Girl Genius VI:Der Pestle in Der Kestle

[Zazu Yen]

RE: Othars Twitter

He never did find the right rock to bang his old recorder on. I wondered how he took it back in time with him anyway...

Seems like it's picking up with him being pulled out of the Imoblix jug, which means that THIS Othar knows nothing of what's happened except what Tarvek has told him. He's never met Agatha, was never imprisoned in Castle Wulfenbach, etc. etc.

Very interesting.

[Tirian]

I was nervous about the whole thing on Wednesday, but it was worth it to see Smurfette Heterodyne.

[Porthos]

Originally Posted by Zazu Yen

RE: Othars Twitter

He never did find the right rock to bang his old recorder on. I wondered how he took it back in time with him anyway...

Seems like it's picking up with him being pulled out of the Imoblix jug, which means that THIS Othar knows nothing of what's happened except what Tarvek has told him. He's never met Agatha, was never imprisoned in Castle Wulfenbach, etc. etc.

Very interesting.

He's already met Agatha.

Which puts his internal timeline either some time after being thrown off the escaping blimp or post-Circus Days.

That's presuming, of course, that Othar's Twitter is supposed to be internally consistant and isn't just a Meandering Baron Munchausen type story.

[Felius]

Originally Posted by datalaughing

Sneaky gate is open.

Spoiler

Still shocked that the whole miraculous healing powers of the water thing hasn't occurred to anyone as a possibility.

Well, it does have terrible odds of making a miraculous cure, instead of just causing a horrible death.

So instead they will use the OTHER definitively suicidal method, and will take it to the theoretical limits for even more chances of horrible death.

[BRC]

Originally Posted by Felius

Well, it does have terrible odds of making a miraculous cure, instead of just causing a horrible death.

So instead they will use the OTHER definitively suicidal method, and will take it to the theoretical limits for even more chances of horrible death.

No, they will COMBINE the cures.

[tiaxrulesall]

Ha, the last panel of fridays comic is hilarious. Double entendre anyone?

Oh you guys are talking about smurfs cause shes turning blue, gotcha...

[Porthos]

Originally Posted by tiaxrulesall

Oh you guys are talking about smurfs cause shes turning blue, gotcha...

Someone over one at the LJ discussion area even went the extra mile on this idea.

Behold, Smurfatha.

It's almost scary how much that works.

[Tirian]

Originally Posted by Porthos

It's almost scary how much that works.

Of course, she's ... ahem ... all grown up, isn't she.

Now I've got a hankering to see Phil draw a scene from Scooby Doo to see Daphne and Velma in corsets. I'll be in my bunk.

[Felius]

Originally Posted by BRC

No, they will COMBINE the cures.

No! Are you crazy?!

[Gez]

Agatha will link herself up with Gil and Tarvek. It's like the mad medical science equivalent of a threesome.

Originally Posted by Porthos

It's almost scary how much that works.

What's scary is the amount of jpeg artifacts.

[Mauve Shirt]

They'll end up using Gil's Heterodyne device I'm sure of it.

[T-O-E]

Originally Posted by slayerx

And we are talking about a family whose first member decided to drink from a spring that was almost guaranteed to kill him... Ya, that little risk of death does exactly hold back the raving mad scientist...

Maybe some did. And maybe most died.

[Karoht]

Part of me hopes the odds of survival are 1 in 3. And the odds catch up with Tarvek.

I know Smurfatha likes him somewhat, though I think she has very quickly forgotten some of the events at Sturmhalten. And I don't trust a darn thing from him.

[sihnfahl]

Originally Posted by Karoht

Part of me hopes the odds of survival are 1 in 3. And the odds catch up with Tarvek.

You mean 2 in 3. We know Agatha and Gil survive already.

I know Smurfatha likes him somewhat, though I think she has very quickly forgotten some of the events at Sturmhalten. And I don't trust a darn thing from him.

No, but she can train him.
Trust, no, but he can be trained.

[Karoht]

Originally Posted by sihnfahl

You mean 2 in 3. We know Agatha and Gil survive already.

Oh no I meant 1 in 3. Agatha gets lucky. Gil gets lucky. Tarvek, not so much.

Maybe he drinks the water and keeps the skin color effect of the immolation. It would take a poncy fellow like him down a peg or two.

No, but she can train him.
Trust, no, but he can be trained.

Water turns him into a partial jaeger, therefore a loyal minion?
Heel boy! Good Tarvek.

The guy's a dirty jockey and he drives a crooked horse.

