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Old 12-12-2010, 11:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #481
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As I said before, Monday nights are looking pretty busy for me, so I probably won't be able to update tomorrow.
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:54 PM   Top  -  End  -  #482
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The abilities of the Prismriver sisters makes some sense. Lunasa is the depressive one, Merlin is the overly excitable one, and Lyrica is the one who goads others into fighting for her.

As for Lily White, I'm not sure if spring will happen while fighting Youmu or Yuyuko.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:10 AM   Top  -  End  -  #483
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Wow, three attacks and a territory in one turn. That's...pretty fast.

Is there a team for defense as well, or is the plan now just focusing everyone on attacking and disregarding counterattacks?
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Wow, three attacks and a territory in one turn. That's...pretty fast.

Is there a team for defense as well, or is the plan now just focusing everyone on attacking and disregarding counterattacks?
Well, with a full group of characters, we can probably attack 3 times and defend relatively well in the same turn.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:25 AM   Top  -  End  -  #485
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If I counted correctly, then I think we have 19 units devoted to battling. Not quite perfect, but yeah that should do. If we had to, we could probably go and get Reisen or someone to replace a generic as well.

In other news, I have no idea where that prisoners list ran off to.
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:19 AM   Top  -  End  -  #486
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The 'dissipating distance' bit just bugs me though , in the vein of "if i can BS the wording enough, my power can do anything". I blame Yukari for that trend .
They're like Nobilis characters, really. (Warning: TVTropes link. Follow at your own risk.)
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Old 12-14-2010, 08:54 PM   Top  -  End  -  #487
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Since we're approaching the end of the game, I've been thinking of ideas to continue this Let's Play beyond the story's conclusion. How about messing around with the game's National Mode? We can even use edited data. That means submitting our own characters that can appear in the game! I'll probably have to write my own random scenarios too. But which army should we go with...

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Old 12-14-2010, 09:20 PM   Top  -  End  -  #488
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Since we're approaching the end of the game, I've been thinking of ideas to continue this Let's Play beyond the story's conclusion. How about messing around with the game's National Mode? We can even use edited data. That means submitting our own characters that can appear in the game! I'll probably have to write my own random scenarios too. But which army should we go with...

More details to come.
As a note for anyone who might submit characters: Your character can appear for the other teams as a freelancer as well. If you make your character too overpowered, it'll hurt us as well if they get recruited by the others.

Anyway, I vote for playing as the Mountain of Faith team if we go into National Mode. They're the only unique team that's not represented in the game already (in Normal anyway, I haven't tried the harder difficulties yet), so why not? The only problem (much like the problem for another team) would be finding a place to start off in, but that can be fixed with the various map settings I guess. As for random scenarios, have fun with it. The great thing about scenarios when using the MoF crew would be that they would all have to be original, rather than viewpoint shifts for other teams already in the game.

Alternatively, you could just move on to another game. I'm not sure what could follow, but there's a ton of options to pick from.
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Old 12-14-2010, 09:37 PM   Top  -  End  -  #489
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Now Loli Alice, Yuki and Mai show up show up. And we see zen master Yuyuko here.
And don't worry Shinki, I think people who play Mystic Square will still remember you.
I have a few questions though, what happens if Mai meets Cirno, Sakuya meets Yumeko, or Meiling meets Sara?

As for Youmu, don't worry about how you look because some people like you being cute, although acting less childish than Polnareff might be better.

As for the army in national mode, I say go for the strongest and pick Cirno's army and maybe we can create team 9.
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Old 12-14-2010, 09:43 PM   Top  -  End  -  #490
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I have a few questions though, what happens if Mai meets Cirno, Sakuya meets Yumeko, or Meiling meets Sara?
How interesting that you bring those up. All three are unlockable dialogue cutscenes.
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Now Loli Alice, Yuki and Mai show up show up. And we see zen master Yuyuko here.
And don't worry Shinki, I think people who play Mystic Square will still remember you.
I have a few questions though, what happens if Mai meets Cirno, Sakuya meets Yumeko, or Meiling meets Sara?
Sshhhh, they aren't supposed to kn-...oh whatever.

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Seems to make sense seeing as how they're the masters of the territories. I'm actually sort of suprised that Cirno has dialogue with the Yuki/Mai group. Mai and Cirno both have wings and use ice magic, but still.
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:43 AM   Top  -  End  -  #493
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Alternatively, you could just move on to another game. I'm not sure what could follow, but there's a ton of options to pick from.
I had been curious about Genius of Sapphieros, but there's no English patch for that at the moment, and I don't like the idea of running a LP if I can't even read the text. I've also considered Touhou Mother (a.k.a. TOUHOUBOUND), but there's already multiple video LP's for that on youtube, and I don't know what else to add since it's already hilarious enough as is.

I suppose Touhou Pocket Wars EVO is not a bad choice, since I've only played the original, and haven't touched EVO yet. But I have no clue how to incorporate any sort of story to it, given its very grindy nature.
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Yeah. Touhou Mother... The Video LP of it I saw was one of the best i have ever seen.
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I had been curious about Genius of Sapphieros, but there's no English patch for that at the moment.
They just got a beta version out; suffice to say, it's still very much a work in progress. Most of the menus and whatnot are still untranslated; it looks like about all you'd be able to read is the main plotline (and even there, some sections aren't done). Also random crashes, etc.

And apparently the makers of the game are putting out a plus-disk/expansion pack at Comiket, so it might be smart to wait and see what happens with that.

