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Old 12-17-2010, 07:55 AM   Top  -  End  -  #511
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The only time I know of Mokou meeting a Kitsune is Imperishable Night's extra stage, but that is because of Yukari.

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Old 12-17-2010, 09:17 AM   Top  -  End  -  #512
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Can't claim to know what she's talking about either. The doujin theory sounds reasonable, but beyond that i have no idea. Still it isn't that unreasonable for Mokou to have met a Kitsune before. She did live for around 1300 years after all and quickly drifted from living among normal people to living at the fringes of society where the youkai were as well.
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Old 12-17-2010, 10:31 AM   Top  -  End  -  #513
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Well, I found the legend that Mokou's referring to, but I can't help with any references to it in other Touhou/related games/stories:

Nine-tailed fox (Wikipedia entry - check the second section, related to Emperor Konoe)
Why does everyone ignore this? Its not like Touhou games in general never reference mythology. (Does this mean you'll drop the Green Dragon Crescent Blade?)
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #514
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*shrugs* Most likely a reference to mythology. Maybe she thinks Ran is Tamamo-no-Mae?

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Old 12-18-2010, 12:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #516
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Everyone repeat after me. Dammit Yukari Random Number Generator! Nothing else to do except wait and attack again.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #517
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Actually, i personally found Ran harder to deal with than Yukari. Dakini's Possession just gives her insane stats when she uses it, whereas Yukari's Fraying seemed to not trigger that often. We still have the worst enemy on Normal left.
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We still have the worst enemy on Normal left.
There's worse? I thought Suika was the hardest battle during my playthrough, since that was the one where I was actually worried I might run out of reserve units. Even the final boss didn't give me as much trouble, and I actually beat her with no casualties.
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:41 AM   Top  -  End  -  #519
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For me it was Yumeko. She hits like Flandre, moves like Aya and is moderately durable on top of it. She just utterly messed me up whenever she was in a battle. Suika wasn't that bad, Shinki and the final boss weren't either. But damn, Yumeko was brutal.
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:59 AM   Top  -  End  -  #520
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I actually didn't have any trouble against Yumeko (or at least relatively none), and it was all thanks to Medicine. Or rather, Medicine's ability, which will debuff and drastically reduce damage from anyone who engages in Melee combat with her. Either that, or she went and targeted people like Keine.

In other words, I probably just got very lucky with positioning. Yumeko's ability did get me the first time though (pretty much cut Flandre and Remilia's HP in half I think), since I wasn't expecting it.
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:34 PM   Top  -  End  -  #522
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Let's do the Human's and Magicians event because that might power-up Marisa, if its function similar to the Feast event and Reimu.

As for who to attack first, I say go after Sara with Meiling, Medicine, Yuka, Mokou and Keine on the team, but limit it to two attacks.
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:42 PM   Top  -  End  -  #523
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I think we need to give some of the current characters we have the boot, specifically one or two of the lower leveled ones to recruit Yukari (maybe, not sure if she'll join) and Ran.
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:03 AM   Top  -  End  -  #524
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Let's do the Human's and Magicians event because that might power-up Marisa, if its function similar to the Feast event and Reimu.
I think all it does is just get rid of the negative relations between the three, meaning you can now put Marisa and Alice/Patchouli in the same team. Comparing with the base stats from Extra's character editing, everything adds up to what they should be, so at most it would have given HP. But yes, let's go ahead and do it. It's free, and good relations always help.

Anyway, I'm going to go ahead with memnarch's suggestion for getting rid of some of the weaker characters to get Yukari and Ran. Of course, get rid of any generics who aren't really doing anything first. Going off of that list in the original post, we could replace Rosedia and Ayu.

For attacks, go after whichever territory would give you back the most Ryumaku. I'm not sure how far each territory was developed before we lost them, but I'm thinking that would probably be the Forest of Magic. Also, if you want to record the pre-battle cutscenes, I could re-post that list from a page or two ago with the pairings needed to trigger them.

Also, during my playthrough, I actually cleared Sara out of Hakugyokurou the first full turn I had. And then during the MGA's turn? Her cutscene, with Shinki asking her how control of Hakugyokurou is going, happens.

