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2012-10-29, 10:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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[3.5] Factotum-Spellthief-Chameleon. Please help
Hello playgrounders.
After a few years long break, I'm finally playing D&D again.
I'm trying to get into chameleon through factotum, and I was wondering if it could be worth dipping spellthief for master spellthief, and if caster levels from factotum's arcane dilettante would stack with the others.
My idea was making a support character, skillmonkey-ing and making (ab)use of the reduced spell levels of some arcane/divine Prc's spell lists for buffing.
Should I go straight factotum until I get into chameleon? Straight spellthief and taste the infamous CL30's of master spellthief? Maybe dip spellwarp snipper in the build and burn a feat in the martial stance that grants some SA and blast a little bit too?
I'm really open to any advice, but since I'm new in the group and haven't seen them playing yet, I can't tell how optimized the party is.
Thank you in advance for the help, and please excuse my poor English, It's not my first languaje.Last edited by Hello-Cthulhu; 2012-10-29 at 12:24 PM.
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2012-10-29, 11:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Factotum-Spellthief-Chameleon. Please help
The most typical factotum/chameleon goes factotum 8 for cunning surge and then advances in chameleon from there. Spellthief could be reasonable if you've planning on taking your first level in chameleon at 6, but I wouldn't recommend the 4 levels of it you'd need for master spellthief. Still, if you're planning on entering at 6th you probably don't need more than 3 levels in factotum, and a 1 level dip in spellthief for sneak attack and such could be useful.
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2012-10-29, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Factotum-Spellthief-Chameleon. Please help
Without another casting class (or taking Spellthief to 9), you won't qualify for Master Spellthief.
Dex
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2012-10-29, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Factotum-Spellthief-Chameleon. Please help
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2012-10-29, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Factotum-Spellthief-Chameleon. Please help
That's between you and your DM, I guess. But remember, you lose the benefit of a feat if you don't currently qualify for it. If you are counting on always having a second level spell stolen, then I hope your DM sends you a never ending string of disposable 3-4th level casters.
Dex
SpoilerRegarding my Necrotic Apprentice trick:
Regarding my Non-Epic Hidecarved Dragon:
Check out the Versatile Domain Generalist.
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2012-10-30, 08:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Factotum-Spellthief-Chameleon. Please help
Ok, I think I get it.
CL from spellthief adds to chameleon CL and vice-versa after taking master spellthief, but spellcasting from the chameleon Prc does not qualify for the feat, so no 1 level dip into spellthief.
Thank you guys!