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    Quote Originally Posted by dromer View Post
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    First off, here's my initial request that I put on Ponychan:


    Namely, what I need to know is plot cogency. By playing around with the description and tags, I've obfuscated the fact that BMiaRS is essentially an alternate history setting with ponies, and that ponykind has had a parallel history to mankind. (I.e. They both had industrial revolutions, the same empires, etc.) I want to make this as obvious as possible without being ham-fisted or stating it outright. So, with that in mind, could I get some help?

    Replying with anything, ANYTHING AT ALL, is helpful. I really need some help with this last bit, and I can't thank you enough.
    There's a writing technique I came up with called 'seeding'. By using a small number of words and phrases you can communicate a huge amount of information by playing off popular culture and people's assumptions. If you start off a story with 'once upon a time' you've seeded the idea of fairy tales in people's heads - they know what to think, they make a whole bunch of assumptions, and then you can play with or subvert that.

    Another example of seeding is, for instance, dropping the word 'Bethlehem' in your opening paragraph. Now it's about Jesus, and the entire story is coloured by that. You can riff off popular culture and expectations to a great degree with just a few carefully chosen words or phrases.

    So, to answer your specific query, seed some lines from the cold war. Reds under the Bed. East Germany. Space Race, whatever. The best way to communicate a genre is to couch the story in the language of that genre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erikun View Post
    There are videos on Youtube already, if you want to catch it now.
    Er, thanks for the tip. I'm a bit concerned that they have the same watermark that'd be on the channel I'd watch, when my cable guide says it wasn't aired yet, but that's probably the cable people's way of doing it.

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    But but but but but but but but what about the CMC's report on Discord!? There's no way they can finish that now!
    "Okay, so I'm going to quick draw and dual wield these one-pound caltrops as improvised weapons..."
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    "Oh, hey, look! Blue Eyes Black Lotus!" "Wait what, do you sacrifice a mana to the... Does it like, summon a... What would that card even do!?" "Oh, it's got a four-energy attack. Completely unviable in actual play, so don't worry about it."

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    So, a bit belatedly, I watched - well, it's yesterday's episode now!

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    That was hilarious! And Awesome! And hilarious!

    I thought the pacing was a bit better, and that totally was written as a season closer, right down to the side-splitting Star Wars ending!

    (I agree, they probably could have spun it out into a three-parter. My guess is that Hasbro wouldn't have let them, though - I mean, they didn't let 'em close the season out with this - which would have been a better capstone than Best Night Ever, I think.)

    Additional thoughts:

    Spike is the new Rainbow Dash. Therefore Spike must be shipped with everything and everyone, including the kitchen sink (happened with RD, so...)

    This is, at least, an improvement over being the fanon punching-bag (and the canon-punching bag more often than not...!)

    Spike/RD shipping is looking actually even more plausible (and, while Spike/Rarity is the best, Spike/Rainbow is a good second - heck even Bobcat ... Even Bobcat said he bought that one...)

    (I suspect a fair rise in the amount of Spike shipping, even just from memetic mutation...)

    Yay, mane six are now really famous! Blows that bit of fanon right out of the park. (And, honestly, I prefer them being Big Damn Heroes.)

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    Also, I predict a sharp hike in Big Sparkle.
    Also, yes. Very much so...

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    A little abrupt at the end, I'd like to have seen Discord be something other than a pure villain.
    Bugger that. We've got enough "redeemable" villains already in this show, let's have at least one who is out-and-out villainous - about as Chaotic Evil as you're going to get in this sort of program...) I mean, for crying out loud, people are trying to redeem Blueblood and Gilda!




    Also, on an unrelated note, as I watched Hero Factory and Thundercats before Doctor Who, I saw the Celestia advert, to which I found myself shouting "Why are you pink!"

    It did, however, give me an amusing thought, whereby some entity kidnaps our dear sun goddess and replaces her with a clone (so as to rule from the shadows). Trouble, is they suck at it. Twilight and co are called in by a bemused Luna to find a pink Celestia, who keeps saying things like "I have pretty wings!" and generally being the Worst Clone Ever. It is fooling nopony (except perhaps, for comedic value, Prince Blueblood). Luna has to hold down the fort, dealing with an equally exasperated court as Pinkestia continues to follow her creator's "plans." Meanwhile Twilight and co have to search and rescue the real Princess, and find out what kind of idiot savant is capable of foalnapping and cloning a goddess, while simultaneously being the Worst Villain Ever. Hilarity ensues...



    On an unrelated and unpony, but mind-shatteringly stupid note, among the other avderts was for one of these gimmick kid's games - you know the sort, some technicaly dohickey that they build a "game" around. Only this one was actually about cleaning up dog poop. No, I excrete you not.

    I...I don't even...

    Okay, I understand the need to educate people to clean up after their animals, but seriously? What. The. Hell!?!

    I know far too many toy companies have long since stopped scraping the barrel in coming up with gimmicks (instead of creativity and playability) to sell toys, but this? This is excavating the ground under the barrel so far that you've gone into orbit on the otherside of the planet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    Also, on an unrelated note, as I watched Hero Factory and Thundercats before Doctor Who, I saw the Celestia advert, to which I found myself shouting "Why are you pink!"

