ABR Discussion Thread XVI: Matters of Futures Imperfect

[Beans]

Yeah, well, that title is kinda hard to remember.

Btw, is it supposed to just cut out (sort of) at the end of Moskau?


Beans; need reason to include you rather than just an annoyed thing that came out of the ground to be soon forgotten

Hm. I need to be somehow able to have something they need... what would they want from an undead mind-flayer?
Possibly some knowledge of... oh bugger it something.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Btw, is it supposed to just cut out (sort of) at the end of Moskau?

Not really, but the file got the last second or two chopped off when I uploaded it. It would have just faded out after that last "hey" you hear.

[Keris]

Damn! I always thought I understood English..

Well, technically it currently means uncivilised. But I stand by its etymological roots! A barbarian is one who goes "Bar-bar-bar"!

Hm. Here's my idea.
All the ruckus with Dark Lord Bright has awoken Thryza, who was buried somewhat nearby, a bit further uphill. He pops up and immediately starts to blearily yell at them for waking him, calling them "insufferable topsiders." Finally coming to his undead senses, he looks at them and asks, "Who the hells are you, then?"

What needs to be fixed/improved?
EDIT: I see a need for plot-moving in it. But how to fill that need...?

Your mountain home has been occupied by the Shades. You now seek to clear it of these devil-spawn, so you can get back to sleep.

And if you do want to stick with Thryza, then I'd advise thinking about motivations in FFF 2: Future Imperfect, as FFF is building up towards winding down at the moment.

[memnarch]

Knowledge of a smallish undead army in the hill which you tell us about? idk.

[Shades of Gray]

@BRC and Crimsonangel: Crimson appears as a crew member in the Skornbail Incident. I have a perfect comic, but it requires that we wait until the gang has beaten the second level.

[Keris]

@BRC and Crimsonangel: Crimson appears as a crew member in the Skornbail Incident. I have a perfect comic, but it requires that we wait until the gang has beaten the second level.

Wait, you mean the New Years cameos were canon?

Hmmm... need some way to hand-wave Dekopin's involvement with what I've already worked out about her background.

[Ninja Chocobo]

For other people add you to their comics, they need to think that there is a need for your character to be there. You need think of something you can do to advance the plot, and more importantly, a good reason to be doing it. If people think you have a character with a role to fulfil and a legitimate reason to fill it, then they will put you in their comics.

Let me draw your attention to this comic.
I worked hard on this comic, took over two hours to draw and much longer to envisage. You will notice that during it I inserted a sword of reasonable size into Gremlin.

There were three comics following mine, none of which included me, which in and of itself was unsurprising. What was surprising is that they failed even to include the sword. Swords are not difficult to draw. I had a well-made comic with a good reason for its existence, and it was summarily ignored.

[Keris]

I didn't ignore it, Gremlin did. Take it up with him.

And my point was regarding introduction comics, not continuation of plot comics. If someone doesn't like what you've done, they will ignore it. No matter how hard you worked on it, or how important it is to your character, people can be irritatingly lazy sometimes.

[Ninja Chocobo]

I didn't ignore it, Gremlin did. Take it up with him.

As did Jason Doomsblade and Megadoomer (ironically).

And my point was regarding introduction comics, not continuation of plot comics. If someone doesn't like what you've done, they will ignore it. No matter how hard you worked on it, or how important it is to your character, people can be irritatingly lazy sometimes.

Thing is, Gremlin actually acknowledged the comic, but neglected to depict the sword. Unfortunately, this comic's been 404'd in the archive.

[Shades of Gray]

The New Years comics were canon. Look at the last comic, it had them doing the countdown, then him in Schizian territory (part of the plot)

[Keris]

The New Years comics were canon. Look at the last comic, it had them doing the countdown, then him in Schizian territory (part of the plot)

Yeah, I just didn't think it would be when I signed Dekopin up, it being a New Year special. I mean, there's no reason why Dekopin couldn't be there, just no real reason why shy would.

Then again, her mischief tends to be of the "just as planned" variety. I mean, she got Fayte to put a Rollerskate at the top of the stairs about a fortnight before you guys even knew about the Vendetta. She could well have, I don't know, passed Zenos his drink, or built up the static charge in the ship with her lightning, leading to the computer malfunction, leading to the teleport. Probably still because of the Catgirl. Or maybe because the Skornbail Incident will lead to another sequence of events that cause even more hilarity...

[The Gremlin]

NC, I'm really sorry about ignoring the sword back then. I was kind of a noob back then, always copy-pasting my comics. Sorry.
Also, I guess I'll make the thread. However, because the odds of me being online when the new thread is needed are slim, I'll just leave the title for whoever replaces me.
Avatar Battle Royale XVII: 40% Spam, 55% Random Discussion, 5% Meaningful.
Or, if that's too long: Avatar Battle Royale XVII: 95% Spam, 5% Meaningful.
Also: CA left? I'd argue that he should stay, but I have no idea why he even departed.

[Keris]

Also: CA left? I'd argue that he should stay, but I have no idea why he even departed.

Beans decided to consider joining ABR, and had criticized CrimsonAngel's OotS style comic at one point. So now CrimsonAngel claims that he has to leave any thread Beans is in. He even posted in Friendly Banter, asking how he can "Kick out the person who kicked me out."

