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2012-08-20, 05:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-20, 05:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
I feel like this entire thread could just be summed up in the fact that an entire category of Truenamer abilities were printed without DCs to use, in a class that is all about it's DCs.
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2012-08-20, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Speak for yourself. I would love to see Truenamer fixed, even if the result is a still-suboptimal Tier 5. Shadow magic does nothing for me. And if they reprinted TOM I would really, really badly want them to resort the Binder vestiges, putting them in level order rather than alphabetical, so you can find all the vestiges you're allowed to bind in one place (and then do Magic of Incarnum with the soulmelds segregated by class).
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2012-08-20, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
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2012-08-20, 07:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
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2012-08-22, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Not sure if anyone mentioned this in the previous 30-ish pages of posts, but RAW there is no way to recover your psicrystal if it is destroyed.
Hey, Druid. Stop complaining that the ToB is imba.
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2012-08-22, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
It's possible that was intentional, for added drama. It is a part of your mind after all.
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2012-08-22, 10:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Last edited by The Glyphstone; 2012-08-22 at 10:26 PM.
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2012-08-23, 01:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
good catch. no one has mentioned it.
if I were DMing, I'd let you cast "revive construct" as a 6th, since they already have one for outsider and undead. besides, psionic save game aside, psicrystals are hardly gamebreaking, so killing one off is something of an unneccessary measureI've got a new fantasy TTRPG about running your own fencing school in a 3 musketeers pastiche setting. Book coming soon.
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2012-08-23, 01:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-23, 07:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
I've got a new fantasy TTRPG about running your own fencing school in a 3 musketeers pastiche setting. Book coming soon.
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2012-08-23, 09:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
I would love to see a Truenamer rework in the printed version; but frankly I doubt it. Why would they spend money and/or time when they can simply send the file to the printers? It would take minutes at most. And I meant that as written Truenamer is disappointing.
I can't talk about my own experience as I've never played a Truenamer and only have to go by Zaqs "Handbook" and other peoples account. I know it can be played by RAW; but from my understanding you have to optimize more than the norm to simply work, sure with an Item Familiar, skill focus (Truenaming) an amulet of the silver tongue +10 and a custom Truenamin Item you can and probably will reach all the DC's; but it is still far more investment to simply use your class features as opposed to a charger who sinks similar resources (2 feats, let's say Power Attack and Leap Attack, less skill ranks (the jump check to activate Leap Attack is reasonable easy, I think about 20) a valorous weapon ("equivalent to the Truenaming Item) and some form of pounce. More ore less same investment; but much more effective at his chosen style.
That is why I think the Truenamer disappoints.
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2012-08-23, 09:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Of course. The amount of optimisation needed to get the Truenamer on par with tier five classes is just sad.
And I think Leap Attack is a DC 10 jump check. Yeah, just checked, it's a 10' jump. So because you're already charging, you'll often have the running start needed to make it a DC 10 jump.Jude P.
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2012-08-23, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
it is actually not a flat DC. you must jump at least 10 feet (if you jump with at least a 20 foot running start, then the DC is equal to the distance traveled (for a 10 foot jump, it's 10 ) but it actually is equal to the horizontal distance traveled
leap attack, despite its use with the traditional vanilla ubercharger becomes the most fun (in my opinion) when combined with a couple of things:
monk levels
drunken master
boosts to movement speed
drunken master's stagger ability lets you change directions in a charge. leap attack lets you combine a charge with a jump. jump checks are modified by what your movement speed is (+4 for every 10 feet it is above 30)
this is the most fun with the 3.0 drunken master from sword and fist since its movement speed goes up the most (plus full BA and less lameness)
if you charge with say a 60 foot movement speed, you have a range of 120 feet. you can move 20 feet to get a running start, jump with a bonus of at least +12 from movement (and then 8 ranks from leap attack)
combine this with power attack (of course), imp bull rush, and shock trooper for heedless charge to actually hit, domino rush to turn your enemies into bowling pins, and directional bullrush to completely control the battlefield. with your range, you can have a pretty huge degree of battlefield control as a melee character, and that's pretty awesome.
it also helps get around a traditional problem for chargers (mobility, difficult terrain, relatively short range, etc)I've got a new fantasy TTRPG about running your own fencing school in a 3 musketeers pastiche setting. Book coming soon.
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2012-08-23, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Well, I've noticed recently that while there is a penalty for going to sleep in your armor, there isn't one for just not going to sleep. Ever.
Unless you are a caster, there appears to be no reason to ever sleep, and even casters spell preparation description says "rest" and not sleep. So them too arguably.
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2012-08-23, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
I've got a new fantasy TTRPG about running your own fencing school in a 3 musketeers pastiche setting. Book coming soon.
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2012-08-23, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Eh, that one I could see, bigger means more of you to hide, but you can still be graceful. For example I have no problems picturing a Large tiger having no issues moving silently, compared to even a small sized humanoid.
ps. We ended up adopting the forced march rules for staying awake.Last edited by TypoNinja; 2012-08-23 at 05:39 PM.
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2012-08-23, 06:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Size doesn't affect a lot of checks that it probably should.
* Survival - Need more food each day.
* Open Lock - Fat fingers.
* Ride - Your poor horse.
* Sleight of Hand - Same deal as Hide, your size makes you more obvious.
* Balance - Picture a giant standing on a branch.
* Escape Artist - This one could go either way, there's more of you to tie but it's probably more difficult to wiggle about.
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2012-08-23, 07:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-23, 07:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Depends entirely on the creature's metabolism.
* Open Lock - Fat fingers.
* Ride - Your poor horse.
* Sleight of Hand - Same deal as Hide, your size makes you more obvious.
* Balance - Picture a giant standing on a branch.
* Escape Artist - This one could go either way, there's more of you to tie but it's probably more difficult to wiggle about.
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2012-08-23, 07:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-23, 07:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-23, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-23, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Circumstance penalty for using inappropriate or inadequate tools. -2 or worse, I'd say. Fingers so big that each one takes up the entire mouth of a pouch? Yeah, I'd say that's a size penalty to a pickpocket attempt.
Heck, just in terms of reaction time alone, a larger creature is at a disadvantage if magic isn't involved.
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2012-08-23, 07:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-24, 03:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
On the flip side, I'd figure being Large would probably help sleight of hand checks to palm or conceal items (assuming the item isn't, itself, a large item of course).
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2012-08-24, 07:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Or stealing things from a Huge creature, whose belt a little halfling might not even be able to reach.
π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
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2012-08-24, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
When giants pickpocket halflings, they don't pick the halfling's pockets, they just pickpocket the entire halfling.
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2012-08-24, 02:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Did someone mention Elder Brains having surprisingly decent Disguise checks? Good enough to fool your average commoner, anyway.
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2012-08-24, 03:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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