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2017-11-25, 07:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Of Freemasons, Flat Earth and Steampunk
God, why did I decide to watch this? I started to get annoyed at the bridge, the argument wasn't that the bridge was curved, the argument was that the towers were build perfectly straight (within an acceptable margin of error, so a few percents of a percent) and perpendicular to the Earth (again, to within a reasonable margin of error), and there was a measurable difference in the distance at the top and the bottom.
Then we got to the point of him to the point where he began to say that the flat earth theories used by Vsauce are wrong and literally no flat earthers believe them, despite the fact they're still being shared this year (and in flat earth sects unrelated to Flat Earth Society). Then the density explanation he gives DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT GRAVITY.
With regards to the rocket launch, I also read it as him claiming to have converted in order to get funding. I suspect he fully knows how insignificant the height he plans to reach is, but just wants to build steam powered rockets. Well I wish him good luck, and hope he survives (has the launch happened yet? I can't remember how time zones work).
EDIT: I had a brief look at the comments section and saw someone mentioning that apparently the ice wall couldn't be solid all the way to the ocean floor. I like it when people try to apply science from a completely illogical starting point and do good.
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2017-11-25, 04:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Of Freemasons, Flat Earth and Steampunk
Pikes Peak looms over a ~5,000 foot plain, so you get less than 9,000 feet of vertical. Still higher than 14,000.
And if you want to take pictures to prove the Earth is flat, you really need to fly a plane out and take pictures of the edge. Anything less won't qualify as proof.
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2017-11-25, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-25, 04:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-25, 05:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-25, 06:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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You can book skydiving for like...$200 or $300 and get up to at least 10,000 ft easy. There, you can get as good a look at the horizon as you want, without having to die as you'll have an experienced instructor controlling the parachute tied to your back.
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2017-11-26, 06:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Update: The launch is postponed till next week .
The article is seriously funny.
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2017-11-26, 09:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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While your movie would be somewhat of a slightly crazy remake of Astronaut Farmer, I don't think your chances are as bad as you think...
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2017-11-26, 09:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-26, 01:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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I remember a quite popular Flat Earther, who had put up some popular youtube videos "debunking" the Round Earth and got himself a solid fanbase, who, after a while, realised that he was mistaken. I found it very impressive that he could admit to himself that he had been wrong all this time.
Interesting enough, he was still a conspiracy theorist at heart, so the next few youtube videos were about the Flat Earth conspiracy - about their lies and hidden agendas and how they had brainwashed him. In essence, the exact same things he used to say about NASA, "the government" and teachers, he said now about his ex-fellow Flat Earthers.
(I can't remember the poor guy's name. Even though I adore the Flat Earthers, I can't actually take them serious).
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2017-11-26, 01:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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You realize that if this guy comes away believing in Round Earth, then all the Flat Earthers will disown him as part of the conspiracy trying to trick them, right?
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2017-11-26, 02:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
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My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
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2017-11-26, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-26, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-27, 09:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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mechanical problems with his "motorhome/rocket launcher"
While I do respect the enthusiastic amateur a fair bit, it's not jokingly called "not like rocketscience" for a reason. This is one of those (many) things where it matters whether you are an expert or not.
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2017-11-27, 01:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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TEKELI-LI!!! TEKELI-LI!!!
Nobody appreciated it when the FAA and bureaucracy finally saves someone's life
I can't stop trying to imagine their faces when the Suicide-Air-Cigarrete broke down after they were denied the permits. It's clear there's a Guardian Angel for Flat Earthers, and he sits atop the FAA(sic)
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2017-11-27, 03:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-27, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's seriously impressive. Scientific advocates of competing theories (i.e. actual "scientists") rarely break down and admit that opposing theories are conclusive (such as plate tectonics). I wonder if he was cured (or at least at symptom relief or some form of recovery) of some form of mental illness.
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2017-11-27, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-27, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Honestly, I really hope he succeeds, just because I want to live in a world where dreams as absurd as getting airborne on a rocket made out of a water boiler can come true.
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2017-11-27, 11:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-28, 06:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid."
