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Thread: {3.5} sword master
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2011-04-29, 09:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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{3.5} sword master
what would be the ulitmate dmg build around a basterd sword. all fighter for all teh weapon feats
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2011-04-29, 09:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
You want the highest damage with single-classed fighter with bastard swords?
Hmm, getting Pounce for a pure fighter is a bit tricky, but one could try to argue for Psionic Tattoo of Psionic Lion's Charge working by RAW. Then just standard charger stuff should work okay.Quotes:Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.Spoiler
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2011-04-29, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
Well you could go the shield based two-weapon fighting route with agile shield fighter, or you could use the bastard sword two-handed and do the standard power attack cheese.
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2011-04-29, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
also no tomb of battle
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2011-04-29, 09:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-04-29, 09:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
Since you don't have Tome of Battle, you're best going two-handed with the Bastard Sword. Power Attack, Improved Bull Rush, Shock Trooper for charging. If you're stuck with straight fighter, you can spend feats on Weapon Focus, Weapon Spec, Melee Weapon Mastery (slashing) and eventually Weapon Supremacy.
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2011-04-29, 09:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
Can you switch from a bastard sword to a greatsword?
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2011-04-29, 09:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
Well with those restrictions you have very little past some charge feats to use. Leap attack + Power attack + Shock Trooper + Valorous weapon + Cleave + Great Cleave = if its within range and has less than your power attack mod x4 +str mod x2 in hit points it vaporizes.
Shock Trooper is the key for max power attack for no to hit penalty. Just understand you are going to get hit a lot. Hence the next area to focus on.
I would increase your attacks with either Karmic Strike or Rolibar's Gambit and Combat reflexes + Hold the line. Also you can increase your attack bonus on attacks of opportunity by 4 with a feat but the name escapes me.
Hold the line + Karmic strike is a sick melee combo you get an attack as they charge you and you get another one if they hit. Also with max power attack you should out damage most things of equal lvl.
Pounce would be awesome but other than playing odd races or a barbarian dip its hard to get on a fighter.I must not fear.
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2011-04-29, 09:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
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2011-04-29, 09:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
Does it have to be all fighter, all the time? A level of barbarian, maybe one of exotic weapon master, would really help.
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2011-04-29, 09:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
How about this:
Why don't you tell us the sources you have access to, and what you are trying to achieve, and we'll tell you the best way to do it?
Like, "Deal lots of damage in melee via martial prowess with a big sword of some kind"
and then you list the sources you have, and we'll tell you how best to do it?
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2011-04-29, 09:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-04-29, 09:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-04-29, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-04-29, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
It is more of a fluff thing at this point. The damage difference is eventually so small that it is not a big deal which you choose (bastard swords have a small benefit that if you can't use one hand you can wield it in one hand for the standard -4 prof penalty rather than not being able to wield it at all while the greatsword does slightly more damage. Choices).
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2011-04-29, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
i ahve access to all books. i just dont like the stuff out of tome of battle
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2011-04-29, 09:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
Does it have to be single classed? Does it have to be fighter?
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2011-04-29, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-04-29, 10:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Lagren: I took Livers Need Not Apply, only reflavoured.
DocRoc: to?
Lagren: So whenever Harry wisecracks, he regains HP.
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2011-04-29, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-04-29, 10:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2011-04-29, 10:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
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2011-04-29, 10:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
I can let someone play a straight fighter, but I can't call such a character a "swordmaster".
But hey, you can actually squeeze some damage even from TWF bastard swords if you want to. Weirder things have happened.Quotes:Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.Spoiler
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2011-04-29, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
I'd really, strongly recommend Fighter 12/Ronin 8 to you, given your stated books and preferences for a heavy Fighter focus with a Bastard Sword. Bonzai Charge is fun and useful for your concept, and Ronin requires Bastard Sword.
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2011-04-29, 10:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
Last edited by Mayhem; 2011-04-29 at 10:17 PM.
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2011-04-29, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-04-29, 10:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: {3.5} sword master
Bonzai charge is a charge that's artificially prevented from reaching it's normal size, right?
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2011-04-29, 10:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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...or, you know:
This is a big part of the beef some people have with ToB - more than any other supplement, splatbook or alternate system, many people feel that others need to justify why they don't use it. My usual list of exclusions in build requests includes no ToB, MoI, psionics, FR or Eberron specific, or Dragon Mag. You know the only one that ever gets questioned regularly? You guessed it...My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2011-04-29, 10:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-04-29, 10:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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