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Seconding Yukari/Ran. Moar firepower is always good, especially when it comes conveniently leveled.

As for what to attack, Day 70 ryumaku is ranked as: Hakurei Shrine, Eientei, everyone else. Haven't played this far myself (stopped to grind res before finishing off the Yakumo's ), but Hakurei Shrine has "taking this first will backfire" written all over it.

Therefore i suggest either Eintei for the ryumaku or M.Forest Interior for relative ease of capture, hopefully in one turn. Most of our territory can soak 2-3 assaults, so i feel we can focus on recapturing over defense. Recapturing M.F.Interior would also remove pressure from the early game territories which are our main source of upkeep. Can't really risk losing those.
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The plot thickens. What exactly is going on with the PC-98 characters?...

This is set before UFO, I take it?
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:43 AM   Top  -  End  -  #527
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It is set between PoFV and MoF, Prime. So yes, it is before UFO.

Also we should definitely watch Humans and Magicians, it's one of the best scenes in the game so we shouldn't miss it.

I also think that if Eientei will give us more back than the other areas, we should definitely take that one first. After that we should probably focus on taking those territories that the Makai people are close to taking territories next to.
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Fourthing (?) Humans and Magicians, and recruit Yukari. I've been wondering when we'd see the Witches subplot play out.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:08 PM   Top  -  End  -  #529
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Definitely see Humans and Magicians. I absolutely love that scene.

Yukari and Ran are both great so I'd recruit those two.

For the first attack...I'd say Young Alice's Magic Forest Interior. Besidesing the times when they get insanely lucky with Mirror Puppet, she's probably the easiest of Shinki's generals to take down. Her attacks don't do a large amount of damage and she is horrendously weak to melee attacks.

After that, I want to attack Louise, Sara, Yuki/Mai, and Yumeko in that order.

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I guess Yuki and Mai have a Boke And Tsukkomi Routine going on, and I wonder what will happen when we introduce them to the ulimate boke. As for which general to attack, I say go for the time paradox.
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Take Eientei first, then the Magic Forest Interior. We really need to get those Ryumaku up again fast to do this.

And yes, humans and magicians should learn to deal with each other. Although, i can't help but feel that the real reason Marisa is still human is that she's kind of a failure at magic that doesn't just make things blow up according to Akyu. So she probably can't actually pull off those spells and is too proud to admit it to others.
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I just realized that I'll be traveling all day tomorrow, so it seems unlikely that I'll be able to update tomorrow either. Sorry.

For Eientei vs. Magic Forest, please reiterate your vote if you haven't done so yet since the last update. I don't want to miss your choice.
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Go for whichever would give the most Ryumaku. I think that's the Magic Forest, but I'm not sure.
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Magic Forest. The one extra ryumaku we'd get from Eientei (4 vs 3 ryumaku) isn't quite as important as is the security of the remaining 11 ryu Forest territories.
The remaining enemy territories in order of threat to our holdings would be:
Muenzuka (2 ryu), SDM top floor (3 ryu), Hakugyokurou (3 ryu), Eientei (4 ryu).
In what seems to be sneaky foresight, none of these territories are worth more than 4 ryu/turn.
The only major loss in ryu was Hakurei Shrine which we cannot reclaim until last anyway.

BTW, does the game auto-level newly formed factions to be on par with the player? I did some level grinding to L30 before mopping up the Yakumos, only to be greeted by L29-32 Makai units .
Kinda wondering whether that's based on time, average team level, highest character level, some combination thereof or something else altogether?
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.....no? Should it be? Also, little distracted at the moment so it might be obvious later.
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Was referring to Shinki lamenting over how no one visits Makai anymore...when stages 5 and 6 of UFO take place in Makai.
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I think this picture is relevant to the situation.
Young Alice's attack used to be like the Psycho Cyan glitch from Final Fantasy VI, where he countered his own attacks.

As for Eientei, why do I get the feeling that Cirno's scene with Yuki and Mai will emerge similar to her M-1 routine with the Scarlet sisters...
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