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2011-10-14, 08:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
I'm working on a game called Wonderland, which blends the classic works of Lewis Carrol with Lovecraftian horror, imagery that looks like something out of Hellraiser or Silent Hill, and several concepts from the amazing JAGS Wonderland. It is also heavily influenced by American McGee's Alice and its sequel.
Its system has a core mechanic inspired Grimm RPG, a damage system inspired by Savage Worlds, and several other features based on the mechanics of Basic Roleplaying.
Constructive feedback and criticism are highly appriciated.Last edited by Chainsaw Hobbit; 2011-10-29 at 12:46 PM.
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2011-10-14, 10:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: JAGS Wonderland, Re-Imagined and Adapted to a Homebrew System
No comments? Why?
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2011-10-16, 03:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: JAGS Wonderland, Re-Imagined and Adapted to a Homebrew System
I added a few more pages of content. Still no comments?
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2011-10-17, 02:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: JAGS Wonderland, Re-Imagined and Adapted to a Homebrew System
Possibly everyone assumes your sig still links to the Stain.
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2011-10-18, 05:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: JAGS Wonderland, Re-Imagined and Adapted to a Homebrew System
It sounds like a nice setting, and one I'd like to play in. Would you have any interest in GMing a game of this on here?
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2011-10-18, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-18, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: JAGS Wonderland, Re-Imagined and Adapted to a Homebrew System
Yep. I stopped at the point marked 'GMs only', though I did read enough to make a character.
One small nitpick, though: Why is it that Multi-Tasker is limited to female characters?
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2011-10-18, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-18, 04:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: JAGS Wonderland, Re-Imagined and Adapted to a Homebrew System
Perhaps make it take an extra slot? Most women may be better multi-taskers, but it probably shouldn't completely exclude the possibility that a man might also be one.
That said, it's your game, and the point is moot in my case anyway, as my character is female, but she doesn't have it in favor of others.
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2011-10-18, 04:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-18, 04:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: JAGS Wonderland, Re-Imagined and Adapted to a Homebrew System
Probably they didn't want to set it up so that everything has to be whitelisted before you can use it, as that could cause problems with valid research sites they missed, and they haven't needed to add this to the blacklist.
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2011-10-24, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: JAGS Wonderland, Re-Imagined and Adapted to a Homebrew System
I've been getting a lot of work done on this, and a my associate has been doing a lot of sketching. I'm also working on a logo. Was thinking about setting the game apart from its "parent" by making the default setting Victorian England.
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2011-10-26, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
I added a bunch of point-form notes at the end, which I will later turn into nice, readable paragraphs. Why am I not getting more comments?
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2011-10-26, 10:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
You'd be getting more from me, but you warned me off reading past the character creation rules if I want to play.
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2011-10-26, 10:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-26, 11:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
Just a thought- you may want to proofread this quite a bit. For example, you state, and I quote "Wisdom represents willpower, common sense, observation skills, common sense, and deeper understanding."
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2011-10-27, 02:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: JAGS Wonderland, Re-Imagined and Adapted to a Homebrew System
Yeah, it sticks out like a sore thumb. No other perk or quirk is gender-locked, and it really doesn't make sense for it to be. Sure, statistically speaking women are generally better at multi-tasking, but men are also generally more athletic, but I don't see that perk being gender-locked.
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2011-10-28, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
Near the front of the book, I wrote an introductory story, which it is safe for players to read.
Also, Cody (who was doing art) has left the project for personal reasons. I am looking for a new artist.
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2011-10-28, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
I'll read over it when I'm on a computer that will view google docs again. Expect comments soonish.
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2011-10-28, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
Firstly, I got to throw myself in with the others in the talk about the multi-tasker perk.
Making it restricted to female characters only is discriminating in nature.
I know a general rule of thumb in society and specially in roleplaying games, is that discrimination is "sort of okay" as long as it goes towards men.
That doesn't make it the right thing to do, however, men can be excellent multi-taskers, unless you want to argue or insinuate that men cannot be multi-taskers, you should remove the restriction.
Now, reading through character generation:
Step 1:
Spoiler
How important are concepts to the gameplay?
I imagine they are very important, seeing how this game seems to build on horror, in which a more fleshed out character really becomes important.
However, the concept part of character creation does not reflect this; It simply tells the player to make up a concept and think about who they are, but gives no reward or incentives for doing so well.
Now, I don't have a suggestion on what to do right now (honestly, just reading character generation for now, would have to read it more throughoutly to make functional suggestions), but with some sort of reward for doing an interesting concept that is well fleshed out would be a bonus to the game in my opinion
Step 2:
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I like the layout of this section, each statistic having first what it represents, then what it is usefull for, and then examples of someone with 2 and someone with 7 in the statistic.
Except the already double mention of common sense under Wisdom, I see no problems with this section.
Step 3:
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Looks good, I would consider removing the "also" from "also rounded down" after the speed calculation.
It just seems more like someone speaking to you then an instruction, when you include the "also"
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Why do you suddenly switch from "you" to "they" under Rich?
It seems very out of place and makes the section harder to read.
See start of this post for my view on multi-tasker
Maybe sort this section in some way, like alphabetically, so it is easier to find a specific perk, or sort them into physical, social and mental perks, or both.
Step 5:
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Does Nonathletic have any mechanical influence?'
See Step 4 for my views on sorting this section as well
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Should handguns be dealing (2 x the dexterity check to hit), which is what it is currently saying, or should they deal (2 x (Dexterity check to hit - targets dexterity)).
As it is written now, someone with a high dexterity is hit less, but any hit is a massive one.
Last edited by Iceforge; 2011-10-28 at 04:29 PM.
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2011-10-28, 07:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
Is anyone interested in doing art for the project? I can't draw very well at all, and the current artist quit.
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2011-10-29, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-29, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
Last edited by Chainsaw Hobbit; 2011-10-29 at 12:46 PM.
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2011-11-11, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
Just a bump, so Muse isn't discouraged. I like JAGS Wonderland, and this seems an interesting spin.
My Homestuck role is Thane of Space of the Land of Insanity and Frogs.
The Malkavians would be proud.
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Thanks to Mokipi for the Exalted avatar!
For avatars of your own, he's on White Wolf.
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2011-11-11, 02:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-12, 03:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
Maaaan, I hate Victorian London. Mostly I hate everything about the victorian era, and London was the cultural capital of the world, soooo... Yeah. Why do people like anything about it, anyway?
*I recognize that I am an outlyer and you may not wish to change your game around one strange person from the internet.
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2011-11-20, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
I just added quite a lot of content, and am probably adding more as you read this. Check it out. You can watch me write in real-time if you're lucky.
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2011-12-13, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
I added some more stuff. I really hope people are still interested. I'm staring to lose hope.
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2011-12-13, 06:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Horrific Alice in Wonderland RPG
I am, but I'm still on a computer that won't access google docs.
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2011-12-13, 08:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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