And, factoring in the length of page left, and the relatively small amount of time I have to spend in college tomorrow (2 out of the usual 6 hours. I love only doing Maths, Physics and More Maths...), can I make the new thread if Gremlin's not online?

[memnarch]

I'd say go ahead, unless Lying gets it first; he wanted to do this one after all.

[The Gremlin]

Beans decided to consider joining ABR, and had criticized CrimsonAngel's OotS style comic at one point. So now CrimsonAngel claims that he has to leave any thread Beans is in. He even posted in Friendly Banter, asking how he can "Kick out the person who kicked me out."

And, factoring in the length of page left, and the relatively small amount of time I have to spend in college tomorrow (2 out of the usual 6 hours. I love only doing Maths, Physics and More Maths...), can I make the new thread if Gremlin's not online?

Okay. I'll read the criticism, but I get the feeling that CA completely overreacted. Very few things merit that level of immaturity.
/\Yeah, but he got to make an ABR thread before.
EDIT: Woah. It looks like Beans just offered some criticism. Then, the only other critical post he made was when TnD made some perfectly honest criticism and CA whined and said he'd 'go and set his hand on fire'. You are supposed to encourage criticism, not whine about it!
And Keris, you can go ahead.Just try to use my title.

[memnarch]

Criticism is good. It keeps your ego in check and helps improve your art, something one should always strive for as an artist.

[Green-Shirt Q]

Alright, I'm going to make a comic bringing the Qs onto the scene. Should I just assume that blowing a hole in the fortress or creating a hole by crashing the ship into it and destroying it is simply immposible? Because knowlage that I don't have to would seriously affect how the Qs enter the scene.

[Nameless]

What's up with these soul eating thingies?

[Lyinginbedmon]

I'm gonna be busy at college for about another hour and would very much appreciate it if no-one else grabbed the next thread, so if we hit page 50 keep gabbing until either the mods close it or the new thread is made.

[The Gremlin]

What's up with these soul eating thingies?

Well,, you kinda jumped in the middle of it, but we decided that rather than eat souls, they'd catch souls. See, we're talking about what the Ethereal Plane's gonna be like, and we decided that it'd be where the souls who aren't at rest go. Look through the last few pages, it should be there.
So, I'm back. Sorry, Keris.

[Szilard]

I have a comic Idea, and I'll make the comic after school is over.

[The Gremlin]

Wow, this thread is moving slowly.
Will do my comic after school.
EDIT: So, duh when does FI start?
EDIT EDIT: GAH!!! I am going mad with anticipation! Somebody, POST!!!!!
EDIT EDIT EDIT: Okay, it looks like I'm gonna have to leave in about 20 minutes. If we haven't reached page 50 by then, I guess somebody else (preferably Keris)will get to make the thread.

[T-O-E]

More stuff:

Took forever to get those horns right.
I also imrpoved Chriky and the Dettas:

[The Gremlin]

More stuff:

Took forever to get those horns right.
I also imrpoved Chriky and the Dettas:

Thank the gods! No more editing!
I am still not in there! You have drawn the dettas twice, but never me!

[Kazul]

EDIT EDIT: GAH!!! I am going mad with anticipation! Somebody, POST!!!!!

Done!
Oh, and I understand your argumentation pretty well, trust me. The problem is that both of us have different vision of Ethereal plane and stuff. But my ideas aren't truly in finished form yet, so I guess I agree with yours. Either way, lets end this discussion already and get back to the topic o Future Imperfect.

So, what plans do you guys have for your positions in ALF resistance? I mean, we have like 5 or so PC commanders and yet hardly anyone has declared which one they serve under. Personally, I'd go with Olivers' motorbike gang, unless he has anything against it, that is.

[T-O-E]

Thank the gods! No more editing!
I am still not in there! You have drawn the dettas twice, but never me!

It's because cats are hard to draw and I'm lazy.
I'll do you next.

[The Gremlin]

It's because cats are hard to draw and I'm lazy.
I'll draw you next.

Yay!

Done!
Oh, and I understand your argumentation pretty well, trust me. The problem is that both of us have different vision of Ethereal plane and stuff. But my ideas aren't truly in finished form yet, so I guess I agree with yours. Either way, lets end this discussion already and get back to the topic o Future Imperfect.

So, what plans do you guys have for your positions in ALF resistance? I mean, we have like 5 or so PC commanders and yet hardly anyone has declared which one they serve under. Personally, I'd go with Olivers' motorbike gang, unless he has anything against it, that is.

Mainly, we just have NPCs serving under the commanders. I don't fight, I generally remain locked in my study searching for Minoblendy's cure. I'm the 'eccentric, really old guy'.
EDIT: By the gods, am I ever gonna be able top make the thread?!
EDIT EDIT: Hey, I seem to recall that somebody once opened a Discussion thread early. Anybody mind if I do that here? We're only, like, one post short of 50.
EDIT EDIT EDIT: With only a little time left before I gotta go, I'm on the verge of double-posting here.
EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: Please post! PLEEEASE?????
EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: Cookie to the next poster!
EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: Okay, I know I'm being obsessive, but this is very exciting to me! My first Discussion tread!

[chriky]

@Troll - Do you know what your character will look like?

[The Gremlin]

@Troll - Do you know what your character will look like?

Maybe a panda thing?
EDIT: That's it, I've cracked. Here's the new thread. Sorry, I was going insane.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Does this help at all Gremlin?