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2019-09-21, 10:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
I remain enchanted by Dream of
Insight(EDIT: It's actually Dream of Instinct) in Secrets of Sarlona. Costs a prerequisite feat, but basically a certain number of times per day (scales slowly with HD), you take a full-round action to set up, and then you spend that setup on a +10 [!] insight bonus to an arbitrary skill check.
Not every skill-related problem can be solved with a single check and not every skill-related problem will allow a setup round first, but this still gives some surprisingly nice flexibility. Especially if you have other bonuses to arbitrary skill checks, like cunning insight, bardic knack, or universal aptitude.Last edited by Zaq; 2019-09-22 at 03:22 PM.
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2019-09-21, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
Well, a Knowledge check at least.
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
There’s one that works only on Knowledge and one that works on anything. I may have gotten the name wrong.
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2019-09-21, 03:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
Dream of Perception is the one that allows a +10 insight bonus to any skill check or will save.Last edited by Thurbane; 2019-09-22 at 03:32 PM.
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2019-09-22, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
Finally looked this up. We've both been getting the names wrong. Here's a quick table.
Contact Send someone a message Insight +10 on a Knowledge check (can use untrained) Instinct +10 on any skill check or Will save Perception Use augury Strength +5 on damage roll or Fort save The Moment +5 to attack roll or Reflex save
My favorite, the one I was trying to reference above (but that I got wrong), is Instinct. +10 on an arbitrary skill check.
Note that all of these feats have other secondary effects as well, of course. I'm not giving us the whole text from the book.In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
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2019-09-25, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
Interesting find: Necromancy Domain (Dragonlance Campaign Setting p.103) - most especially the granted power: rebuke, command or bolster undead as an evil Cleric; 3+ Cha mods/day.
As we all know, rebuking is very handy for powering devotion feats, entry into certain PrCs etc. This presents a way to get that without requiring a class dip.
But, and it's a big but, there's no easy way to get it without a dip into Mystic. Since no deity offers this domain, a lot of the usual methods (Arcane Disciple etc.) are out the window. And the fact that it isn't technically a Cleric domain (in the DCS, no Cleric can select the domain), things like Planar Touchstone are iffy.My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2019-09-25, 05:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
Well, if you can get a domain any other way, you can always take Heretic of the Faith to exchange it for any other domain not usually offered by your god.
...Could have sworn the Necromancy domain was on the highly useful list of domains, but I guess I misremembered. Did it get updated somewhere?Throw the dice high.
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2019-09-25, 06:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
That list only includes cleric domains, not mystic domains.
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2019-09-25, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
Necromancy domain is within eberron campaign setting. Deity is Blood of Vol. Effect is cast necro spells at +1 caster level. If necromancy domain would have stayed with dragonlance campaign setting.
Dragonlance has august 2003 as copyright month/year. Eberron campaign setting is June 2004. If Necromancy had stayed with the Dragonlance, Any guides involving turn undead usage would have mentioned dragonlance campaign setting versus say Sacred Exorcist drip ( right prestige class ?).
So if using Dragonlance as source for feats or something ( Like Reserves of Strength ) and your DM is okay with replacing of Necromancy from eberron's effect ,have fun with it.Last edited by animewatcha; 2019-09-25 at 06:29 PM.
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
You may be thinking of the Necromancer domain (ECS p.107)?
Interesting. You could, for instance, use the Sorcerer ACF from Complete Champion to get a domain, then use the HoTF feat to swap it for Necomancy domain. Bam! Rebuke undead! It is a pretty sucky ACF though.Last edited by Thurbane; 2019-09-25 at 06:54 PM.
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
Well the specific trick I would use it for on a Spellthief build would be so you could qualify for Stitched Flesh Familiar and then have someone add the Spellstitched template to it. Gives a greatly expanded spell list as well as a nice spell battery for your own Spellthief spells.
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
Doesn't HoTF require already divine spellcasting? A sha'ir would fulfill the requirement, and could get the cleric domain through prestige classes - but at that point you'd want to go sacred exorcist instead.
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
There is the Feat "Heads up!" from Dragon Compendium where you can get the head off a creature and if it has a gaze attack use that once in the span of an hour. Incredibly cool but hardly worth it.
But I could swear I read a feat where you could sever a head, pay an amount of Gold (I think 100?) per creature HD and then use whatever the head could do three times (be it breath weapon, gaze or any other stuff as Long as the head could do it. Perhaps even a bite?) Great for a monster slayer kind of character. Everyone know where this could have come from? (Could be 3rd Party stuff, I did read a lot of 3.X stuff some years ago.)
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
How would that work?
The feat says "If you have access to domains, you can exchange any one domain you have with another domain outside those normally availiable to your faith." So you have to already have a domain before HotF allows you to swap one.
Unless you mean a domain from a prestige class, after starting in Archivist, Druid, or Spirit Shaman?
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
The problem is that there's no splatbook that explicitly supplements the shaman domains beside the spell compendium.
So, the domains published in the CD do not count (unless re-printed in the SpC and thematically fitting the nature/spirit world) since they are explicitly cleric domains."Ash" avatar by linklele - thank you again!
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
It literally says which domains (specifically Shaman Domains) the class has access to in the clause I quoted.
Sure the Cleric isn’t limited to just the Domains in the PHB, but the Cleric is limited to Cleric domains. I’m really not seeing what leg you have to stand on here.
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Re: [3.5] Favorite Obscure Prc, Feat, Spell etc.
And in the preceding part of the same section, it references Domains in the same general sense as any other. Again, nowhere does it actually say that the Shaman is specifically limited to those specific domains given in Chapter 7, unless there's some source I don't know of saying otherwise (and I checked the Errata just to make sure).
And just to be sure, I also double-checked the Oriental Adventures update to 3.5 in Dragon Magazine #318, and nothing there was off either, not in the Shaman section nor in the Domains section.