    It did, however, give me an amusing thought, whereby some entity kidnaps our dear sun goddess and replaces her with a clone (so as to rule from the shadows). Trouble, is they suck at it. Twilight and co are called in by a bemused Luna to find a pink Celestia, who keeps saying things like "I have pretty wings!" and generally being the Worst Clone Ever. It is fooling nopony (except perhaps, for comedic value, Prince Blueblood). Luna has to hold down the fort, dealing with an equally exasperated court as Pinkestia continues to follow her creator's "plans." Meanwhile Twilight and co have to search and rescue the real Princess, and find out what kind of idiot savant is capable of foalnapping and cloning a goddess, while simultaneously being the Worst Villain Ever. Hilarity ensues...
    This idea is SO GOOD I'm totally stealing it. You'll get a fic the moment I have spare time (months away)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    This idea is SO GOOD I'm totally stealing it. You'll get a fic the moment I have spare time (months away)
    Go for it! I sometimes have a few ideas like this, but would never get around to coming up with enough - and the energy - to actually write something. I was hoping one of you would find the idea worth pursuing!

    (I mean, seriously, I have had a really silly Harry Potter parody kicking around in my head for months now, but it's likely to stay there - it took about two years for me to crank out Raman-Man (which is a (short) Naruto parody on FF, and yes, it is what you probably think it is, from the title!) Given my fanfic record is currently literally one every TEN YEARS, I think it's much safer in your hands!)

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    I have decided that it's TF2 time now. My steamname's on the bronylist

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    Quote Originally Posted by dromer View Post
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    First off, here's my initial request that I put on Ponychan:


    Namely, what I need to know is plot cogency. By playing around with the description and tags, I've obfuscated the fact that BMiaRS is essentially an alternate history setting with ponies, and that ponykind has had a parallel history to mankind. (I.e. They both had industrial revolutions, the same empires, etc.) I want to make this as obvious as possible without being ham-fisted or stating it outright. So, with that in mind, could I get some help?

    Replying with anything, ANYTHING AT ALL, is helpful. I really need some help with this last bit, and I can't thank you enough.
    Maybe start with something like: "Two thousand years after Alexander of Maredon stomped his hooves in despair knowing that there was nothing left to conquer, two hundred years after John Hancolt signed the Declaration of Independence, etc, etc..."


    Quote Originally Posted by dromer View Post
    To be honest, there's a lot of societal and historical examples that show that this would be a logical first response.
    First off, there is large amounts of literature and movies and games based on dystopic sugar bowl environments, such as Fahrenheit 451. Second, our parent's always taught us the virtue of 'too good to be true'. On the historical side, quite a few 'perfect' and thriving societies had secret police or other such enforcers.


    The main reason Equestria doesn't need to have secret police is because Celestia's a god. There's not much reason to oppose her when she can just smite you. Ironically, that makes part of the reason good Celestia's kingdom is so perfect is due in part to fear.
    I think it's mainly this. She gets a little too much reverence and undying love for some people to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    This idea is SO GOOD I'm totally stealing it. You'll get a fic the moment I have spare time (months away)
    "spare time? thats not even a word!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    Also, on an unrelated note, as I watched Hero Factory and Thundercats before Doctor Who, I saw the Celestia advert, to which I found myself shouting "Why are you pink!"

    It did, however, give me an amusing thought, whereby some entity kidnaps our dear sun goddess and replaces her with a clone (so as to rule from the shadows). Trouble, is they suck at it. Twilight and co are called in by a bemused Luna to find a pink Celestia, who keeps saying things like "I have pretty wings!" and generally being the Worst Clone Ever. It is fooling nopony (except perhaps, for comedic value, Prince Blueblood). Luna has to hold down the fort, dealing with an equally exasperated court as Pinkestia continues to follow her creator's "plans." Meanwhile Twilight and co have to search and rescue the real Princess, and find out what kind of idiot savant is capable of foalnapping and cloning a goddess, while simultaneously being the Worst Villain Ever. Hilarity ensues...
    Hehehe, that's a great idea. Sounds strangely familiar though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyouhen View Post
    Hehehe, that's a great idea. Sounds strangely familiar though...
    I forgot about that sketch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orzel View Post
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    For show accurate toys you need to BUY MORE PONIES!
    Is this annoying backwards to anybody else? The way it works is the company supplies the product, and the consumers buy, not the consumers buy some other products in the hope of maybe getting the product they actually want.

    Besides, I don't have that kind of money. Hasbro is not getting any Pony money from me without show-accurate toys, because I can't (and I'm sure many others are in the same boat as me) afford to buy a bunch in the hopes of getting what I actually want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyouhen View Post
    Hehehe, that's a great idea. Sounds strangely familiar though...
    Hadn't seen that one before, so I claim innocence...

