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    A hilariously funny webcomic that i felt deserved a thread, and a chance for people to discover.
    Read on and find the source of quotes such as

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    "Diplomatic Weapon #1! Money!"

    "WHY IS THERE A (censored) PINK EAGLE IN MY FACE?"
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    Hero Oh Hero is great, yeah.
    Though I prefer Noah's Arc.
    The adventure in the cow's head was hilarious.
    And his mirror-girlfriend is pretty amusing too.
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    Has it finally stopped restarting over and over again?

    I kept reading it, but the author constantly seemed to be stopping and restarting it from the beginning without knowing where its going, and I just dropped off from it because of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    Has it finally stopped restarting over and over again?

    I kept reading it, but the author constantly seemed to be stopping and restarting it from the beginning without knowing where its going, and I just dropped off from it because of that.
    Not sure what you mean.
    As far as I know the comic got restarted once.

    Or are you talking about the changing main character?
    Then yes, it's still cycling between the three of them.
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    I got about 340 comics in and just gave up. I feel like after 340 comics I should at least have a handle on who the characters are and what the overall story is supposed to be, but there's been none of that at all. I've said this before about other stories, but being cryptic is not an acceptable substitute for an actual plot. There's probably a decent payoff if you're willing to read the whole thing to get to it, but it's too much of an investment for me.
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    I'm sure HOH had a previous thread that fell by the wayside. Though it might have started as an APTGG thread.

    Anyway: the way to read HOH is to see it not as one comic, but as three separate comics, unrelated except for being in the same "universe" , that are posted alternatively.

    Kind of like The Meek for this. Yeah the three stories are supposed to converge eventually, but since nobody knows when it will actually happen, it's best enjoyed if you forget about this and see each separate storyline as standalone.
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    I got about 340 comics in and just gave up. I feel like after 340 comics I should at least have a handle on who the characters are and what the overall story is supposed to be, but there's been none of that at all. I've said this before about other stories, but being cryptic is not an acceptable substitute for an actual plot. There's probably a decent payoff if you're willing to read the whole thing to get to it, but it's too much of an investment for me.
    Yeah, i can see how its possible to suffer from character overload if you read though the story normally.
    It can be easy to forget whom is whom when each chapter jumps to a different story in the same world.

    Likely its not a bad idea to do as Gez suggest, and read each story seperatly.
    Burks are likely not a bad place to start. Its not like the initial plot is to hard to figure out.
    We have Burk who wants to become a Hero, and punch Villains.
    We have Pablo who wants to fix the issue of Liveria's trade routes being robbed.
    And we have the Aristocrat who wants to become a hero for slightly less altruistisk reasons.
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    Yeah, so far the three story lines can be read seperatly.
    There's some connection, but that's mostly in the background. (Heroland News in Tobi's story, the investigator guy showing up in Burk's, Magilante gets mentioned a few times I think...)
    I think there's even a navigation bar to read only a specific story.

    Edit: Also, Mini-Cha is friggin cute.
    I don't trust them one bit.
    That Nightshade Hero guy's suspicious too.
    Probably a vampire or involved in the conspiracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Hero Oh Hero is great, yeah.
    Though I prefer Noah's Arc.
    The adventure in the cow's head was hilarious.
    And his mirror-girlfriend is pretty amusing too.
    Me too. I really enjoy the whole introduction to Magic world. Second to that is Tobi, with her not fitting in the world shtick, and her robot mannequin body guard. It's quite possible that his identity is the 3rd most wanted man on the world. Also as a Patreon, the side stories are interesting, but not crucial.

    Burk story is Ok, but I like it the least.

    BTW Think Noah is Asexual. His manual being female, is probably because he is closer to his mother than anything girl related.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    Has it finally stopped restarting over and over again?

    I kept reading it, but the author constantly seemed to be stopping and restarting it from the beginning without knowing where its going, and I just dropped off from it because of that.
    I don't think it restarted more than once? I could be wrong. There was A Path to Greater Good (APTGG).

    That said, the restarted part was in my opinion much more enjoyable. Author went over new story dropping much of what I'd consider extranoues elements. Example Look at Burk meets Pablo panel in APTGG, there was a whole mini subplot about Burk meeting Gang Rule Town boss and making some mediocre dialoge. Instead in HOH, you just see Burk smashing a window and pinning the boss to the ground.

    So honestly, I think we could use a few more restarts or at least a more reductionist eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -D- View Post
    BTW Think Noah is Asexual. His manual being female, is probably because he is closer to his mother than anything girl related.
    Yeah, probably.
    I mostly call her Noah's girlfriend because it amuses me.

    Also, I'm still not convinced Ciel is originally part of Noah's power.
    Part of it is her design, but at times she comes off as too... independent/free willed* and manipulative.
    I'm not actually sure she has Noah's best interest in mind.

    Mind you, I'm not saying she's malevolent, but she might be in this for her own entertainment.
    Wether Ciel's hijacking Noah's magic, she got stuck to it somehow or she really was created as a UI- she wants something out of this interaction.
    And if it is amusement.

