5 strongest non-modded monsters found in monster manuel(3.5)

[Tyndmyr]

And he has a *lot* of SLAs. Fight magic with magic and stuff.



I don't get this part. I don't see any aura dealing divine damage on either crab.

Ah, I'm talking about the Neutronium Golem, not the crabs.

[Fax Celestis]

Ah, I'm talking about the Neutronium Golem, not the crabs.

Perhaps if you have problems with crabs you should visit the Relationship Woes and Advice thr *is shot*

[Tyndmyr]

Heh.

For the crabs, I think my solution would be force cage, followed by the creation of the order of mages who force cage crabs for the safety of all humanity.

[PersonMan]

Actually, I didn't do a very good job when I put it together initially. Not only is it immune to its own abilities, but it is also immune to death effects and transmutation. Helcaerfax is actually easier to take down than the DPPDC because of that, assuming you can get in range to get off a SoD that it fails its save on.

I was talking about the Neutronium Golem, actually.

[Oslecamo]

Ah, I'm talking about the Neutronium Golem, not the crabs.

Ah, I'll agree with you there. Thing has just big numbers and really no way to bypass magic combos.

Unless we play a little with the absurd number of feats it gets.

For the crabs, I think my solution would be force cage, followed by the creation of the order of mages who force cage crabs for the safety of all humanity.

Dimensional door SLA. You'll have to do better than that.

[Tyndmyr]

Ah, I'll agree with you there. Thing has just big numbers and really no way to bypass magic combos.

Unless we play a little with the absurd number of feats it gets.

Oh, it could be rebuilt to be truly nasty, I have no doubt of that.

I'd rather just start fresh if inventing a monster, though. I don't want to have to explain the existance of wizards with caster levels over 9000. The resulting DBZ jokes alone would make it not worthwhile.

Dimensional door SLA. You'll have to do better than that.

Hmm. Well, it'll work for Helcaerfax. It's spellcrab buddy, though, will be a problem. Standing back(flying) and orbing it to death is likely the smart move. I don't believe it can fly.

[Fax Celestis]

Hmm. Well, it'll work for Helcaerfax. It's spellcrab buddy, though, will be a problem. Standing back(flying) and orbing it to death is likely the smart move. I don't believe it can fly.

Jump +155 means it may not have to.

[Zieu]

Edit: Honestly, if this ever appears in a campaign, Im going to point out the following.

A. Space is dark.
B. He has darkvision 60.
C. He travels at the speed of light, and is ridiculously heavy.
D. Falling damage scales with weight.
E. I just tossed a marble in his path.

Wait....so you're saying trip him in space with a marble? Or get him to hit the marble? Because the laws of physics (specifically, Newton's 3rd) have somthing to say about trying to kill him by running him into a marble...and I don't think falling damage applies in space where gravity is only present in close proximity to stars/planets...

Or maybe I missed the point entirely, haha

[arguskos]

Wait....so you're saying trip him in space with a marble? Or get him to hit the marble? Because the laws of physics (specifically, Newton's 3rd) have somthing to say about trying to kill him by running him into a marble...and I don't think falling damage applies in space where gravity is only present in close proximity to stars/planets...

Or maybe I missed the point entirely, haha

Yup, you missed the point. This is D&D. Physics has no place here.

[Tyndmyr]

Yup, you missed the point. This is D&D. Physics has no place here.

Well, in fairness, even in reality, a marble travelling at the speed of light would still leave a rather substantial mark. =)

But yeah, it's actually just an abuse of falling damage. 20d6+d6/200lbs to both objects.

So, the marble gets destroyed too.

[arguskos]

Well, in fairness, even in reality, a marble travelling at the speed of light would still leave a rather substantial mark. =)

And in reality, a golem made out of neutronium would utterly ignore everything short of MORE neutronium or a black hole. Your point?

So, the marble gets destroyed too.

Poor marble, it never wanted to get involved in this sorta thing. It just wanted to find a nice marble-lady and settle down, have a few marble-kids and live a nice happy life.

[Tyndmyr]

And in reality, a golem made out of neutronium would...

This amuses me.

[arguskos]

This amuses me.

Well, if you're gonna break out the "in reality a marble..." I can do the same thing with neutronium (a real material, after all).

LolD&Dphysics?

[Urpriest]

Well, in fairness, even in reality, a marble travelling at the speed of light would still leave a rather substantial mark. =)

But yeah, it's actually just an abuse of falling damage. 20d6+d6/200lbs to both objects.

So, the marble gets destroyed too.

Neither is, strictly speaking, falling though.

At best I could see you taking advantage of the Ramming rules. You'd need a small and unobtrusive vehicle rather than a marble. For those with Arms and Equipment Guide easily accessible, is ramming damage uncapped?

[Tyndmyr]

You build a golem of it, I'll get a marble. Let's test.

PS: Bet I'm ready first.

[arguskos]

You build a golem of it, I'll get a marble. Let's test.

PS: Bet I'm ready first.

Let's talk in a few hundred years, k? It's a dinner date.

[Fax Celestis]

Let's talk in a few hundred years, k? It's a dinner date.

...which one of you is Graz'zt and which one of you is Iggwilv?

[arguskos]

...which one of you is Graz'zt and which one of you is Iggwilv?

I post for both the Dark Prince and the Witch Queen. They're... *ahem*busy*ahem*.

[Augmented Lurk]

It seems like it would actually be pretty easy to kill a neutronium golem with a Mace of Smiting.

And to answer the OP:
Demilich
Solar
Prismatic Great Wyrm
Force Great Wyrm
Advanced Gold Great Wyrm

[Urpriest]

It seems like it would actually be pretty easy to kill a neutronium golem with a Mace of Smiting.

And to answer the OP:
Demilich
Solar
Prismatic Great Wyrm
Force Great Wyrm
Advanced Gold Great Wyrm

Demilich would be modded, no? Or do you mean specifically the sample demilich?

[Augmented Lurk]

The sample Demilich has 21st level wizard casting, magic immunity, and a supernatural ability that eats your soul. Even without modding it's pretty brutal.

[AimlessSage]

Based upon my experiance, The imp, its listed as a CR 2, it has;
fast healing (2)
DR 5/good or silver
invisibility AT WILL
Poison Injury, Fortitude DC 13, initial damage 1d4 Dex, secondary damage 2d4 Dex. The save DC is Constitution-based and includes a +2 racial bonus
Fly(perfect) 50ft

2nd level characters rarely have silver weapons, or good aligned so they will do little damage. It has fast healing, so even if you hit it it will get better. It can turn invisible at will to heal up if it DOES take any kind of real damage, or heck, just to pot shot unsuspecting foes. The poisoned attacks will eventually cripple your members one by one reducing their ability to dodge with each failed roll. and to top it all off, it fly's at 50ft(perfect) so you cant even run away from it.

[Oslecamo]

Well, in fairness, even in reality, a marble travelling at the speed of light would still leave a rather substantial mark. =)

Ok, then it's only fair we apply that logic to caster as well.

The wizard teleports? Moving at infinite speed. There's a bug at the end location? Wizard dies in a splatter of blood.

[Tetrasodium]

There are a series of spells in the one of the eberron books that removes various aspects of the construct immunities depending on which you use. The highest of the bunch basically strips them all :).

[BobSutan]

Simplest way to defeat the golem that comes to mind is to just build 2 more.