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Old 02-27-2010, 04:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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Labyrinth of Touhou is a fan-made RPG based on Touhou Project, yadda yadda yadda, game discussion topic can be found here.

It has recently come to my attention that I have a high tolerance for grinding (well, I've actually known this for a while). Labyrinth of Touhou isn't anywhere near the grindiest game I've played (*glares at FFXI*), but it seems to put off some players despite my insistance that it's not necessary until endgame. So perhaps it'll be more fun for them to watch me game over several times with underleveled characters.

To make this, my second playthrough, more interesting, I figured I might as well crack open this New Game + feature on the buggy 2.06 patch. This lets me have access to every single character from the start of the game, although they all start fresh at level 1 of course. I figured people who'd want me to use their favorites like Utsuho or Yuka would rather have me start with them than wait for me to beat the final boss before even unlocking them. There are still several characters I haven't even tried using yet, so this will be a good opportunity for me to try them out, so long as you vote for them!

This is my stipulation: I will only be allowed to level up 12 characters throughout my playthrough, which you will get to vote on. This means no switching out certain characters when convenient for specific boss strategies, which might force me to get creative at times without resorting to level grinding. Since I start with all characters unlocked, some of the early game will be a bit easier because I have a full party to start with. However, I'll be at the mercy of my viewers when it comes to party balance issues, which will likely come back to bite me on the later bosses where significant strategy is required to overcome them at a reasonable level. Just keep in mind that giving me a bad party might tax my ability to grind, although I'm sure those of you who are sadistic will take great delight in it.

Anyhow, onwards to the first topic of business: Choosing my party! I'd divvy up the 40 different characters of the game into 4 major roles: tank, physical offense, magical offense, and support. Mixed attackers get their own category as well. Ideally, I would like to have at least 2 tanks, 2-3 physical characters, 2-3 magical characters, and 4-6 support characters (hopefully with 1-2 healers). However, I will honor whatever the people vote for (because it's funnier to watch me struggle through the game). Here's a short blurb of all the characters. And yes, there will be spoilers on who's in this game, but if you were worried about spoilers (for a Touhou game no less), why are you even reading a Let's Play?

Tanks: I'm listing the most dedicated tanks here. These are the characters I want to keep in the front of the party row, to soak up the most attacks. They will oftentimes be tasked with switching out other characters in battle, especially since most of them can't do much damage.

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Physical Attackers: Guess what these folks do...oh, and ideally it's best to have each of the 6 attack elements (Fire, cold, Wind, Nature, Mystic, and Spirit) represented in your team. You know, if you care about party balancing. Just saying.

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Magical Attackers: Once again, these are the most dedicated magic attackers. Those with a more unique or notable utility role are filed under Support. Also note attack elements.

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Mixed Attackers:

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Support - Supporting characters are vital if you wish to survive boss fights. Stat buffing/debuffing, status effects, and healing are all essential for the game. So please give me some of them, or I will cry.

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More info can be found on the wiki.

The 12 characters that I will be using have been selected:

Patchouli
Cirno
Remilia
Meiling
Suwako
Sakuya
Reimu
Aya
Flandre
Suika
Alice
Yuka

As of 05/02/10, I am pleased to announce that this Let's Play is complete!

Prologue
Chapter 1 - Floor 1 (Part 1)
Chapter 2 - Floor 1 (Part 2)
Chapter 3 - Floor 2 (Part 1)
Chapter 4 - Floor 2 (Part 2)
Chapter 5 - Floors 3 + 4 (Part 1)
Chapter 6 - Floors 3 + 4 (Part 2)
Chapter 7 - Floor 5
Chapter 8 - Floor 6
Chapter 9 - Floor 7
Chapter 10 - Floor 8
Chapter 11 - Floor 9 (Part 1)
Chapter 12 - Floor 9 (Part 2)
Expositional Interlude #1
Chapter 13 - Floors 10, 11, and 12 (Part 1)
Chapter 14 - Floors 10, 11, and 12 (Part 2)
Chapter 15 - Floors 10, 11, and 12 (Part 3)
Expositional Interlude #2
Chapter 16 - Floor 13
Chapter 17 - Floor 14 (Part 1)
Chapter 18 - Floor 12 Revisited
Chapter 19 - Floor 14 (Part 2)
Expositional Interlude #3
Chapter 20 - Floor 15
Chapter 21 - Floor 16 (Part 1)
Chapter 22 - Floor 16 (Part 2)
Chapter 23 - Floor 17
Chapter 24 - Floor 18 (Part 1)
Chapter 25 - Floor 18 (Part 2)
Expositional Interlude #4
Chapter 26 - Floor 19
Chapter 27 - Floor 20 (Part 1)
Final Chapter - Floor 20 (Part 2)
Epilogue

Wait, what's this? It's not over yet! I'm back, this time with the post-game content! This is Labyrinth of Touhou - Plus Disk Edition!