    Tl;Dr: I think there's more to Ciel than Noah's magic.

    *For allegedly being a glorified user interface.
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    I do think all the stories are awesome in their own way.
    Its kinda impressive that the author managed to ensure that im disapointed when the story switches, no matter whom im following.
    Even when its Tobi, whom i myself think has the weakest story.

    Noah meanwhile is hilariously apathetic, and a great contrast to Burke.
    But he works great because of is supporting cast.
    I dont think Ciel is more than the physical manifestation of his magic though.

    As for the Nightshade Hero, then i do think he is legit.
    I dont there were a need for going though the whole deal of asking Mini-Chan for files on Burk, if he was actually involed in anything shady.
    He can easily be what he appears to be. An actual hero with a high degree of curiosity and perception.
    I mean Burk does stand out like a sore thumb for anyone with ½ a brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Yeah, probably.
    I mostly call her Noah's girlfriend because it amuses me.

    Also, I'm still not convinced Ciel is originally part of Noah's power.
    Part of it is her design, but at times she comes off as too... independent/free willed* and manipulative.
    I think Ciel is kind off the mirror of Noah. He's an introverted and apathetic boy; she's comparatively extroverted and dynamic. Noah is extremely bad at reading people, empathizing with them, and guessing how they'd react, leading him to frequently insult and antagonize others unwittingly; Ciel is hyperaware and when she does tease Noah (the only person with which she can interact), it's fully deliberate, with complete and accurate understanding of how Noah will respond. Basically, Ciel is everything Noah is not; or at least not enough.
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    Yeah, for all the ussues with HoH pacing, it's hard to fault it with its tri-weekly issues. Not to mention current daily issues are great.

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    The sky stroke hero looks an awful lot like Burke, no? The name even refers to how he entered the comic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kornaki View Post
    The sky stroke hero looks an awful lot like Burke, no? The name even refers to how he entered the comic...
    I doubt it. Most likely he is a foil for Burk.

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    I doubt it. Most likely he is a foil for Burk.
    Maybe he's the Nale to Burk's Elan?
    Nah. Krub is a stupid name.

    Also, I don't understand why Pablo is against Burk's plan.
    It's genius.
    Absolutely unfailable.
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    It is kinda dumb.
    Burk is about as subtle as a brick sandwitch.
    But thats of course why he hangs out with Pablo.
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    ♪Someone has a crush...♪
    Also, that plan is as bad as Burk's.
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    Well.. the plan itself is as such good enough
    The problem is that Piper actually got a massive crush on the "Nightshade Stud"..
    Poor Pablo. He is the only proffesional guy with ½ a brain there.
    On the other hand he did get enough firepower to handle most issues when, and not if, things get violent.
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    It is kinda dumb.
    Burk is about as subtle as a brick sandwitch.
    But thats of course why he hangs out with Pablo.
    On surface level yes. But in a story, starting a fight is a great way to move the plot forward

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    Well.. the plan itself is as such good enough
    The problem is that Piper actually got a massive crush on the "Nightshade Stud"..
    Poor Pablo. He is the only proffesional guy with ½ a brain there.
    On the other hand he did get enough firepower to handle most issues when, and not if, things get violent.
    Well, if he had better companions violence might be more of an „if“.

    Also, Tobi time!
    Er, Ms. Paladin? That's a terrible sales pitch.
    Usually being wanted alive is a good thing, not a „getting thrown into the lightless, bottomless maw of the abyss is the least of your worries" thing.
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    Well.. its why i love the Paladin.
    She is all tough love and brutal honesty :P
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    Heh. Three is a great guy.

    Either that or he stays with Tobi because she is unlikely to realize his nefarious plans before it is too late.
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    I love Tobi and Three. I especially love how Tobi actually asked Three his opinion on things.
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    I think the author directly revealed that 3 is the last doll made by the founder of the Global order.
    And some rather clever people spotted that its pretty likely he is the same as Tobi's grandpa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    I think the author directly revealed that 3 is the last doll made by the founder of the Global order.
    And some rather clever people spotted that its pretty likely he is the same as Tobi's grandpa.
    That would explain why he sticks with her.
    He recognized her.
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    So the door can only be opened by you, or anyone willing to cut your hand off your dead body. I don't know if I would feel THAT much safer with a bunch of loot in my room.

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    That would explain why he sticks with her.
    He recognized her.
    We even get a subtle little hint here from the man himself
    http://www.neorice.com/hoh_tobi_335#comments
    And i quote "The dolls are OBLIGATORY"

    But yeah, it suddenly does explain why 3, our of all people, decides to suddenly follow Tobi around and protect her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kornaki View Post
    So the door can only be opened by you, or anyone willing to cut your hand off your dead body. I don't know if I would feel THAT much safer with a bunch of loot in my room.
    My, how paranoid.
    Expecting others to kill you for your loot.
    Hides saw behind back and whistles innocently...
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    Meh, I'm kinda cold fish on this whole "Escape the Room filled with Murderhobos" thing. Too many rules, too much exposition. Get to the stabbing

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