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2017-11-28, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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I mean, yes, technically when they shut down a dangerous company they are saving lots of anonymous lives. But I'm suspicious they are doing it for the statistics more than for philanthropic reasons
Unless "bigotry" and "illiteracy" are now categorized as mental illnesses, I don't think becoming anti-scientific has anything to do with having a pathology. You can be sane and stupid, y'know?
But if he traveled to Central America, high chances are he would end up way above the 1,800 feet (over the "horizon" *). And I'm sure nobody wants that to happen
*Is it still an "horizon" if it's technically just another geographical border? Are "horizons" required to be merely conceptual entities? What is the point of calling the line over a fence a "horizon"?(sic)
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2017-11-28, 09:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-28, 09:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Bit of a small update, they're shutting his project down because it will possibly endanger pretty much everyone nearby, including himself. This will only give Flat-Earthers more fuel to go "THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW!"
If they'd let him go through with it, and predictably killed himself because he likely has the same understanding of rocket science and physics as he has on the planet's shape, Flat-Earthers would've gone and said "THE GOVERNMENT SABOTAGED HIS ROCKET!"
If he went through with it and managed to survive, and said the earth was round, Flat-Earthers would've gone "THE GOVERNMENT BRIBED HIM!"
If he went through with it, survived, and said the earth was flat, Flat-Earthers would've gone "WE TOLD YOU GUYS, WE WERE RIGHT! THIS NUTJOB WHO LAUNCHED HIMSELF 1800 FEET INTO THE AIR JUST PROVED SO!"
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2017-11-28, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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... I'm guessing this refers to the old urban legend that Columbus proved the world was round?
Because it's not true. Irving made it all up. Columbus was quite wrong - he believed the world to be significantly smaller in radius (about a third of the actual number, IIRC) than it was, and everyone in the European courts that he visited were right on the money on its size. Columbus was leading a suicidal mission that would probably have starved in the middle of the Atlanpacific Ocean had there not been a stopping point on the way.
(I have seen hypothesis - although I'm unsure of how well documented - that he might have known about previous voyages having found land and made it back; not necessarily the vikings but ships blown off course and the like - that led Columbus to know there was land within reach of his ships; but he remained convinced pretty much till his death that the land was indeed Japan, rather than a new continent)
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2017-11-28, 11:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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NASA didn't send a man to the Moon with their first rocket. This is probably just a proof-of-concept, something he can be confident works before going up hundreds of thousands of feet.
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I have several conflicting feelings about this. Bemusement in humanity, disappointment in humanity, slightly elevated hopes for California Man's survival...
It's a problem with all conspiracy theorists, really.
If anyone is willing to see a Flat Earther in action. Here's a video of one of them "debunking" the Vsauce video on the subject.
As a bio major, and someone who learns about history for fun, it bugs me a bit when people say things like this. Sure, it's a joke, but this simplification of what evolution by natural selection means, translated from descriptive to prescriptive, has become widespread in the past, damaging both society and its perception of the sciences.
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2017-11-28, 03:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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As far as I know, only the Portuguese *knew* the correct size of the Earth (so would anybody else who sailed long distances by "running the latitudes"*). What gets me is that the texts that they were arguing about include exactly how Eratosthenes measured the size of the Earth (you would have to make some adjustments since he had the advantage of using a spot on the equator). They certainly had enough time to send someone from Madrid to Toledo to check the angle of the Sun vs. Madrid (and thus check the size of the planet), but nobody bothered (unless they got the distance between Toledo and Madrid very, very wrong).
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* I'd expect some resistance from those who only sailed shorter distances by "running the latitudes". It might have been a more common trick than I've heard, and one of the reasons nobody listened to Columbus.Last edited by wumpus; 2017-11-28 at 03:39 PM.
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2017-11-28, 06:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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But Flat Earthers take it to an extreme and deny(or completely misunderstand) very basic scientific principles such as gravity.
Of course, they would also ignore the very simple fact that you would have to go much much higher to have a chance of detect the curvature of the earth.
Sometimes i wonder if many Flat Earthers just simply can't comprehend the size and scope of the Planet Earth.
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2017-11-28, 08:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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