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    Quote Originally Posted by Xallace View Post
    Like... reality is just an illusion, and my hat is just an illusion, ergo controlling my hat controls reality?

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    Yes. Exactly that. The hat rules the illusion, so mastering the hat gives you control over the illusion.

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    Good choice of item, Gareth. Good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Gareth View Post
    Yes. Exactly that. The hat rules the illusion, so mastering the hat gives you control over the illusion.
    While interesting, I think there are better items for this concept. Maybe some sort of cursed "Mask of False Sight" or something.

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    What was the ruling on alchemical items? Such as, say, Universal Solvent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyooz View Post
    What was the ruling on alchemical items? Such as, say, Universal Solvent?
    Universal Solvent isn't alchemical, its magical (Wondrous Item) but its a one use item. Just stay away from one use items, because they're not going to have the longevity. Now if you made yourself a brand new magic item that was like some sort of alchemical item producer as the centerpiece of the class, that's different. But generally, one use items like anti-glue isn't in keeping with an item of power. Anything that is wholly consumed by using it isn't fitting with the contest.

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    Does it have to be a single magic item, or can the class be focused on a "type" of magic items (as in, "lord of the rings", except I am not aiming for rings.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by ErrantX View Post
    Universal Solvent isn't alchemical, its magical (Wondrous Item) but its a one use item. Just stay away from one use items, because they're not going to have the longevity. Now if you made yourself a brand new magic item that was like some sort of alchemical item producer as the centerpiece of the class, that's different. But generally, one use items like anti-glue isn't in keeping with an item of power. Anything that is wholly consumed by using it isn't fitting with the contest.

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    So a class based around the production and enhancement of one-use items would not be kosher, unless said production/enhancement came from a different item that did the producing/enhancing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomwolf View Post
    Does it have to be a single magic item, or can the class be focused on a "type" of magic items (as in, "lord of the rings", except I am not aiming for rings.)
    Single item, the item has to be central to the class. A master of the rod of lordly might would work, but not a class based around using a plethora of rods.

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    So a class based around the production and enhancement of one-use items would not be kosher, unless said production/enhancement came from a different item that did the producing/enhancing?
    Correct. One item and one item only.

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    Well...there goes one concept out the window...

    Fixing one magic item is hard...most of them do nothing more then mimicking spells, and the unique ones are usually too bizarre to base a class around, or too simple to properly expend upon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by boomwolf View Post
    Well...there goes one concept out the window...

    Fixing one magic item is hard...most of them do nothing more then mimicking spells, and the unique ones are usually too bizarre to base a class around, or too simple to properly expend upon.
    The biggest obstacle I've seen is finding a magic item that is both useful and interesting without being prohibitively expensive. Something like the Helm of Brilliance (which I believe Glimbur is working with) is hundreds of thousands of gil.

    This contest provides some interesting balance challenges from the get-go. I'm enjoying the mental exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomwolf View Post
    Well...there goes one concept out the window...

    Fixing one magic item is hard...most of them do nothing more then mimicking spells, and the unique ones are usually too bizarre to base a class around, or too simple to properly expend upon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyooz View Post
    The biggest obstacle I've seen is finding a magic item that is both useful and interesting without being prohibitively expensive. Something like the Helm of Brilliance (which I believe Glimbur is working with) is hundreds of thousands of gil.

    This contest provides some interesting balance challenges from the get-go. I'm enjoying the mental exercise.
    You could always just invent your own brand new magic item to base a class on? That's totally okay and encouraged as well. As always, I've also placed suggestions that people can feel free to make a class based on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErrantX View Post
    You could always just invent your own brand new magic item to base a class on? That's totally okay and encouraged as well. As always, I've also placed suggestions that people can feel free to make a class based on.

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    Now, I've started the design process on a class that will make use of a homebrew item for this contest, because I will stray from said philosophy when inspiration calls for it, but I figured I'd at least explain my initial reluctance to jump out of the core items.