    (Man, my Bluff has totally gone up! I said "innocence" when referring to myself and I totally kept a straight skull!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    (Man, my Bluff has totally gone up! I said "innocence" when referring to myself and I totally kept a straight skull!)
    How would we be able to... never mind, I don't want to know.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Dark Fiddler View Post
    Is this annoying backwards to anybody else? The way it works is the company supplies the product, and the consumers buy, not the consumers buy some other products in the hope of maybe getting the product they actually want.

    Besides, I don't have that kind of money. Hasbro is not getting any Pony money from me without show-accurate toys, because I can't (and I'm sure many others are in the same boat as me) afford to buy a bunch in the hopes of getting what I actually want.
    Pretty much, yeah. If the demand for bad toys increases, they're just going to make more bad toys.
    ... I came to appreciate that mountains make poor receptacles for dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kindablue View Post
    Pretty much, yeah. If the demand for bad toys increases, they're just going to make more bad toys.
    Personally if they don't want to make good toys for us to buy it's their loss. This fandom's making a killing off itself.

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    I can see how that thinking is backwards, but I believe the logic that they're going off of is that lack of sales conveys the message of "We don't want pony toys at all" instead of "We don't want BAD pony toys" to the suits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomFox View Post
    I can see how that thinking is backwards, but I believe the logic that they're going off of is that lack of sales conveys the message of "We don't want pony toys at all" instead of "We don't want BAD pony toys" to the suits.
    If that's what they think, then they aren't paying attention to the right stuff. We're pretty blatant about our desire for more show-accurate toys, so it's not really our fault if they aren't getting the message (which sucks because we're the ones that suffer for it ).
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    Season 2....sorta...kinda..spoiled anyway, involves shipping.

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    Okay ponythread pop quiz time. I noticed something about the end of Ep 2 and its gag:

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    Six Main Characters in SW: Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Threepio, and Artoo

    Six Mane Ponies: Twlight, Rainbow, Pinkie, Rarity, Applejack and Fluttershy


    If the mane six were being cast in a ponified remake (for once a probably improvement) who would be who?

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    Okay ponythread pop quiz time. I noticed something about the end of Ep 2 and its gag:

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    Six Main Characters in SW: Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Threepio, and Artoo

    Six Mane Ponies: Twlight, Rainbow, Pinkie, Rarity, Applejack and Fluttershy


    If the mane six were being cast in a ponified remake (for once a probably improvement) who would be who?
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    Relationship issues will show up. No divorces.
    Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.

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    So doesn't that "No Divorces" part mean that Rarity's still going to hang out with Tom? I mean, admittedly, I was rooting for him to be the guy that deals the final blow to Discord in some upside-down display of poetic justice, but I never expected him to be a continuing character! Maybe he just needs some time to chisel out some of his character traits.
    "Okay, so I'm going to quick draw and dual wield these one-pound caltrops as improvised weapons..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by OracleofWuffing View Post
    Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.

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    So doesn't that "No Divorces" part mean that Rarity's still going to hang out with Tom? I mean, admittedly, I was rooting for him to be the guy that deals the final blow to Discord in some upside-down display of poetic justice, but I never expected him to be a continuing character! Maybe he just needs some time to chisel out some of his character traits.
    Oh sweet Celestia, not the puns again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soras Teva Gee View Post
    Okay ponythread pop quiz time. I noticed something about the end of Ep 2 and its gag:

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    Six Main Characters in SW: Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Threepio, and Artoo

    Six Mane Ponies: Twlight, Rainbow, Pinkie, Rarity, Applejack and Fluttershy


    If the mane six were being cast in a ponified remake (for once a probably improvement) who would be who?
    Han Solo: Rainbow Dash - the ace

    Luke Skywalker: Twilight Sparkle - force/magic

    Rarity: Leia - not so helpless princess

    Applejack: Cheewie - the brute

    Fluttershy: C-3PO - team diplomat, talks with animals (kind of like languages)

    Pinkie Pie: R2-D2 - completely random ability set. Some days she is rocketing around striking fear and lasers into her foes, the next she is hangs around the group for the sole purpose of having the keys to the building.

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    Kay!

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    Does that mean I get a shiny everything?!


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    Ah, the way you had it there, I was picturing a small town, and they were crowding around the local mailmare's house. Kind of like how you would go to the miller's house, rather than a miller's house, if that makes sense.

    Alright, I'll finish reading and giving feedback in a bit. In the meantime, Ronin loaned me Rome: Total War and I need to go waste as much time as I possibly can. Haven't played that game in too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OracleofWuffing View Post
    Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.

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    So doesn't that "No Divorces" part mean that Rarity's still going to hang out with Tom? I mean, admittedly, I was rooting for him to be the guy that deals the final blow to Discord in some upside-down display of poetic justice, but I never expected him to be a continuing character! Maybe he just needs some time to chisel out some of his character traits.
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    I bet if there are troubles it'll be because Rarity starts taking their relationship for granite.


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    Yep, this is what I'd peg everyone as too.
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    Oh sweet Celestia, not the puns again...
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure this thread's hit rock bottom. Hard.

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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure this thread's hit rock bottom. Hard.
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    I don't know about the puns. I think it's a long, rocky road that we take.
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