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I thought gender was an obsolete biological contruct that's supposed to make sure we have more organic lawn-mowers and walking devices?
Just curious.
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What about individuals who do not buy into the obsolete concept of gender, but who nonetheless identify with the gender that corresponds to their biological sex ?
... actually, the more I think about it, the more it feels like ungood doublethink. Yeah. Still trying to find a good way to address the question of gender as an indifferently cissexual person.
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How can an alien from Alpha (or Beta, or whatever) Draconis be a reptilian ? This goes against every law in phylogenetics !
It's not just that. Consumeristic forces support the notion of gender, and are keeping it alive in order to still be able to sell all their gender-segregated junk. With the help of mind-affecting electomagnetic waves. Always keep your tinfoil hat on, playgrounders !Last edited by Murdim; 2011-02-12 at 02:32 PM.
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Depends on how they reproduce, I s'pose. How many sexes, how much sexual dimorphism, etc.
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If you really want a fitting denominator, I think we'd need to know how they don't fit either gender. I can perceive a continuum where on one end, there are people who are too masculine and too feminine to be considered just one (androgynous), and on the other there are those who are too lacking in both kind of qualities to qualify as either (neutral).
Or you can just go with Serp's advice.Last edited by Frozen_Feet; 2011-02-12 at 02:41 PM.
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Thank heavens for Finnish and its gender-neutral pronouns!
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Possibly the need for it to be already obsolete when a good chunk of the Human populace still live under it and believe it. Kinda failing to see how it's obsolete so much as not applying properly to given individuals.
The Precursors really liked pet iguanas.
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If you have an Y chromosone you're a boy and if not the you're a girl, simple.
It may not have anything to do with mental gender but it is still a clear distinction of gender outside of social notions.
Or at least that's what I have been taught.
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Them is nowadays usually used as a plural, and whilst the singular usage is technically also correct, it sounds awkward in most cases.
That's sex, not gender. They're two different things. Sex refers to what's between your legs, gender to what's between your ears.Quotebox
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The conflicted feelings one feels about death, especially that of a loved one who has willed one money. You are sad they are dead, but that money will really help you. Do you feel happy? But isn't that being ungrateful to the dead person? Should you make yourself feel bad about it just to honor their memory? Is that really healthy?
If they are someone you dislike, you might be glad because they were a jerk, but I mean everyone's a person, right? Shouldn't you be sad if they are dead? But if they were really a jerk...
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This I need to correct. Sex and gender are the exact same thing, even the dictionary says so.
Gender can mean something different than sex, as this quote from The Wiki shows, "Depending on the context, the discriminating characteristics vary from sex to social role to gender identity", but, as even mentioned in that quote, can mean the exact same thing as sex. Using gender to mean social role and gender identity is a very recent introduction and the old meaning still applies in common use and dictionary definitions.
You can use gender to mean your gender identity (i.e. "I identify as male, even though I am biologically female"), but if someone else uses gender to mean the exact same thing as sex, then you cannot say that they are incorrect.
So, in short, I am by no means saying that you cannot use gender to mean something different to sex (though I would suggest using "gender identity" and "physical/biological gender" anywhere that there might be confusion), but I am saying that people who use sex and gender interchangeably or to mean the same thing are not incorrect.
So, in even shorter, what you are saying is not "gender and sex are different things", but rather, "in the way I use gender, gender and sex are different things" or "in the context of this work/discussion, gender and sex are different things".
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But that doesn't make them any less of people. Everyone is a person, so does any one of us have the right to say whether the world would be better off without them? It might be in the short term to you, but everyone has a connection to someone, and just as your life may feel better because of that death, another person's life may be broken and destroyed, dreams that were built up demolished because of the death.
Death is one of the least simple topics that a person can deal with.