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2008-10-31, 05:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
If you don't read Rich's news posts, the late Gary Gygax's favourite charity, Christian Children's Fund has Refused $17,000 raised by GenCon in a charity auction, because some of the money came from the selling of "Always Chaotic Evil" (If I may borrow the term from TVTropes) Dungeons & Dragons merchandise.
That's got me mad, not only because of the narrow-mindedness of the charity about D&D, but that they would refuse legitimately raised funds which would help the people they promise to help, because they disagree with what was sold. I could understand if that money was drug money, or money that was robbed from a bank, but it's not. It's legally raised by people who want to help starving children.
So I thought this thread would be a good place for those of us who want to follow Rich's idea and give them a piece of our mind. We can all write our individual letters here, as well as proof read and fact check other's letters, before sending them on.
Originally Posted by MeLast edited by RMS Oceanic; 2008-10-31 at 05:12 AM.
"They couldn't know that the points from the mainline to the siding were frozen, and the signal should have been set at 'DANGER', but snow had forced it down."
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2008-10-31, 05:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-31, 05:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-31, 05:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Why? Because tuba is the awesomeness.
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2008-10-31, 05:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-31, 05:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Eins, zwei, drei... Ugh, I do not think we brought enough body bags."
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2008-10-31, 05:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
Every 10 seconds, an imp dies from lack of blood of the innocents.
Every minute, an archdevil gets murdered by passing angels.
Every hour, a worshipper of Satan gets burnt alive.
With just 1 pound a month, this could be stopped.
It takes £23 to feed an imp for the rest of it's life.
It takes £284 to install the defences necessary to murder said angel.
It takes £529 to save a worshipper of Satan from the flames, and to give them a chance of a new life.
We need your donations. If you wish to donate, please call 616-666-616-666Last edited by Castaras; 2008-10-31 at 06:03 AM.
"I'm just going on motive and opportunity here and the fact that if the earth got swallowed by a black hole, I'd look suspiciously in your direction first."
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"I blame Castaras. You know... In general."
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"Castaras - An absolutely adorable facade that hides a truly ruthless streak."
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2008-10-31, 06:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Every minute, an cthulhu monstrosity disappears from lack of worshippers.
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2008-10-31, 06:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
shush. Details, details.
Edit: Changed now. Happy?Last edited by Castaras; 2008-10-31 at 06:04 AM.
"I'm just going on motive and opportunity here and the fact that if the earth got swallowed by a black hole, I'd look suspiciously in your direction first."
~ Timberwolf
"I blame Castaras. You know... In general."
~ KuReshtin
"Castaras - An absolutely adorable facade that hides a truly ruthless streak."
~ The Succubus
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2008-10-31, 06:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
The Impossible Thing Before Breakfast- "The GM is the author of the story and the players direct the actions of the protagonists." Widely repeated across many role-playing texts. Neither sub-clause in the sentence is possible in the presence of the other.
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2008-10-31, 06:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
Pfft. Kinda tame for my tastes. Add some bile.
Dear Filth,
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2008-10-31, 06:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have allready e-mailed them, will write when I get home. Speaking as a gamer and an Anglican, this is utterly vile and petty behaviour. I hope that you all out there remember than many Christians actualy try and follow the message of tollerance, peace and honest conduct that the church preaches, rather than this kind of, you know what I can't finish this scentance without upsetting the Moderators so I am just going to his send now and go scream at a bathroom mirror till I loose my voice.
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2008-10-31, 06:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
Change the last bit from "don't look a gift horse in the mouth" to something like "be willing to accept this with a spirit of grace, understanding the shared concern for your cause."
If it were in the middle of the letter it would be one thing, but I think ending on a saying like that might weaken the letter, literarily speaking.
Also, maybe take this: "First of all, I believe you have demonstrated a narrow-minded attitude to role playing games. They are not gateway games to Paganism or Satanic Worship. "
And say something like this: "First of all, I your words would seem to demonstrate a narrow-minded attitude to role playing games. If that was not your intent, it is nonetheless the attitude many will believe you are displaying. These games are not gateways to Paganism or Satanic Worship. They have no inherent world-view attached to them, being intended solely for tools for enjoyment and imagination." (Or something to that affect; show an effort to try to reach common understanding; it will go over much better, I daresay.)
