UMD Question...

[quiet1mi]

When casting a spell with a wand, what is meant by "on your spell list"?

In other words... does a bard have to waste use a slot learning cure light wounds in order to use a wand of cure light wounds?

[Bayar]

No, just being on the class spell list in general will suffice.

[Beelzebub1111]

When casting a spell with a wand, what is meant by "on your spell list"?

In other words... does a bard have to waste use a slot learning cure light wounds in order to use a wand of cure light wounds?

On your spell list means that it's on the list of possible spells that you could know.

[kamikasei]

No. Spell list isn't spells known. It means that the spell is listed as a bard spell, or a sorcerer/wizard spell, or whatever.

[Killer Angel]

...and this, regardless of the level. Since his first level, a wiz. can use a wand of fireball.

In other words... does a bard have to waste use a slot learning cure light wounds in order to use a wand of cure light wounds?

How is this question, related to UMD?

[nekomata2]

How is this question, related to UMD?

If it wasn't on his list he'd have to UMD it. So it's a matter of whether or not UMD is necessary.

[ericgrau]

When casting a spell with a wand, what is meant by "on your spell list"?

In other words... does a bard have to waste use a slot learning cure light wounds in order to use a wand of cure light wounds?

It only needs to be on your class list. You don't need to learn it or even be able to learn it. A level 1, spell free paladin may use a wand of cure critical wounds without a problem.

The UMD skill is only for using scrolls and wands you can't normally use. For example a rogue can use UMD even though he has zero spells on his class list.

[Grushvak]

On your spell list means that it's on the list of possible spells that you could know.

Does that mean that Factotum never need to roll UMD for arcane wands?

[Frosty]

Does that mean that Factotum never need to roll UMD for arcane wands?

A factotum doesn't have a spell list. He happens to know a lot of Spell-like ability that just happens to be similar to a lot of stuff wizards do.

[Thurbane]

Ways to use a wand (that I know of):

• Have a single level in the appropriate class (you don't even have to have a stat high enough to cast the spell, or be high enough level, in the case of Rangers, Paladins, Hexblades and such)
• Use Magic Device
• Have the Magic clerical domain (Sorcerer/Wizard spells only)
• Bind the vestige Karsus (Sorcerer/Wizard spells only)