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    My entry is up, I just have to finish the NPC build.
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    Opening fluff up, having some difficulty making some mechanical decisions about my PrC. We'll see how it goes.


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    Wow! Not only was that awesome, I think I actually kinda understand Archeron now. If all the "intermediate" outer planes got that kind of treatment, I doubt there would be anywhere near as many critics of their utility.
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    And now for the ever-popular, "Guess what Gareth's class does based on the ability names!" game!


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    Wow! Not only was that awesome, I think I actually kinda understand Archeron now. If all the "intermediate" outer planes got that kind of treatment, I doubt there would be anywhere near as many critics of their utility.
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    quick question what do all of you think about a detective pcr based of the lens of detection. im shooting for Sherlock Holmes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devlingreye View Post
    quick question what do all of you think about a detective pcr based of the lens of detection. im shooting for Sherlock Holmes.
    Go for it. My first PrC ever was something like that.
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    oh its not my first. I have written plenty of homebrew Prc's. I just thought it would fill a hole that pathfinder hasn't filled yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Gareth View Post
    And now for the ever-popular, "Guess what Gareth's class does based on the ability names!" game!
    Seven League Stride: Something mobility-enhancing, possibly for overland movement rather than tactical. I doubt that it literally involves taking seven-league steps, but who knows?

    Walk it Off: Heal in any turn that you move? Could be almost any defensive ability, though.

    Spring into Action: Sounds like either some measure of improved initiative, or a less-terrible Spring Attack option.

    Eternal Traveler: Sounds kind of like a "turn into a [creature type]" capstone. Stops needing to sleep/eat/stop, maybe.

    Footwork: Probably a list of abilities that you get to pick one from each level.



    EDIT: I feel like some of the awesome rods deserve a class. Immovable, Absorbtion, Lordly Might, Wonder, Rulership... but if someone does a class for the Rod of Metal and Mineral Detection, I will tip my hat to them.
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    I'm trying to figure out an awesome name for a paladin PrC focusing on the Rod of the Python.

    ...I should probably figure out exactly which serpent mythos I want to pull from first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xallace View Post
    I'm trying to figure out an awesome name for a paladin PrC focusing on the Rod of the Python.

    ...I should probably figure out exactly which serpent mythos I want to pull from first.
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    Either Hand of the Mage or Glove of Storing. Haven't decided which one yet.
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    I'll admit that a havversack is certainly handy, and that boots of striding and springing will take you far. There is a certain squamous appeal to a Knight of the Serpent, and something captivating about aberrant spheres, but even so I look upon these ideas and something occurs to me. If even the Apparatus of Kwalish is deserving of a prestige class, then what about the humble Cloak? How often has your character's life been saved by the Resistance it offers? How often has a saving throw's doom been averted by its gentle aegis? Yet it gets no respect, or gratitude when the greatest homage and dedication we can offer it is nigh?

    This I will not stand for. When girding myself for adventure, without my Cloak I may as well be naked, and to it I will pay my respect and offering.

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    I have an interesting idea for this contest floating around in my head...

    Would 'possessing' a Magical Location count as an Item for the purposes of this contest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMofDarkness View Post
    I have an interesting idea for this contest floating around in my head...

    Would 'possessing' a Magical Location count as an Item for the purposes of this contest?
    I had forgotten about magical locations, maybe PM me a the dime store synopsis of your idea? I'm leery of it.

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    I didn't even think about it but the most difficult part of writing up this class is phrasing things in a way that don't sound like horrible innuendo.
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    I didn't even think about it but the most difficult part of writing up this class is phrasing things in a way that don't sound like horrible innuendo.
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    Question: Is an example encounter + NPC stat block a necessary fluff inclusion?


    Also, inspired by this contest, I spurred one into motion over on minmaxboards if anyone wants to participate.
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    Question: Is an example encounter + NPC stat block a necessary fluff inclusion?
    Nope. It is allowed, and maybe even encouraged, but not necessary.

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