As for the Storm King + Heterodyne prophesy of peace in Europe, I could see Agatha going along with such a union, for the good of others, even if it were only for a short while. By george I hope I'm wrong.

[Gez]

Originally Posted by Karoht

Oh no I meant 1 in 3. Agatha gets lucky. Gil gets lucky. Tarvek, not so much.

Agatha and Gilgamesh survive, that's two survivals out of three. Hence, "the odds of survival are 2 in 3". Tarvek dies, that's one death out of three. Hence, "the odds of death are 1 in 3".

[Aptera]

She is a Heterodyne in Mechanigsburg. She can do anything. It may be a twisted mockery of reality, but you know, she can do it.

[Captain Happy]

Originally Posted by Gez

Agatha and Gilgamesh survive, that's two survivals out of three. Hence, "the odds of survival are 2 in 3". Tarvek dies, that's one death out of three. Hence, "the odds of death are 1 in 3".

Not because the survival odds are 1 in 3 that only 1 of the 3 actually survives.
With 3 people and 1 in 3 survival odds the chances of survival are :
3 survive = 1/27 ~.037
2 survive = 6/27 ~.222
1 survive = 12/27 ~.444
0 survive = 8/27 ~.296

So even when the odds of death are 2 in 3 the chance of 2 or more surviving are 26%

[Welf von Ehrwal]

Originally Posted by Karoht

Part of me hopes the odds of survival are 1 in 3. And the odds catch up with Tarvek.

You're crazy! A 66,6% chance of success is a death sentence for all of them!
If it was a 1:100 chance two of them might survive, with an 1:10.000 chance even all three. And with a 1:1.000.000 chance all three would survive and the Other would go away and the Kestle would be repaired. Don't you know anything about statistics?

[small pumpkin m]

If Othar's twitter is canon, and discounting chaos theory, it's not possible for Tarvek to die permanently until Othar interacts with his timeline.

Those are some pretty big ifs though.

[Oracle_Hunter]

Originally Posted by small pumpkin m

If Othar's twitter is canon, and discounting chaos theory, it's not possible for Tarvek to die permanently until Othar interacts with his timeline.

Those are some pretty big ifs though.

Tut tut - that Tarvek is from the Bad Future Timeline; if we're going to assume Tarvek must live, then it is equally true that Othar must fail.

Looks like someone needs to do some background reading

[Eco-Mono]

Personally, I'm just worried about how the fourth person in this love triangle is going to react to Agatha joining the SVV.

BackupLucrezia, I mean.

[Morty]

Originally Posted by Oracle_Hunter

Tut tut - that Tarvek is from the Bad Future Timeline; if we're going to assume Tarvek must live, then it is equally true that Othar must fail.

Looks like someone needs to do some background reading

See? This is why I hate time travel in fiction.

[Oracle_Hunter]

Originally Posted by Morty

See? This is why I hate time travel in fiction.

Well, it's much better than time travel in real life.

Trust me on this one

[datalaughing]

Yet another Twitter update. Wow, making up for lost time. Why do I think this means Othar may soon be showing up in the main comic?

Wow, I never noticed that the prisoners all seem to be wearing the same necklace. Exploding collars. Ouch.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Originally Posted by datalaughing

Wow, I never noticed that the prisoners all seem to be wearing the same necklace. Exploding collars. Ouch.

That's a little dangerous. Most of the prisoners are sparks of great or lesser ability. Some would surely figure a way around the collar, and that'd give them access to explosives. Yes, they are designed by Wulfenbach, but still, the guy is good, not all-powerful.

Grey Wolf

[slayerx]

Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c

That's a little dangerous. Most of the prisoners are sparks of great or lesser ability. Some would surely figure a way around the collar, and that'd give them access to explosives.

Eh, would they really be any more dangerous than what the prisoners can find lying around the castle?

[Oracle_Hunter]

Originally Posted by slayerx

Eh, would they really be any more dangerous than what the prisoners can find lying around the castle?

QFT

Ah yes, it does look like Othar's Twitter is not only canon, but rapidly advancing to Comic Time.

Quick, somebody dig out the correct pronunciation of Othar's name - we must be ready for his re-reintroduction to the comic!

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Originally Posted by slayerx

Eh, would they really be any more dangerous than what the prisoners can find lying around the castle?

Well, it is fresh explosive. It is guaranteed to work as intended. So I'll agree it is likely "safer" than most strange machines in the castle, but only because it explodes on demand rather than randomly.

Grey Wolf

[memnarch]

Sneaky gate

Spoiler

Hehehe! More fuel for shipping fans.