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Thread: Use of the word 'the' in titles
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2012-11-11, 12:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Use of the word 'the' in titles
For some reason I'm just not feeling a whole lot of difference in titles with or without "the."
When reading through Gwyn Chan's list there, the only one that stood out was mountains of madness. At mountains of madness doesn't work for being grammatically incorrect, but the rest of them feel like they could go either way and not make any difference at all.
I guess I just started ignoring the word "the" unless it was heavily emphasized or noticeably absent; as in the title (or sentence) fails grammatically without it.I am not seaweed. That's a B.
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2012-11-11, 12:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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At mountains of madness isn't grammatically correct. Nothing about the prepositional phrase demands that the noun phrase have a specifier. At Mountains of Madness makes it sound more abstract, rather than in a specific mountain range.
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2012-11-11, 12:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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At Mountains of Madness is grammatically correct. If Mountains of Madness is a place, it's perfectly possible to be there.
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2012-11-11, 12:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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It does, however, sound somewhat like a restaurant or a diner.
"Great savings at Mountains of Madness! Our prices are INSANE! Shur nab shur-nab Shub-Niggurath!"Si non confectus, non reficiat.
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2012-11-11, 12:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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You go check the savings, I'll be in Sanity.
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2012-11-11, 12:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Proof that, as so often, reality is stranger than fiction. Why Sanity?
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2012-11-11, 12:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-11, 01:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Si non confectus, non reficiat.
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2012-11-11, 02:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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I suppose that's true.
It really doesn't work as a title though, especially for the work it would be attached to. Maybe if "Mountains of Madness" was the name of a town in the miskatonic valley?
Great piece, btw. Started getting a little claustrophobic in a well lit room in the middle of a sunny day the first time I read it.
I can't really say much for Lovecraft's characters but his ability to convey atmosphere was top-notch, IMO.Last edited by Kelb_Panthera; 2012-11-11 at 02:02 AM.
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2012-11-11, 05:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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When it comes to "Mountains of Madness", the best thing to do is probably drop both the "at" and the "the". "Mountains of Madness" is a great title, although it does seem to suggest - to me, at least, some sort of introspective philosophical tract, rather than a primordial horror. I think if you're going to keep the "at", you need the "the" there too to make sense of the phrase.
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2012-11-11, 10:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Unless you're not specifying Mountains of Madness as either a specific place (as Rawhide suggests) or a specific mountain. If referring to multiple mountains, therefore multiple areas, this could be (the story of what happened) At Mountains of Madness.
That being said, I think this is an artistic choice by the author. Sure, Mountains of Madness could have been the title, but he just decided on "At" instead.
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2012-11-11, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-11, 12:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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I have never read any of these and, not knowing what the actual titles are, am going to go through this list and say which of the alternatives sounds better to me (if one of them does stand out to me, which isn't always).
Earthblood
Everborn (if one person); The Everborn (if a category of people)
Dark Worlds (if only some of them); The Dark Worlds (if all of them)
At the Mountains of Madness
The Ringmakers of Saturn
Ringworld
-either one-
To Escape the Stars (honestly, without "the" it makes me think of outrunning movie stars)
The Kingdoms of Light
Bewitched and Betrayed (unless about a category of such people)
Honoured Enemy
the title that includes "the"
Revenge of the Rose (unless "Rose" is being used as a person's first name)
The World Fall
-either one-
EDIT: @OP- you have a typo on the "Magic" page on the wiki near the top; you have Ice-Darkness listed as opposites instead of Light-Darkness.Last edited by Fiery Diamond; 2012-11-11 at 12:46 PM.
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2012-11-11, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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