Overall, a very calm-sounding letter. My changes are minor, and more of a "how I would write it" than anything.
I think that it's a very good response, especially as an attempt to actually get them to listen. Bile and anger only breed more reactionism.
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2008-10-31, 06:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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I, too, have already send them an e-mail. It was not a friendly e-mail.
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2008-10-31, 06:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think it looks just fine.
I strongly recommend AGAINST anyone adding bile to their letters. I assume that CCF believes D&D is a work "of the flesh" and showing rage, anger, upset will only serve to confirm them in that belief further.
RMS -- it may be if they are Jack Chick - type believers that they will not consider Catholics Christians either. Yeah, I know. But we can discuss that offline.
Respectfully,
Brian P.
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2008-10-31, 06:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Bile and anger only breed more reactionism.
To actually contribute, I think it's messed up, but it's just another example of idiots making idiotic decisions. At least another, more accomodating charity was found.
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2008-10-31, 06:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-31, 06:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think it's quite blatant that a charity with such an ignorant and intolerant worldview is one that should never be given even an eighth of a penny. I bet they're young-and-flat-earth creationists who would burn Giordano Bruno at the stake over and over again if given the chance.
These people are clearly evil, pushing an agenda of religious oppression and obscurantism, and we should rejoice that they did not get the money because who know what they would have used it for? I'm sure there's a big chunk of indoctrination in their "educational programs" and "child sponsorships".Hark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
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2008-10-31, 06:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
I sent in my two cents.
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2008-10-31, 06:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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*sniffle* those... poor... IMPS!
Oh wait. I eat Imps for breakfast. E, screw 'em.
Hope the OP doesnt mind but I more or less copied your letter changing a few personal details, since I think you stated it pretty damn well.
Out of curiosity, if they still dont accept the money, has anyone considered the "Fill Felixaar's Bank Account" charity? or "Get Bor a Plasma TV"?Live, Laugh, Learn, Love,
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2008-10-31, 06:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
Rich states in his news post GenCon proceeded to donate the money to the Fisher House Foundation.
"They couldn't know that the points from the mainline to the siding were frozen, and the signal should have been set at 'DANGER', but snow had forced it down."
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2008-10-31, 07:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by The e-mail I sent.Originally Posted by The reply came:GNU Terry Pratchett
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2008-10-31, 07:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wait, people still think that D&D is satanic? Wasnt that in the 80's or something ?
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2008-10-31, 07:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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I sent in my two cents.
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2008-10-31, 07:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-31, 07:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
I'm saddened that they would refuse, but knowing it was because of their laws of charity and accepting rather than "D&D! EVIL!" makes me feel better.
Until I saw EvilDMMK3's last post, I was in the same state of mind as him. Quite a shame, and something to be prayed about.
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2008-10-31, 07:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Jack Squat; 2008-10-31 at 07:43 AM.
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2008-10-31, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Charity Rejects D&D Money - Let's Write Letters!
I read this thread's title and thought "Wait, who is giving Charity money and why?"
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2008-10-31, 08:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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[naive]
Wait a minute ... so if CCF rejected the funds because it would give the appearance of CCF endorsing Gencon, why wouldn't Fisher House also reject those funds for the same reason?
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I suspect EvilDMM has the right of it; CCF may have been put under pressure by people who donate a *lot* more money than we do.
I wonder if World Vision would refuse the money? It's mission is nearly identical to CCFs.
Respectfully,
Brian P.
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2008-10-31, 08:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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I know at the end of the day it makes no difference to what actually happened, but to correct something:
It appears, from reading about this situation on other blogs, can't recall who exactly, it was someone in the industry who was involved with Gen Con, that they didn't directly turn the money down, they actually said before the event that they didn't want to be the beneficiary.
Same result at the end of the day; just as stupid, but a little politer.darrell