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2013-08-19, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-19, 11:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-19, 04:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
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Belkar Bitterleaf, Durkon Thundershield (as vampire), Elan, Haley Starshine, Laurin Shattersmith, Mr. Scruffy, Nale, Roy Greenhilt, TarquinSpoiler
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2013-08-19, 04:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
Is that white blob next to Belkar's left shoulder Mr. Scruffy, or is it too indistinct to tell?
There does seem to be something there, though.Concluded: The Stick Awards II: Second Edition
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2013-08-19, 05:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
About the masquerade scene:
SpoilerSo did we decide, then, about including the guests costumes (where recognizable) as cameos? Like, Nale as Bizarro? I know that we don't list interesting alterations from bonus material, but that would be like crediting "Nale (as Bizarro)". I mean, giving Bizarro a listing. By comparison, we count a corpse as an appearance of a character, but don't call "(as corpse)" an alteration.
If we do, then we have at least three for Bizarro, and one for Guy Fawkes. Anyone recognize any other costumes?Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
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2013-08-19, 05:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
SpoilerIMO, we shouldn't because it's not actually Bizarro or Tony Manero (Tarquin's costume) showing up anymore than than The Joker showing up when an Hinjo apperaed as him in the Island scenes.
To put it another way, Batman the character has shown up in the strip. But if Elan were to dress up as Batman, it wouldn't count as an apperance for Batman since he didn't actually appear.
I know we've stretched the rules for whendollsaction figures of them appear. And I'm cool with that. Pics of them on paintings, magazines, and book covers certainly count.
But a person in costume of that character? No, I don't think it should count in that case.Last edited by Porthos; 2013-08-19 at 05:30 PM.
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2013-08-19, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
SpoilerBut, don't characters appearing as each other count? From the FAQ:
"Also, when someone appears as someone else (for instance when Nale impersonates Elan), that counts as an appearance for both the character in disguise and the character being impersonated."
If impersonations count, it seems to me constumes should count...Last edited by Bird; 2013-08-19 at 05:33 PM.
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2013-08-19, 05:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
Back when Wrecan was running this, I remember there was a discussion about whether or not Thog should get appearances when Tarquin was impersonating him. If I recall correctly, he did end up getting the appearances despite there being some disagreement within the thread. I was one of those who thought he shouldn't have gotten them, but hey.
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2013-08-19, 05:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
SpoilerWe didn't count Hinjoker or Bard Boy in the list except in the Interesting Alterations section, and they would absolutely count if we do this.
I presume there must have been some sort of debate over this when things like that happened.
Also, technically, Nale is Nyblat here, so 'Nyblat' would also get all of his appearances. And we'd have to go through all of SS&DT to redo all of that.
To me, a costume ball is separate from knowingly impersonating someone else and expecting people to buy the impersonation (which might be a rule that needs to be revisited as I think about it).
If we must split hairs, then this is the hair to split:
Appearing in a costume at a ball is NOT trying to deceive people into thinking you are that person, which is the very definition of 'impersonation'.
Tarquin was trying to get people to think he actually was Thog. What is being discussed in Spoiler Bars isn't remotely the same thing, IMO.Last edited by Porthos; 2013-08-19 at 05:50 PM.
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2013-08-19, 05:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
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SpoilerWe didn't count Hinjoker or Bard Boy in the list except in the Interesting Alterations section, and they would absolutely count if we do this.
I presume there must have been some sort of debate over this when things like that happened.
Also, technically, Nale is Nyblat here, so 'Nyblat' would also get all of his appearances. And we'd have to go through all of SS&DT to redo all of that.
To me, a costume ball is separate from knowingly impersonating someone else and expecting people to buy the impersonation (which might be a rule that needs to be revisited as I think about it).
SpoilerSo, the intent is the thing? I assume Elan unwillingly disguised as Nale counted as a Nale appearance? But then, that was the costumer's (Nale's) intent.
Really, I can see the argument either way here. Costumes do constitute a character appearing on the page in some sense, but what counts as a meaningful appearance is really a matter of preference.
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2013-08-19, 06:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
SpoilerYou have to put the dividing line somewhere. And if someone runs up to that line, but doesn't cross it, it's still on the one side of the line than the other.
If we move the line here, some other situation will occur where the line will be debated again.
Personally, I'm comfortable where with the line is at the moment: Someone is attempting to knowingly pass as someone else (or force somone to pass as someone else).
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Well, actually I'd rather the line be moved to not include that, but since it's already settled I'm not going to re-visit it due to all of the hassles it would create.Concluded: The Stick Awards II: Second Edition
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2013-08-19, 06:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
Fair enough!
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2013-08-21, 02:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
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Elan (+1), Haley Starshine, Laurin Shattersmith, Nale (+1), Tarquin (+1)Last edited by martianmister; 2013-08-21 at 02:38 PM.
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2013-08-21, 04:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
I just noticed that we are listing a "Dave (human)" cameo but I believe he is just a shapechanged Sabine.
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2013-08-21, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
Well, Nale, good job getting to 8th place, too bad you're now going to lose it...
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2013-08-21, 06:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
You never know. We might have some afterlife appearances in the near future. Though, you're right, once the next book gets rolling, it's hard to imagine him staying ahead of Redcloak & Xykyon.
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2013-08-21, 06:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-22, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
The question is did Dave (human) ever exist as individual?
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2013-08-22, 04:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-22, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
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2013-08-22, 09:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
I mean, it's certainly possible that she showed up at the beginning of the day, introduced herself as the new guy Dave, and everyone assumed Dave was a regular human. Then when Dave busts out some wings, they're mildly surprised, because that seems like something you would mention right off the bat.
"Hi, my name's Dave, and I got HELLA COOL WINGS, YO."
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2013-08-22, 10:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
...Which would also explain why the other guard didn't even know his name.
I think without firm evidence that Dave the person ever existed, he shouldn't get an appearance. (We stopped counting Polozius after it was revealed to be Z, after all, but for all we know Polozius might be a real ambassador.)
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2013-08-23, 12:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-24, 07:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
Eyepatched Airship Crewman (+3)
Five-o'clock shadow Crewman (+2)
Both links are redirected to strip 392, but there is only one character with Five-o'clock shadow and eyepatch. A case of double-counting?Spoiler
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2013-08-25, 04:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
I had to look up "five o'clock shadow" and just to be clear it appraently means "designer stuubble". I don't have the material referred to by the red numbers but this looks like a mistake to me.
Also there is a female pirate with a blue bandana with white spots. She appears in panels 5, 8 of #391 and panel 12 of #392 . As far as I can see she is not listed at all but should be in the main listing with two appearances.[EDIT: not to be confused with the "Blue Bandana'ed sailor of #479.]Last edited by Mad Humanist; 2013-08-25 at 04:57 AM.
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2013-08-25, 10:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-25, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-25, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-25, 11:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-25, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances V
Last edited by Bird; 2013-08-25 at 01:44 PM.