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EVO has a story, of sorts. It's...decent enough, from what I've seen of it. But yeah, this would be a tricky one to do as a Let's Play, due to general grindiness. And randomness. (Granted, the latter can for the most part be overcome by save-scumming...)
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I'll be honest. I don't like this version of Yuyuko and Youmu that much. While i'm glad they remembered that Yuyuko is quite the troll and actually fairly smart, they overdid the troll part and just has her come off horrible. Youmu on the other hand is way too weak a person here. Yes, she's supposed to be fairly immature and too soft, but not this weak and easily messed with.

As for what to do next, i'd love if you did the bonus boss found on higher difficulties. I'd never have the patience to fight her myself, but i'm genuinely curious about the plot relating to her, whoever she is.
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I had been curious about Genius of Sapphieros, but there's no English patch for that at the moment, and I don't like the idea of running a LP if I can't even read the text. I've also considered Touhou Mother (a.k.a. TOUHOUBOUND), but there's already multiple video LP's for that on youtube, and I don't know what else to add since it's already hilarious enough as is.

I suppose Touhou Pocket Wars EVO is not a bad choice, since I've only played the original, and haven't touched EVO yet. But I have no clue how to incorporate any sort of story to it, given its very grindy nature.
I'm sure you'll be happy to find that Touhou Pocket Wars EVO (and its expansion EVO+) have storylines (EVO+ is the same of course). However, like Rolaran said, I'm sure you'll be unhappy to find that the story is rather short, and the game itself is still rather grind-y and luck-based.

Genius of Sapphieros has a video-translation series available on YouTube. Granted, it's not as convenient as having the game fully translated already, and it doesn't provide translations for things like menus or lists, but it's better than nothing. I personally found it to be a bit grind-y as well, since you're pretty much forced to use all 12 characters you have, and since only 6 get experience at a time...

Touhou Mother's great as well. ...That's pretty much all I can say about it, since I'm still not done with it yet. My main issue would probably be that it's a bit on the easy side. Also, what's wrong with playing a game that has several other playthroughs of it already? I mean just look at how many Pokemon LPs there are on this forum (not that I'm complaining), let alone the rest of the Internet.
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I like Touhou Mother, but it really is one of those games where there's something interesting going on every minute, and trying to run a LP of that in text form just doesn't seem as compelling as a video. My problem with Touhou Pocket Wars is that its repetitive nature makes me feel like I'm playing Tetris or something rather than an actual RPG. Oh sure, I can waste several hours on it and have fun, but it just doesn't seem interesting to make a LP about unless I put some sort of weird spin on it.

Anyway, for new characters to be introduced in Sengoku Gensokyo's National Mode, I'm looking specifically for fairies, ghosts, dolls, and youkai. I already had a lot of human characters added in when I was bored, but I suppose a few more wouldn't hurt either. Still, since every army sticks to the races it was originally comprised of, it'd be nice to have a bit better balance here. Within the races, though, everything will be random, so who knows if they'll get a generic or a new character?
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Ha, that was the most random counterattack defense force I've seen in a while. Flandre, Medicine, Cirno, Kaguya, and Wriggle?

The follow-up to taking over Hakugyokurou surprised me quite a bit actually. After Flandre's fake-out, I wasn't expecting that sort of thing until at least the final boss.
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If the battle in Hakugyokurou is not proof that Gameplay and story separation are in effect, I don't know what is, as Mokou fought Yuyuko, despite not being able to enter the netherworld in the first place.

As for Yukari, I expect a few turns will pass before we are trolled by her or Shinki and the other characters from Mystic Square engage in random banter.

As for new characters, why not several of the Rozen Maiden characters for dolls?
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Maybe Oggie, Dimo & Maxim as Youkai?
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As for new characters, why not several of the Rozen Maiden characters for dolls?
I already have Suigintou, I should probably add the others...

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Maybe Oggie, Dimo & Maxim as Youkai?
I don't know who these are, please enlighten me?
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Jager Monsters from Girl Genius, a webcomic.
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And this is the other reason i think that they really dropped the ball when it came to Yuyuko. Would the girl who committed suicide to seal the Saigyou Ayakakashi, really release any of its power? Remember that she got her memories back after PCB and realized what incredibly bad news the Saigyou really is. Yuyuko got her job as ruler of Hakugyokuro for being kind and friendly and not hurting humans too. Somehow clashes with casually channeling the energy of that tree.
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And this is the other reason i think that they really dropped the ball when it came to Yuyuko. Would the girl who committed suicide to seal the Saigyou Ayakakashi, really release any of its power? Remember that she got her memories back after PCB and realized what incredibly bad news the Saigyou really is. Yuyuko got her job as ruler of Hakugyokuro for being kind and friendly and not hurting humans too. Somehow clashes with casually channeling the energy of that tree.
Well, Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana, which Yuyuko uses in IN (Last Word) and the fighters, is suspiciously similar to X% Reflowering. As for her memory, I'm not actually good enough at PCB to get any of the real endings, but I thought Yuyuko remained unaware of the exact details?
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So...does anyone know what Mokou's talking about? Is this some reference to Cage in Lunatic Runagate?
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So...does anyone know what Mokou's talking about? Is this some reference to Cage in Lunatic Runagate?
Damn it, I was hoping you'd know. I was confused by this as well. :(
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...maybe a Naruto reference?

Also, Chen is adorable when she's ticked off.
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Well, I found the legend that Mokou's referring to, but I can't help with any references to it in other Touhou/related games/stories:

Nine-tailed fox (Wikipedia entry - check the second section, related to Emperor Konoe)
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I can't recall any canon mention of Mokou meeting a Kitsune, so maybe it's a reference to a doujin? Unfortunately, I don't know any doujins that involve Mokou meeting a Kitsune either. However, from the little we learn here, I can guess that the general gist would be that she met Ran and then Ran probably lost her memories of that meeting upon becoming Yukari's shikigami.
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