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    Can we get Halley Berry as Janine? Or is she not muscular enough? For some reason I picture Janine as having lots of muscles.
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    ...but he's not handsome enough...
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    You were right the whole time, you know. Cloudkill is an incredibly dangerous spell and Dax shouldn't have invented it, at least not in this time and place. But I think Serrin's thoughts and mindset with this spell are pretty in-character for her. I can explain why, but I want to hear what you guys think about all the characters and their opinions!

    Also, guess why Serrin isn't too worried about Cloudkill while Disjunction scares the crap out of her. That one shouldn't be too hard.
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    Having a major "Oh... Crud" moment here. Does Radic really have that low of a Sense Motive?

    EDIT: Disunction? I'm gonna guess... I dunno. Radic is correct though.
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    What's Disjunction do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzybobnewt View Post
    What's Disjunction do?
    Okay, I'll mention the disjunction thing: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magesDisjunction.htm

    Especially focus on this line: "Additionally, if an artifact is destroyed, you must make a DC 25 Will save or permanently lose all spellcasting abilities. (These abilities cannot be recovered by mortal magic, not even miracle or wish.)"

    See why that spell terrifies Serrin? But that's not all that can be analyzed from these past couple of comics. Come on, I do enough work as it is!

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    What's Disjunction do?
    Permanently destroys magic items that fail a will save.
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    Janine has major major major issues in her past. I don't really want to know all the details, but I do know that whoever abused her needs to die. NOW.
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    Ok Serrin's got access to one of the DEADLIEST spells in D&D....now I am really worried; but hey Fir got a snack out of the deal so no harm

    And at first I thought Serrin's fear of Disjunction had more to do with it's ability to strip off every buff (which mid to high level wizards rely on) at once, because using Disjunction (which only has a 20% chance of disjoining an artefact by a level 20 wizard) near an artefact is just asking for trouble. To be honest I think an anti magic field would be a more reasonable threat to Serrin.

    And I think that showing a killing spell to a king of land that despises your race amounts to too dumb to live.

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    And I think that showing a killing spell to a king of land that despises your race amounts to too dumb to live.

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    This isn't Kago, though.
    Well as seen by the shot of the Plavan section of the city, the anti-plavaan sentiment is not exactly an only-kago characteristic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Eclipse View Post
    Ok Serrin's got access to one of the DEADLIEST spells in D&D....now I am really worried; but hey Fir got a snack out of the deal so no harm

    And at first I thought Serrin's fear of Disjunction had more to do with it's ability to strip off every buff (which mid to high level wizards rely on) at once, because using Disjunction (which only has a 20% chance of disjoining an artefact by a level 20 wizard) near an artefact is just asking for trouble. To be honest I think an anti magic field would be a more reasonable threat to Serrin.
    It's one of the deadliest? I knew it was bad, but that bad?

    Serrin doesn't like anti-magic fields either, but anti-magic fields go away. A backfired Disjunction is forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Eclipse View Post
    Well as seen by the shot of the Plavan section of the city, the anti-plavaan sentiment is not exactly an only-kago characteristic.
    No but he's reporting it to the prince, who DOESN'T have that sentiment.

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    It's one of the deadliest? I knew it was bad, but that bad?

    Serrin doesn't like anti-magic fields either, but anti-magic fields go away. A backfired Disjunction is forever.
    Not really. I'm pretty sure there are stronger epic spells.

    Ice 9 would be the deadliest i've ever heard of (death to an entire plane) but that was a part of an FF parody.

    Cloudkill is particularly bad because it is, basically, poison gas, and is largely indiscriminate and highly damaging.
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    Well, yeah. I figured Serrin would be scared of a spell that messes up magic. The "separating" and "disjoining" parts probably mean something bad for the physics of the spells or enchantments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    It's one of the deadliest? I knew it was bad, but that bad?

    Serrin doesn't like anti-magic fields either, but anti-magic fields go away. A backfired Disjunction is forever.
    It kills almost instantly quite a lot of creatures (in the assumed D&D verse it is rare for a non-pc to get more than a few levels) and saving each round for at least seven minutes amounts to 70 saving throws and at least 1 con damage.. not even the Big T has that amount of Con, though the fact that it moves is a limiting factor.

    Still is one of the best conjuration spells, which is arguably the best magic school.

