allow her to do so. She retains her Dexterity bonus to AC (if any) even if she is caught flat-footed or struck by an invisible attacker. However, she still loses her Dexterity bonus to AC if immobilized.
If a warpforged adept already has uncanny dodge from a different class she automatically gains improved uncanny dodge (see below) instead.

Evasion (Ex): At 4th level, a warpforged adept can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If she makes a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, she instead takes no damage. Evasion can be used only if the rogue is wearing light armor or no armor. A helpless warpforged adept does not gain the benefit of evasion.

Superior Weapon Finesse (Ex): At 5th level, you combine your grace with your innate warforged endurance. You may now use Weapon Finesse with a single type of one-handed weapon, other than the rapier. The chosen weapon is also counted as light for the purposes of two-weapon fighting. In addition, you may use your Dexterity modifier on your damage rolls instead of your Strength modifier on any weapon you can use Weapon Finesse with.

Strike of Geometric Placement (Su): At 6th level, you gain a unique strike, much like those granted to martial adepts. You must make a Concentration check as part of this strike. The DC of this check is your target’s AC. You then make a single attack, also as part of the strike. If the Concentration check succeeds, your target counts as flat-footed against your attack. If your attack hits, you may instantly teleport up to 50ft away as a free action. This strike is initiated as a standard action. This strike must be recovered and be readied to use, just like a maneuver. If you cannot recover maneuvers, you cannot recover this strike.

Improved Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A warpforged adept of 7th level or higher can no longer be flanked.
This defence denies rogues the ability to sneak attack the character by flanking her, unless the attacker has at least four more rogue levels than the target has warpforged adept levels.
If a character already has uncanny dodge from a second class, the character automatically gains improved uncanny dodge instead, and the levels from the classes that grant uncanny dodge stack to determine the minimum rogue level required to flank the character.

Improved Evasion (Ex): At 8th level, the warpforged adept gains improved evasion. This ability works like evasion, except that while the warpforged adept still takes no damage on a successful Reflex saving throw against attacks, she henceforth takes only half damage on a failed save. A helpless warpforged adept does not gain the benefit of improved evasion.

Mind Frees the Body (Sp): At 9th level, the freedom of your mind extends to the entirety of your body. Whilst in a Diamond Mind stance, the Stance of the Striking Petal or the Thousand-Blossom Stance (see below), you may use freedom of movement once per encounter as a standard action. The freedom of movement effect lasts as long as you maintain the stance.

Thousand-Blossom Stance (Ex): At 10th level, you achieve a pinnacle of celerity and reaction. You may take a swift action to lose the benefits of your current stance to gain the benefits of this stance. Whilst in this stance, you may Run as a move action, rather than a full-round action. In addition, you may use two swift actions per turn, rather than just one. One of these swift actions may be an immediate action taken in another creature’s turn, as normal, but you are still limited to one immediate action per round.

Last edited by Edge : 09-29-2009 at 12:48 PM.
Edge is offline  
Old 12-12-2008, 10:45 AM   Top  -  End  -  #2
Fan
Titan in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 
Land of Wind and Shade
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Are you TRYING to make chuck E(mbraced) Cheese possible again?
Cause I can already see abuse.
__________________
God Tier John + Zillyhoo by Derjuin
Plushrump ITP!


Fan is offline  
Old 12-12-2008, 10:49 AM   Top  -  End  -  #3
Innis Cabal
Titan in the Playground
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

It actually looks rather balanced.

Really don't see any major abusive parts to it.
__________________
My Current Works


Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpentine View Post
Also I'm pretty sure you're GLaDoS now.
Innis Cabal is offline  
Old 12-12-2008, 10:54 AM   Top  -  End  -  #4
Edge
Bugbear in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 
The UK
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Innis Cabal View Post
It actually looks rather balanced.

Really don't see any major abusive parts to it.
Thank you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FF fanboy View Post
Are you TRYING to make chuck E(mbraced) Cheese possible again?
Cause I can already see abuse.
Care to point out the problems so they can be rectified?

Last edited by Edge : 12-12-2008 at 10:55 AM.
Edge is offline  
Old 12-12-2008, 01:28 PM   Top  -  End  -  #5
PairO'Dice Lost
Firbolg in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
Malsheem, Nessus
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge View Post
Care to point out the problems so they can be rectified?
There are several effects that let you trade speed for other things, like using the extra speed for Jump checks and thus things like Feral Death Blow or Leap Attack that build off Jump, or various charge builds that gain bonuses based on how far you move. He's referring to a particular build (nicknamed Chuck) that uses speed boosts and the Hulking Hurler to kill basically everything from a few miles away.

The particular issue with that is the 10th level ability, because it gives you 4x speed in the stance. However, I don't see that as a big problem--first, it's a capstone ability, so it should be good; second, builds that take advantage of ridiculous speed are relatively rare; and third, taking all 10 levels of this would weaken the Chuck build since you couldn't fit in tons of spell shenanigans. Thus, I'd say you're fine keeping it as it is.