Prologue
Chapter 1 - Introductions
Chapter 2 - Floor 21
Chapter 3 - Floor 22
Chapter 4 - Floor 23
Chapter 5 - Floor 24
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Old 02-27-2010, 04:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #2
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I vote for Cirno! Baka<3
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The Tengu Association demands that you pick Aya.
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:31 PM   Top  -  End  -  #4
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I meant to say you could vote for up to 12 characters. So yeah...
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Patchy!
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My vote goes for Meiling. Because real women don't need no flashy magic to beat your face in .
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You can vote for more than one, you know. >.>

I'm also opening the vote on the Touhou Project facebook group, since I happen to be admin there.
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I know. I'll probably give you a full list of characters I want to see in this, soon.

And expect me to pick the girls based on my Touhou preference and not combat abilities.

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I know. I'll probably give you a full list of characters I want to see in this, soon.

And expect me to pick the girls based on my Touhou preference and not combat abilities.
Oh, I'm counting on it. Unless I'm crazy enough to attempt all the post-game content again, I don't really mind too much who I use. I'm pretty confident that I can beat the main game with at least one tank and one healer. And if I don't get even that...well, it'll still be funny to see how many game overs I get. It might be a good opportunity to use characters I've never used before.

For your reference, my current party for my first playthrough of most of the post-game portion was:

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And here are the characters I've never even personally tried out in my first playthrough:

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Everyone else I've used for some time, but eventually ended up dropping.
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Hmm, I didn't start out with all the characters, I earned them by fighting and beating most of the game by myself. I still haven't gotten Utsuho, Yuka, or Shikieiki yet so I can't give you my opinion on them.

And you will NEED to switch people for boss fights because of the whole elemental affinities thing and whether a person is weak to mind or def. Meaning, for example, if Yuka is weak to a fire elemental affinity, then you have to bring in people like Yuugi and Alice to deal way more damage with fire attacks. There's no point bringing in Marisa, whose attacks are all mystic, into that fight since Yuka is resistant to mystic.

For tanks, Komachi's insane hp growth will make her the best tank in the game. Narrow Confines of Avici is also one of the best debuffs so that's useful. Tenshi's def and mind are very high and she'll also make a good tank, but you have to be careful since there are attacks that ignore def and mind in the plus disc.

The best ones for support would be Reimu, Yukari, Eirin, and Sakuya, since they have decent HP and can stand most attacks.

With Yukari Reimu can focus on healing while Yukari buffs up def/mind. Sakuya is mainly for speed, use ZA WARUDO before Lunar Dial and you'll have a valuable speed buffer and you can use her to switch out characters quickly.

Ran is useful sometimes with her Banquet of 12 General Gods and Eighty Million Holy Boards and you can use her to buff up the whole party at once.

Eirin is there to heal and stand attacks that would normally kill Sanae or Minoriko. You can bring Sanae or Minoriko in your party but they are pretty fragile so try to avoid them being hit. Also Mystia is pretty useful.

For attacking, there's a choice of Youmu, Marisa, Patchy, Flandre, Yuugi, Yuyuko, Kaguya, and Kanako. And apparantly Utsuho and Shikieiki.

So a good party would be Reimu, Marisa, Patchy, Eirin, Sakuya, Flandre, Yukari or Ran, Youmu, Yuyuko, Komachi, Sanae or Minoriko, Shikieiki, and Kanako.

And I'm not sure if it will be the case in your game, but the stairs to floor 21 might not show up after you've beaten the floor 20 final boss. If that happens, try reinstalling the game.
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Hmm, I didn't start out with all the characters, I earned them by fighting and beating most of the game by myself. I still haven't gotten Utsuho, Yuka, or Shikieiki yet so I can't give you my opinion on them.
I already got everyone from my first playthrough, and am simply trying to spice things up for a second playthrough by using 2.06 patch's New Game + mode.

And Shikieiki is pretty fantastic, btw. Very reliable damage dealer. Maybe not as much raw damage against most bosses as Flandre's Starbow Break, but against high def enemies it's hard to do better than Last Judgment *glares at F27 boss*. Due to the sheer reliability of Last Judgment, it's my spell of choice for taking extra turns for. For example, against the Kedamagrammaton (F27 boss who takes 0 damage from most attacks), I killed before it managed to finish using Rankain despite it having a ridiculous speed score of 1900. I carefully manipulated my team's speed so that I could go World-Shaking Military Rule > Last Judgment > Buddha's Stone Bowl > Last Judgment > Yukari's Spiriting Away > Danmaku Barrage > Scarlet Golden Sword > Last Judgment, for nearly 4 million points of DEF/MND ignoring damage all within a single turn.

I haven't really used most of the other Plus Disk characters besides Mystia, though. Speaking of which, I think Mystia is now my favorite character in the game.