    To avoid bringing a Rules debate to a webcomic thread, is Serrin a specialist wizard or a generalist? I can't recall....

    Edit: The thing with disjunction is that for it to disjoin your own magic, you have to cast it near an artefact yourself, so it is would be extremely difficult ( D&D rules-wise at least, more if we take into acount Serrins fear of the spell) to have it affect her.

    Note that all this comments assumes that unless otherwise notated Aequar functions following D&D rules-set.

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    @Halftangible: Ok the prince himself doesn't share it; but I don't think other members of the court or his guards, would take well to a plavaan showing a deadly spell to the monarch.

    And concerning epic magic... it gets wonky, you can literally do whatever you want with it; but if you have already lost your magic, good luck researching an epic spell to change that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Eclipse View Post
    It kills almost instantly quite a lot of creatures (in the assumed D&D verse it is rare for a non-pc to get more than a few levels) and saving each round for at least seven minutes amounts to 70 saving throws and at least 1 con damage.. not even the Big T has that amount of Con, though the fact that it moves is a limiting factor.

    Still is one of the best conjuration spells, which is arguably the best magic school.

    To avoid bringing a Rules debate to a webcomic thread, is Serrin a specialist wizard or a generalist? I can't recall....

    Edit: The thing with disjunction is that for it to disjoin your own magic, you have to cast it near an artefact yourself, so it is would be extremely difficult ( D&D rules-wise at least, more if we take into acount Serrins fear of the spell) to have it affect her.

    Note that all this comments assumes that unless otherwise notated Aequar functions following D&D rules-set.
    Good point, especially if you use a magic spell to trap your targets in one place...

    Serrin's a generalist, but she's a Peakane, and the Peakane family is well-known for its Abjuration spells. So she's got a lot of Abjuration spells in her spellbook and she can identify them easily. Which adds another level to her fear of Disjunction.

    But come on, nobody's mentioned why it would be in-character for Radic to be worried about Cloudkill while Serrin isn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    Good point, especially if you use a magic spell to trap your targets in one place...

    Serrin's a generalist, but she's a Peakane, and the Peakane family is well-known for its Abjuration spells. So she's got a lot of Abjuration spells in her spellbook and she can identify them easily. Which adds another level to her fear of Disjunction.

    But come on, nobody's mentioned why it would be in-character for Radic to be worried about Cloudkill while Serrin isn't?
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    But come on, nobody's mentioned why it would be in-character for Radic to be worried about Cloudkill while Serrin isn't?
    Because Serrin dumped wisdom and Radic has at least an 18?
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    granted we've only known him for three or four strips now, but the sudden heel-face turn of the Goblin wizard seems kinda weird to me, in the period between two different strips he goes from "I'm a genius! i gotta show this to somebody or they will never believe me at the academy!" to "i just wanted to show someone, go away now you fair-skin i don't need you anymore."

    Though i will give him wanting to protect his spellbook, it's hard for another wizard to claim his spell as their own if it's only in his spellbook.
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    I appear to be the only person who noticed the subtle interactions of the familiars.

    Watch the expression of the weasel and the Goblin. XD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    granted we've only known him for three or four strips now, but the sudden heel-face turn of the Goblin wizard seems kinda weird to me, in the period between two different strips he goes from "I'm a genius! i gotta show this to somebody or they will never believe me at the academy!" to "i just wanted to show someone, go away now you fair-skin i don't need you anymore."
    I was thinking more "I want to show someone this new spell I made after lots of hard work!" to "I worked really hard on this and I'm using that fact as a crutch! I'm turning a blind eye to the potential and likely consequences!"
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    Uh oh. We have shades of mad wizard in the goblin here....

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    I'll go out on a limb and guess: Radic knows that spell has already been invented. And used. The creator and user probably dead. She doesn't want it rediscovered.

    In strip #756 we'll see the goblin about to succeed using a variation specific against non Plaavans.
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    Cloudkill is fun. Teleport to the top of a fortification. Disintegrate the roof. Cast cloudkill. It will now slowly sink and spread throughout the fortification, killing everyone within it.
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    I'm wondering if Serrin might HAVE an artefact.
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    I'm wondering if Serrin might HAVE an artefact.
    We still don't know what type of dagger it is she keeps in her spellbook. That might be it.
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