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2013-04-09, 05:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #883 - The Discussion Thread
I doubt a priest of Thor gets spells that can summon fiends.
Edit: @Another Poet: Wasn't necessarily assuming Hel was evil, but she is a death god who doesn't have any priests, and that's been a theory round here for a while now. Personally, I thought it would humanize Durkula a bit to still have to deal with a ditzy Northern God when praying for spells, which would be nice.Last edited by TRH; 2013-04-09 at 05:12 PM.
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Ohhh, demons! And Durkula is too helpful.
(Tarquin - Nale banter comically one sided, as usual.)
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Well, it's certainly convenient that Durkon kept the receipts of his spells so he could exchange them for more fashionable ones in the store.
And once again, Probability proves itself willing to sneak into a back alley and service Drama as would a copper-piece harlot.
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2013-04-09, 05:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-04-09, 05:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ditto. Taunts and insults by imps should generally have [citation needed] at the end of them.
I dunno, mocking an evil spellcaster's familiar? Would Zz'dtri even care? He probably treats Quarr about as well as Tarquin treats a butler. The last evil spellcaster I played named his undead eagle familiar "Mistake."
He outlived us all.
edit: Ah, Zz'dtri is frowning though. Hmm.Last edited by Another_Poet; 2013-04-09 at 05:22 PM.
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Actually no this is allowed in the rules. Durkon doesn't lose the spells he prepared in the morning and he already had planar ally prepared as mentioned earlier.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/planarAllyLesser.htm
Planar ally doesn't require you to specify what creature you are summoning ahead of time. Durkon doesn't even NEED a god for it, he could just do a general plea for evil outsiders.Awesome Avatar by Derjuin
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So Qarr will be the one heading V to the party? That smells pretty badMy Player Registry entry.
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Good point, but that spell has a ten-minute casting time. There might have been a skip there, but I'm not sure I see it. Still, anything for a little false hope!
As for Z, I don't see him hanging Nale out to dry unless he really has to. He's shown a lot of dedication sticking with the guy for as long as he has, and being a member of the Linear Guild ensures that he'll get chances to off V on a regular basis, which seems to be his primary goal at the moment. Since I don't see V dying to the LG, Z probably won't get an opportunity to turn coat.
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The SRD:
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/vampire.htm
seems to go with: Vampire clerics immediately gain new domains, replacing their old ones (and thus, logically, a new patron deity).
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Vampire clerics lose their ability to turn undead but gain the ability to rebuke undead. This ability does not affect the vampire’s controller or any other vampires that a master controls. A vampire cleric has access to two of the following domains: Chaos, Destruction, Evil, or Trickery.Marut-2 Avatar by Serpentine
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It's probably a Planar Ally or Summon Monster type spell that he was previously planning to use to summon a Celestial animal of some kind. You don't have to pick what you summon until you cast it, so now he picked some kind of fiend.
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Dang! the Forum missed out on an orgy of speculation over how Kilkil can make himself invisible (I maintain that it should be an innate ability of his bureaucrat prestige class ;-)
Or perhaps Qarr is a liar. Could it be?
After all, is Blackwing *really* dimwitted? Bird-brained yes ...
Perhaps Tarquin's the sort of lawful that requires the proper forms be filled out: treasure taken, XPs gained, maps drawn on graph paper 10 feet to the square. In other words: a gamer!Last edited by rewinn; 2013-04-09 at 05:18 PM.
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It would be nice, but it would also be a huge drag, unless the peculiarities of Durkula are really so important. Instant conversion to a new deity does not quite make sense, but it is a lot more fun.
In most cases, a Summon Monster N spell is just a spell. The cleric only has to please his god by making an allowed choice when cast. Durkon intended to cast something nice, but Durkula ended up choosing otherwise.I owe Peelee 5 Quatloos. But I am going double or nothing that Durkon will be casting 8th level spells at the big finale.
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says...
"Just four spellcasters under my command..."
I count (as does Tarquin) "two vampire clerics and a [dark elf] wizard." Who is the fourth?
Unless Kilkil can cast, but he's staying back with Tarquin.Last edited by Another_Poet; 2013-04-09 at 05:19 PM.
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2013-04-09, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Actually, didn't Durkon say earlier his plan to guard the gate was to summon some celestials? That's probably the spell he used just now.
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2013-04-09, 05:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, Blackwing. I think that might possibly be the WORST possible retort, given the circumstances.
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While it hasn't been specified, the tail, roughly Medium size, and spikes, has lead to the speculation that Durkon's fiend is a hamatala or "barbed devil" from MM.
Z's fiend looks vaguely lobster-ish. Piscoloth from Fiend Folio (a book that's already been referenced once in-strip) seems to me the most likely candidate.Last edited by hamishspence; 2013-04-09 at 05:20 PM.
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Tell you what, you read the vampire template entry, particularly the part where it explicitly says that vampire clerics can still cast spells just with different domain access, and you tell me where it says anything about gods or temporary loss of access there. It doesn't. Vampire clerics do not need to worship a god to cast spells, because NO cleric needs a god to cast spells. The rules specifically allow for "non-theistic" clerics, and explains exactly what the effects of turning into a vampire has on a cleric: Rebuke instead of Turn, different domains. Period.
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Quarr hasn't exactly had a lot of luck dealing with Blackwing. Maybe he'll get outsmarted by the
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Under the circumstances, is it wise to take the risk either way?
Granted, Zz'dtri might not care. The entire purpose of the interaction may have been just to play up Nale's feelings for Sabine plus the Description Cut gag. But it does seem pointlessly antagonistic.
I guess himself?
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2013-04-09, 05:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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When Nale said "Four spellcasters" I was like: "Oh crap, maybe Kilkil's actually some kind of crazy powerful spellcaster and we didn't know it."
And then I realized "Oh wait, he's counting his own limpdick, multiclassed enchantment-based sorcerer powers."'Tear down creation just to see if you can.'