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And you will NEED to switch people for boss fights because of the whole elemental affinities thing and whether a person is weak to mind or def. Meaning, for example, if Yuka is weak to a fire elemental affinity, then you have to bring in people like Yuugi and Alice to deal way more damage with fire attacks. There's no point bringing in Marisa, whose attacks are all mystic, into that fight since Yuka is resistant to mystic.
That's the whole point of the challenge. If I've already beaten Yuka the old fashioned way, then I figured I might as well impose a challenge on myself for the next time around. I know the conventional strategy for every boss already, but can I figure out a way to beat certain strategy-intensive bosses when all I have is a hammer? Even if I fail, at least I hope it'll be entertaining.

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Yeah, that happened on my first playthrough. It's OK, I know how to fix it. Although, I'm not sure how much of the post-game content I plan on doing for this Let's Play, as the post-game has a lot of required level grinding. That's probably not the most interesting thing I can do.
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Mima.

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Lol, I wish, but I'm afraid she's not in this game. Poor Mima.
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Use Hina, and defeat enemies with SPINNING!

Or use Meiling, Chen, Patchouli, Suwako, and Sanae.
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I vote for Yuka.

And not just because she's my favorite.
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I'll vote for China, Tenchi, Remilia, Flandre, Marisa, Patchouli, Alice, Reimu, Sakuya, Cirno, and Eirin.
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Meiling. Poor China always gets ignored by ZUN and she is so awesome. And if you have Meiling you got to have Sakuya too, what is the gate guard without the maid? Patchy is just an adorably grumpy bookworm who happens to be just like one of my favorite Negima characters, so her as well. Since i like trolling reporter type characters, yes there are surprisingly many of them in total, i vote for Aya too. And it would just be mean to leave THE STRONGEREST out, also since she is the strongerest why would you want to leave Cirno out?

These are the only real preferences i have so my list of votes is: Meiling, Sakuya, Patchy, Aya and Cirno.

Also you can always off-screen grinding since it would indeed not be very fun to look at for those reading the let's play.
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Meiling. Poor China always gets ignored by ZUN and she is so awesome.
She's doing a lot better than all the characters that appear in one game and never agian. :/
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Yeah, but compare how much attention ZUN gives her to how much the fan community does and there is a clear discrepancy. As far as i can tell she is one of the most popular characters with the fans, while she hasn't been used by ZUN in ages. Remember that the fighting games are officially sanctioned fanworks and not by ZUN himself.
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Sakuya/Remilia/Yuuka/Mokou/Frandle/Yuyuko haven't been used in just as long, and they're more popular than her. Besides, two appearances is still better than what quite a few characters have managed, so...
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I vote for:
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My picks, which lack rhyme or reason:

Cirno
Rumia
Chen
Youmu Konpaku
Alice Margatroid
Marisa Kirisame
Hong Meiling
Suwako Moriya
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I find it funny that I noticed both the facebook group project and the one here around the same time, since I am also part of both, though fairly passive.

I just want Marisa.
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I've gone ahead and finished up the Prologue:

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As you can see, my plan for this Let's Play is to write from a first-person perspective of a different character each time. Voting on characters is still open, although I think I'll end it by Tuesday, since I am most free on Tuesday nights and would like to get started on the first gameplay segment then. Just fyi, counting the votes from both places where I posted this, Patchouli and Cirno are leading the polls by quite a margin, so they're pretty much guarenteed a spot. The rest of the votes are a bit more spread out, although it's obvious that the SDM characters are making a very strong showing. It's still not too late to vote, especially if you want to see me write from your character's perspective. Although, I'm not sure how creative I can get with some, so I might have to impute my own character interpretation.

Thank you to all who responded!
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Looks good so far. And doesn't surprise me that Patchy and Cirno are leading. Patchy is a nerd and other nerds can identify with it and Cirno is just too fun with her combination of weakness, stupidity and smugness. I wonder who is popular apart from the ones you mentioned, though.
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I wonder who is popular apart from the ones you mentioned, though.
Patchy and Cirno lead by 9 votes apiece. Remilia and Meiling are in 3rd and 4th at 6 votes each. Sakuya and Suwako both have 5. After that is a hodgepodge of about a dozen characters in the 3-4 votes range.
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Hmm, no new votes here? Then I guess I'll just move on ahead.

Final team looks like it's going to be:

Patchouli
Cirno
Remilia
Meiling
Suwako
Alice
Sakuya
Reimu
Aya
Suika
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Rinnosuke, MAN or not, being the most powerful character is something that should not be happening EVER. It's like saying Cirno is actually the strongest.

* gets icicle fall easy'd *

My votes, though, based on my personal favorites in Touhou:

Marisa: Every single Touhou shmup I play, I always use Marisa. Never mind that Reimu's shoot-at-everything is more useful against normal enemies, Marisa just has a sort of "style" that makes everything awesome.

Aya: You cannot abandon ZUN's wife.

Suwako: I'm like the only Touhou fan in the world that doesn't hate Suwako, so her voice must be heard.

(Not that my votes matter, since it looks like you've already decided =p)

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It's not like Mannosuke being strong is unprecedented.

Behold, Touhou Soccer:
Rinnosuke's Combo with Tokiko

And another.
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Wait, mannosuke isn't in this game? aww, should've voted for him. But at least patchouli and cirno is in this lp.
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