One question about the prerequisites: Is there any particular reason you're disallowing the Mithril Body feat? I can easily see why Psiforged and Adamantine Body are disallowed, but the class seems to be quite similar to the swordsage in concept (fast, precise, devoted to perfection) and those are allowed light armor. I don't see any problems with it, I was just curious.
__________________
Better to DM in Baator than play in Celestia
You can just call me Dice; that's how I roll.

Sig of Holding
Spoiler
PairO'Dice Lost is offline  
Old 12-12-2008, 02:40 PM   Top  -  End  -  #6
Edge
Bugbear in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 
The UK
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PairO'Dice Lost View Post
One question about the prerequisites: Is there any particular reason you're disallowing the Mithril Body feat? I can easily see why Psiforged and Adamantine Body are disallowed, but the class seems to be quite similar to the swordsage in concept (fast, precise, devoted to perfection) and those are allowed light armor. I don't see any problems with it, I was just curious.
The idea was that the class only be open to the most truly nimble and agile of warforged - i.e. those without a maximum Dexterity bonus to AC or an armour check penalty, and it felt odd to make a special exception for one type of body feat.

Thanks for the comments so far.
Edge is offline  
Old 12-12-2008, 10:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #7
Fan
Titan in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 
Land of Wind and Shade
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge View Post
Thank you.



Care to point out the problems so they can be rectified?
Well, as pointed out except that complete Divine Errata makes the Chuck build much weaker, adn the presists no longer work. Thus this acutally makes it viable again.
With the captsone of coruse.
__________________
God Tier John + Zillyhoo by Derjuin
Plushrump ITP!


Fan is offline  
Old 12-12-2008, 10:32 PM   Top  -  End  -  #8
DracoDei
Ettin in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: 
Near Atlanta,GA USA
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Isn't there some sort of Wooden Body feat in an expansion book that actually LOWERS your Natural Armor, but boosts your max dex and/or lowers your armor check penalty? If I am remembering right then that should be allowed for this class.
__________________
Best homebrew:
Grace-Gift - Taking "Defender" to a whole other level.
Falling Anvil Discipline - Loony Slapstick as a Martial Art, Mepholk - Snuggly skunk-people. , Wing Dragon Masters of flight Comment HERE, Organ Undead Mega-Thread, including two new organs!
Filk: 4000 Years(to live) . . . . For everything else see: Full list of Homebrew.
My Homebrew is meant to be used, but, if you do, PLEASE tell me how it goes.
DracoDei is offline  
Old 12-12-2008, 10:34 PM   Top  -  End  -  #9
Fan
Titan in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 
Land of Wind and Shade
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DracoDei View Post
Isn't there some sort of Wooden Body feat in an expansion book that actually LOWERS your Natural Armor, but boosts your max dex and/or lowers your armor check penalty? If I am remembering right then that should be allowed for this class.
Same book. I think its Darkwood body. It gives DR, and removes the AC penalty down to -2... no max dex to my knwoldge.
Also just get rid of armor entirely, and go with moon Ivy should work.
__________________
God Tier John + Zillyhoo by Derjuin
Plushrump ITP!


Fan is offline  
Old 12-13-2008, 07:12 AM   Top  -  End  -  #10
Bluelantern
Barbarian in the Playground
 
DruidGuy
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 
Beyond the madness
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Sorry, I am too distracted with the amazing warforged picture...
__________________
Pround Founder and Master Teamancer of the The Outstanding Banjo Teaparty Club!

Hate-a-miko-mancer of the Miko Anti-fanclub

Avatars Adopted by me:
Spoiler
Bluelantern is offline  
Old 01-07-2009, 12:34 AM   Top  -  End  -  #11
vasharanpaladin
Bugbear in the Playground
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

...So, I can only be a normal warforged (ie, one that HAS a max Dex and armor check penalty) if I want to take this class? As opposed to one that's taken the Unarmored Body feat?
vasharanpaladin is offline  
Old 01-07-2009, 02:58 PM   Top  -  End  -  #12
Edge
Bugbear in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 
The UK
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by vasharanpaladin View Post
...So, I can only be a normal warforged (ie, one that HAS a max Dex and armor check penalty) if I want to take this class? As opposed to one that's taken the Unarmored Body feat?
No. The intent is that any warforged with a feat that improves its composite plating is ineligible for the PrC. A warforged with no body feat or with Unarmoured Body would qualify. I'll go and clarify that.
Edge is offline  
Old 01-07-2009, 09:10 PM   Top  -  End  -  #13
ErrantX
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 
Midwest City, OK
Gender: Male
Default Re: Stealing speed from the world with a sword [PrC, PEACH]

Hmmm... I'm curious.

Why Swim? Why not Tumble? For a class that's based on speed and movement, seems that Tumble might fit better than a dude made of metal and rock learning to dog-paddle.

-X
__________________


I warn you; sometimes I'm mean but I'm always honest.

My Homebrew works:
Libram of Battle: A completely OGL Tome of Battle (20 Disciplines) (WIP, ask if you're interested)
My extended homebrew signature!

Platinum Contributor to the Avatar D20 Project!
ErrantX is offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:41 AM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Usage of this site, including but not limited to making or editing a post or private message or the creation of an account, constitutes acceptance of the Forum Rules.