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2010-06-17, 04:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Stupid Lightsaber Variants
I'm sure we've all heard the discussions about how the double-end-lightsaber (a la Darth Maul) is likely more dangerous to the user than it is to the opponent. And I agree.
Then I came across this:
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Who in the HECK thought this was a good idea?
First off: As I understand it, a tonfa is a "spinning" type of weapon, pivoting at the hand grips. This in and of itself is fine, but making one end a lightsaber, which cuts though (darn near) EVERYTHING with little/no effort?
Second: There is no type of guard that would prevent an accidental amputation from the spinning necessary to use the weapon.
Third: The Lightonfas pictured have the "heavy" end of the weapon OPPOSITE the blades, and note that the actual "blade" has no weight whatsoever. This means just about any offensive strike you try to make will result in; A: Opponent having to deal with a stubby metal cylinder, and B: The lightsaber coming right around at the wielders torso.
Can we please put a stop to people making stupid lightsaber variants? About the only thing more stupid than Lightonfas I can think of would be Lightchucks (which may actually be SAFER than the tonfa variant)Last edited by grarrrg; 2010-06-17 at 04:44 PM. Reason: (image post problem)
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2010-06-17, 04:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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I agree that from a practical standpoint this is an absolutely terrible idea. However, in the words of a wise Jedi master "Do not let what is practical stop you from doing what is awesome".
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2010-06-17, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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actually there ARE lightsaber-nunchucks, I read about them somewhere on wikipedia.
heck there is even a lightsaber, where they have a second blade, coming out not at the opposite end of the saber, but instead the second blade come out at the same end- but 45 degrees outward so that you are literally wielding this lightsaber with a normal blade point straight up, with another blade pointing 45 degrees forward.
I'm not kidding.
edit: there is also a lightwhip, oh and lightspears in the force unleashed.Last edited by Lord Raziere; 2010-06-17 at 04:50 PM.
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2010-06-17, 04:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm pretty sure that you don't even wield damn tonfa like, that (could be wrong though).
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2010-06-17, 04:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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I dunno, if the wielder had a set of cortosis-alloy armour (a la Jedi Academy), then maybe. But certainly not in what she's wearing, which I imagine provides less protection than a chainmail bikini.
Alternatively, this could be why the jedi are the best of the best. AFAIK, they have to make their own lightsabres, so if someone decides to make that, then I guess they just demonstrate natural selection quite aptly.
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2010-06-17, 05:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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The "Lightspear" I can understand, it would just have a long handle (I hope...)
That and there have been "double/triple" length blades on normal sabers which would presumably serve the same purpose, albiet with a lack of leverage.
And the "Lightwhip" as I heard/read isn't a "Lightsaber" proper, just a highly energized lightsaber resistant... something (Iron Man 2 > Whiplash anyone?). That and a normal whip isn't something you would normally hit yourself with anyway (if you're properly trained that is)
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2010-06-17, 05:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, this is a bad example to use because the picture you used is completely wrong.
That's Maris Brood, Shaak Ti's one time apprentice before her death who ended up being corrupted by Felucia, as featured in The Force Unleashed. The toy however has her lightsabers entirely wrong.
This is Maris Brood's real lightonfa.
Well, sort of. This is just promotional artwork, in game their model does in fact resemble real tonfa more, with different length ends to the weapon and the blade emanating from the heavy end of the device which she holds with the blades end approximately alongside her elbows.
So in this manner, first off, with a horizontal hand grip she is now capable of pulling off complex spins to her blows which can disorient opponents and throw them off their guard allowing her to slip through with unexpected attacks.
Secondly, as a Jedi gifted with the Force, she needs no such protection. You can note no Lightsaber has a cross-guard attached to the hilt separating the blade from the main device. Jedi are simply so aware thanks to the Force they would never accidentally cut themselves with the weapon.
Thirdly, Lightsaberchucks do sort of exist, wielded by Asajj Ventrass in the downloadable content for Battlefront II on the original XBox. This is largely non-canon as far as I am aware, but in principal it is sound. Two lightsabers attached to one another by a chain is unprecedented and would immediately throw off many Jedi who face such a style. Someone as skilled as Asajj was as well, means she essentially becomes a whirling engine of death. During the Clone Wars many had to adapt to a sudden change in combat as large scale conflict became increasingly common. Styles such as Ataru and Nimian fell out of favour for styles such as Shien or Soresu as battle became the Jedi's life, so something as lethal as Lightsaberchucks was not only expected but necessary to survive, especially as long as Asajj did.
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2010-06-17, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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I like the idea of Exar-Kun's double lightsaer; shorter blades and (I believe) was wielded 1 handed.
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2010-06-17, 05:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Someone should tell that nice girl that her underwear is showing.
Sorry, thats the only thing I find wrong with that image.
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The only thing I find "stupid" as a lightsaber variant is either a boomerang, a shuriken/ninja star or a bow n' arrow. Otherwise, I see nothing wrong with it.
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2010-06-17, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Lightsaber arrows? Cool!
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Corran Horn built a dual phase lightsaber (out of a crashed speeder bike throttle), the idea behind it is that you can hit a switch and double the length of the blade. However after considerable use, Corran came to the realization that its not much more than a novelty. The extra length is too cumbersome to use effectively, you end up digging it into the ground and such.
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2010-06-17, 06:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think I recall reading about a fork-saber some jedi dude used during the clone wars on Wookiepedia. Apparently (at least how I pictured it) it's a Y-shaped hilt that has two lightsaber blades coming out of t.
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2010-06-17, 06:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hey I found a list of them on wookiepedia. check it
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2010-06-17, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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The lightsaber becomes a stupid weapon when used by most series other than human. Look at Kit Fisto, that squid headed alien from the prequel films. When you have swinging tentacles on your head, do you really want to use a lightsaber?
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2010-06-17, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hey, it worked for Psyga in Kamen Rider Fiaz: Paradise Lost, though admitably, he lost in the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eRxE-y9Gw8
Check out from 4:10 onwards.Last edited by Runestar; 2010-06-17 at 07:03 PM.
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2010-06-17, 08:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Lightsaber nun-chucks. It can't possibly go wrong.
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2010-06-17, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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What I always wondered was, why someone didn't make a gun that shoots out lightsabers?
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2010-06-17, 09:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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When I was young, I once imagined a lightsaber knight, complete with lightsaber fullplate and lightsaber shield.
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2010-06-17, 09:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-17, 09:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Um, lightsaber armor is impractical but lightsabers themselves are A-Okay?
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