I'm wondering. Is Stanley's side good or bad? or are both sides evil? it's kind of hard to tell although it looks a bit like Ansom's original side were the good guys. of course they DID have vampires which is kind of a mark against them.
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I'm wondering. Is Stanley's side good or bad? or are both sides evil? it's kind of hard to tell although it looks a bit like Ansom's original side were the good guys. of course they DID have vampires which is kind of a mark against them.
as Jack sparrow would say. "Well that's maddeningly unhelpful"
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you know you're a terrible professor when I can be unaware that I am in a class for 5 weeks due to a scheduling error (which she refused to help me transfer out of), attend 4 classes over the course of the semester, and beat the class average on everything.
"There are things in this world that annoy us. Burn them."
"Mcfarlane shows are like cockroaches. Filthy disgusting and never die."
as Jack sparrow would say. "Well that's maddeningly unhelpful"
And yet it is very accurate. Your question assumes that the story has a clear "Good Guy" and "Bad Guy". Which is odd because, fairly early on, that very question comes up http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0031.html
Now, of course, very few Bad Guys think that they are Bad Guys. But you can't say that the RCC were good guys just because they wore the shiny armor.
Both sides felt they were perfectly justified in their actions. Stanley, because he thought it was the Titan's will that he gather the Arkentools, and Ansom, because he wanted to stop Stanely's rampant agressions/ didn't like a non-royal ruling a nation having taken over from a Royal under questionable circumstances.
now see THAT'S actually helpful and answers the question.
that's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure neither side was supposed to be the side we're supposed to be rooting for because they're good.
also, how do I go to the first written version of the comic on the new site? do I have to go through each thing one at a time?
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you know you're a terrible professor when I can be unaware that I am in a class for 5 weeks due to a scheduling error (which she refused to help me transfer out of), attend 4 classes over the course of the semester, and beat the class average on everything.
"There are things in this world that annoy us. Burn them."
"Mcfarlane shows are like cockroaches. Filthy disgusting and never die."
Going to Erfworld page just takes me to the most recent update.
I'd say Stanley qualifies as "evil." He's a tyrannical man-child. But as he's quick to point out, he's hardly the only guy out there who benefits by using force.
At any rate, Stanley is actually becoming a mite more sympathetic as a character. Deep down, he's beginning to suspect that maybe his destiny wasn't anything terribly special and now he's beginning to feel lonely because of his power.
I mean, it's not like he actually did anything. He just got really, really lucky his entire life. And now he's the leader of a soon-to-be-empire. And he has no idea what to make of it.
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And yet it is very accurate. Your question assumes that the story has a clear "Good Guy" and "Bad Guy". Which is odd because, fairly early on, that very question comes up http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0031.html
Now, of course, very few Bad Guys think that they are Bad Guys. But you can't say that the RCC were good guys just because they wore the shiny armor.
Both sides felt they were perfectly justified in their actions. Stanley, because he thought it was the Titan's will that he gather the Arkentools, and Ansom, because he wanted to stop Stanely's rampant agressions/ didn't like a non-royal ruling a nation having taken over from a Royal under questionable circumstances.
IMO, Erfworld does not appear to have any good guys (other than casters with noncombatant tendencies). All else is open to debate.
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I mean, it's not like he actually did anything. He just got really, really lucky his entire life. And now he's the leader of a soon-to-be-empire. And he has no idea what to make of it.
I'd say managing to work up from being a near-mindless piker who would be obsessed with his weapon through to a warlord is something of an achievement. Then he got lucky, found an arkentool, and went on a rampage of conquest for Saline.
Stanely is meant to be good at combat and intuitive tactics. The fact that he mopped the floor with Caesar should be evidence enough of his skills in combat.
It's strategy and general higher cognitive functions that he's useless at. Which is why if he somehow was made a warlord again, and someone smarter made Overlord, GK would be a hell of a lot more dangerous.
also, how do I go to the first written version of the comic on the new site? do I have to go through each thing one at a time?
To view the archive in the new site, go to the selection box in the left corner, its right under the Rob's plug, and select Book 1, to go to a overall view of the first book, or Summer update, to a overall view of them.
I'd say managing to work up from being a near-mindless piker who would be obsessed with his weapon through to a warlord is something of an achievement. Then he got lucky, found an arkentool, and went on a rampage of conquest for Saline.
Stanely is meant to be good at combat and intuitive tactics. The fact that he mopped the floor with Caesar should be evidence enough of his skills in combat.
It's strategy and general higher cognitive functions that he's useless at. Which is why if he somehow was made a warlord again, and someone smarter made Overlord, GK would be a hell of a lot more dangerous.
Umm. Nothing you say here adds anything to what I've said.
He's always been an infantryman. A soldier. He doesn't have much imagination for anything else. He's good at thumping things and some basic procedure and that's about it. He has prowess in combat, but so what? (Nevermind, that he had an artifact to help beat Caesar.)
He was never meant to be anything more than a mere grunt, so he's mystified by the fact that he's suddenly in a position of power and responsibility. It makes him feel lonely and confused anytime anything gets a little bit weird or boring. He doesn't "get it," although he's more than willing to credit Titanic mandate or his extraordinary luck.
And that's what pisses of most Royals. It's evidently clear that he's a grunt in the wrong place. He just confirms their prejudices, although there are noteworthy exceptions in people like Charlie or Caesar.
Well, according to the last page of the first book, it's quite obvious that Parson considers himself to be on his OWN side, and indeed, it's quite possible that he is. He was able to swear, after all.
And that's what pisses of most Royals. It's evidently clear that he's a grunt in the wrong place. He just confirms their prejudices, although there are noteworthy exceptions in people like Charlie or Caesar.
I don't think that Charlie is a Royal at all. my personal pet theory is that he is another "human player", like Parson.
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Charlie isn't a royal. Plenty of characters have said so.
As for Parson, he is on Gobwin Knobs side. He is magically bound to server Stanley. More importantly, he enjoys advancing Gobwin Knob's side. He enjoys working with some of the casters, although he doesn't really trust Wanda. I don't blame him. Once a traitor, always a traitor.
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I don't think that Charlie is a Royal at all. my personal pet theory is that he is another "human player", like Parson.
And neither is Caesar.
The idea I'm trying to convey is that neither Caesar or Charlie fall in line with Royal stereotypes.
Caesar is just a lowly Count and is heir-designate. He wasn't popped as a Royal, he was appointed to it. He's a minor noble and doesn't have "Royal blood."