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Thread: Is there an eclipse occurring?
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2010-08-15, 11:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Is there an eclipse occurring?
Looking at the moon in #742 it has a very unusual crescent shape. Normally, a crescent moon's dark side would go from pole to pole, because the light from the sun will always illuminate exactly half the moon at any one time, and the position of the moon relative to the sun and the planet will determine how much of the dark half is visible from the planet. In this strip, much more than half of the moon would have to be illuminated UNLESS we are actually seeing the full moon - the entire lit half is facing the planet - and another body is passing between sun and planet and casting a shadow.
I contend that there are only two possible explanations for the shape: either it is artistic choice, or there is an eclipse.
So, IF there is an eclipse, does this MEAN something?Cry "Havoc," and let slip the gnomes of war! Or something...
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2010-08-15, 11:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there an eclipse occurring?
(note - before anyone else says it... THAT'S NO MOON... THAT'S A SPACE STATION!)
Cry "Havoc," and let slip the gnomes of war! Or something...
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2010-08-16, 12:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there an eclipse occurring?
the moon could be closer to the planet or larger than our moon, resulting in the size difference?
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2010-08-16, 12:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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It is not a question of size. It is a question of where the shadow or "dark side" of the moon begins and ends. The moon is a sphere. The sun shines on it from one direction. The hemisphere that faces the sun is light. The hemisphere away from the sun is dark. Depending on where Earth is relative to the others, more or less of the light hemisphere is showing - but it is always a hemisphere. The light and dark halves always meet at the poles.
Cry "Havoc," and let slip the gnomes of war! Or something...
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2010-08-16, 12:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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I love how it never crosses anyone's mind that the author may know less about astronomy than they do.
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2010-08-16, 12:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there an eclipse occurring?
Giant, note that I *DID* say it could be artistic!!!
Cry "Havoc," and let slip the gnomes of war! Or something...
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2010-08-16, 12:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Isn't that the way a crescent moon always looks in settings like this?
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2010-08-16, 12:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-16, 01:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-16, 01:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there an eclipse occurring?
No, you misunderstand. It's not an artistic choice. It's a mistake, based on the fact that I don't know how the moon works (because I went to art school, and they don't teach science in art school).
I'm not going to change it, though, because I don't care how the moon works (also because I went to art school).
Your definition of "fun" diverges wildly from mine.Rich Burlew
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2010-08-16, 04:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Or maybe OOTS is placed in a universe where moon acts like that.
Actually this sentence can be used for (almost) every criticism OOTS will receive: "in that universe, things works like that".MaxDibe
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2010-08-16, 04:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Why deos it even matter? Can't we just say that the oots-planets moon work differently than ours?
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2010-08-16, 05:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there an eclipse occurring?
Dare I say it...
And How!
Well, it is a fantasy universe.
How about this way:
The OotS universe has two moons: One moon has an albedo similar to ours: it reflects like back to us. The other one's surface is made in way that it doesn't reflect. Whether that be because of black rocks, odd surface, or whatever, it doesn't reflect light. That's why we don't see it usually.
Now, what's happening here is a partial double-lunar eclipse. Very rare, because the moons orbit usually means they miss each other from a sentient creature living on the planet's perspective. Also, the eclipse can last for about a week. Anyway, that's why Tarquin had the dinner tonight; because of this rare and special event of the double eclipse! Also, it's possible that because of it's rarity, the desert-folk have annotated specific meanings to the double lunar eclipse. Possibly death, and love, which explains the special gladiator event and the fact that Tarquin is making love.
Of course, the recent comics all make sense now!
But seriously, did you expect any less overthinking from a fan of this comic? :P
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2010-08-16, 05:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-16, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Awesome, I rarely see the giant comment in threads. I like the hey it's just artistry.
I would be a procrastinator, but I keep putting it off.
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2010-08-16, 01:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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I won a thread. Am I pathetic to list that in my signture? Yes. Of course I am.
Awesome avatar is awesome. And made by yldenfrei.
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2010-08-16, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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I really appreciate the Giant's response. Not only that he is reading and responding to my idiotic blatherings, but also that he is happy to set the record straight with a simple and honest answer to a question.
Also, surprised no one made any Tick references...Cry "Havoc," and let slip the gnomes of war! Or something...
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2010-08-16, 02:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-16, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there an eclipse occurring?
I'm sure this has been said before but.....
A) What? Did you get an "F" in Body Shapes when you painted a stick figure when the nude model came in?
B) How ashamed are your professors/university that their prized pupil draws stick figures for a living?
C) Yeah, you went to art school. For a about a week!
D) You went to art school? Did you get a Masters in Crayon? A PhD in Straight Lines?
F) What kind of effed up models did you see at Art School that had two different sized shoes?
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2010-08-16, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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To that I answer this.
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2010-08-16, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there an eclipse occurring?
Flaming the Giant seems like a bad idea dude. As to the topic, is it bad i didn't notice the moon looked odd until you guys pointed it out?
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2010-08-16, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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The key phrase here is for a living. I'm going to bet the answer is therefore, "Not very ashamed at all."
Assuming you don't already know, Rich has drawn plenty of stuff for this site or others better than OOTS. As just mentioned on another thread, he drew the Nale/Thog mug shots in OOTS #339. He drew the art for "The Gleaner" article under the Gaming sidebar, to your left. A while back, there was a thread in Arts & Crafts wherein he posted about a dozen fantasy drawings he had done.
EDIT: Found the thread, but for some reason the artwork isn't showing up: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74508Last edited by SPoD; 2010-08-16 at 04:14 PM.
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2010-08-16, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-16, 05:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's funny because instead of treating the Giant as the author of the work, the post presumed him to be in the same position as amateur forum critics such as ourselves, then upbraided him for taking the (much-contested) literary-theoretical stance which considers the author's own interpretation to be privileged and important, thus wrongly but plausibly re-interpreting his factual correction as an invalid argument for aw, screw it. MOON LASER
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2010-08-16, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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I guess so. I still have trouble imagining you could mistake him though, the website is named Giant in the playground, and he's The Giant.
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2010-08-16, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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There's only one answer to that.
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MOON!!!
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2010-08-16, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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The Giant is feeding you all lies.
The truth is:
Someone bit the moon.
*shakes fist*
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2010-08-16, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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A webcomic by Sahaar and I, Shadow of Fire. Read it!
Giant in the Playground Worldbuilding Project.
Avatar by James Cameron. Or Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko. Oh wait, I mean Tom Siddell.
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