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2012-10-30, 08:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Mark of Cania and beating around the bush
I will start here...
SpoilerMark of Cania
Prerequisite: Brand of the Nine Hells, allegiance to Mephistopheles
Benefit: The passionate anger for which Mephistopheles is famed burns brightly in you. Each round when you miss on an attack roll or a target successfully saves against a spell, spell-like ability, or supernatural ability you have cast or used, you gain a cumulative +1 bonus on attack rolls, damage rolls, saves, and checks. This bonus lasts until you successfully hit a target or until a target fails a saving throw against one of your spells, spell-like abilities, or supernatural effects. For every +1 bonus you gain, you also take a -1 penalty to Armor Class. This penalty disappears when the bonus no longer applies.
Alright, so I would like the following things:
1) A way to attack many times with an absolute minimal chance of hitting my opponents.
2) A way to effectively ignore major penalties to AC.
3) A way to offensively use high attack rolls, damage rolls, saves and/or checks without hitting my opponents.
4) A way to reliably inflict damage or lethal effects on my opponents without hitting them or using spells, spell-like abilities or supernatural abilities that allow for saves.
Any ideas?Last edited by Ammutseba; 2012-10-30 at 02:43 PM.
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2012-10-30, 08:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2012
Re: Mark of Cania and beating around the bush
For attacks:
1. Drop prone
2. Use TWF untrained with two one handed exotic weapons you don't have proficiency for.
3. Close your eyes.
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2012-10-30, 10:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Aug 2012
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- Vacation in Nyalotha
Re: Mark of Cania and beating around the bush
Conjuration has a lot of spells that offer no save and deal variable damage (i.e. a damage roll)
as a bonus, almost all of those are area of effect, have a duration, and further hinder your opponents.
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2012-10-30, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mark of Cania and beating around the bush
Marvelous. I shall call it... Tantrum Fu.
And do not have saves? Thank you. I will poke around at the conjuration effects.
Can anyone think of ways to use saves and checks offensively without hitting opponents or forcing/allowing them to make saves?
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2012-10-30, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mark of Cania and beating around the bush
Assuming 'checks' is broad enough to include skill checks, you could use it as a means of enabling Diplomacy or Intimidate (it'll also make your Initiative score huge.) Also, I notice the text you quoted specifically says only 'Spells, spell likes, and supernaturals'- if you can find an Extraordinary ability that doesn't use and attack roll so it doesn't trip the 'hit a target' bit, you can blow up things with that and keep the Mark bonuses regardless of whether or not your victims save.
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2012-10-30, 03:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Nov 2011
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Re: Mark of Cania and beating around the bush
Keep in mind that this bonus is also applied to caster level checks to overcome Spell Resistance, effectively making it a non-issue.
The bonus also applies to Bull Rush checks. Combine this with a Dungeoncrasher Fighter and you can do a fair amount of damage (remember the bonuses to damage rolls).
Also, if I remember correctly, the bonus to damage will also give a bonus to ability damage rolls. This will most likely remove your bonuses, but not before you deal massive damage to an ability score.Currently running the Heroes of Circumstance campaign!
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2012-10-30, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mark of Cania and beating around the bush
Combine this with Aura of Perfect Order. Continually take 11 on something where 11 is a failure, never ever do anything that has even a chance of removing the bonus, and then cast Magic Missile for over 9000 damage. At caster level 1.
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2012-10-30, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mark of Cania and beating around the bush
I believe you have to be a Baatezu to take those feats.
There's a ToB stance that lets you take 11 or 12 on attacks. Take 12 on attack you won't make (non-proficient, weapon to big, power attacking), so no accidental crits.
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GODDAMN NINJASLast edited by Spuddles; 2012-10-30 at 03:43 PM.
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2012-10-30, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-30, 05:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2009
Re: Mark of Cania and beating around the bush
Imp, Invisibility at will, save against your own invis. It's one of the two ways to get arbitrarily large truenaming.
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