Doesn't count, first because rifles are still technicaly pointy sticks, and second because 99% of real robots will still go FIGHTING SHOOTING SPIRIT CHALLENGE YOU TO PERSONAL COMBAT WITH POINTY STICKS RRRAAAARRGHHH!
so, what are mecha supposed to be used for, if not combat? exotic mode of travel? construction?
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I'm going to be the only one to say this so ignore me if you want but skip Beserk, it's really not that good *Get your pitchforks folks*. Some stuff to look for are Bokurano, yeah the main cast is a group of kids but belive me, this is not something for kids and is known for doing something according to most people breaks the fundamental rule of a Super Robot show, it's extremely depressing and bleak. Two other series to look for are Flag and Five Star Stories *THough this is just a manga*.
Skip Bokurano. Evangelion is happy happy land and Shinji Hikari is a pretty cheerfull dude when you compare it with Bokurano. I couldn't bring myself to finish reading it.
However, their robot definetely runs on the power of spirit. Perhaps too much.
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tribble:I don't mind mechas in combat. I do mind when sudenly mechas are the only viable combat machine and everything else is suport at best.
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Noir. Simply as that. It uses anime graphics and some fighting scenes are a bit unrealistic (noone can shoot that precise!), but thats it. No stupid kids, punching girlfriends and usuall annoying stuff. Lot's of gunfighting thought.
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Skip Bokurano. Evangelion is happy happy land and Shinji Hikari is a pretty cheerfull dude when you compare it with Bokurano. I couldn't bring myself to finish reading it.
However, their robot definetely runs on the power of spirit. Perhaps too much.
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tribble:I don't mind mechas in combat. I do mind when sudenly mechas are the only viable combat machine and everything else is suport at best.
Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute, you're playing SRW, but you don't like pilots and mecha that run on fighting spirit? Wah?
I've seen the anime and read the manga. Don't like either to much. Then again I'm all so the guy who doesn't like Cowboy Beebop.
I would also suggest Berserk, not only because is the best comic ever made, but because it's pretty much what the OP described, BUT, the anime is very old and only like a 1/10 of the entire plot by now. On the other hand reading it is a complete must.
The Patlabor movies fulfil the goal of being a mature series and being a mecha based show that doesn't descend into fighting spirit silliness (unless you count Ohta ).
Jin-Roh is another good one, although it's only a one off movie.
I've only watched the first episode of it, but if it promises to be as good as the manga, then Blade of the Immortal would have the mature theme and a kick-ass female (I mean Makie here, Rin doesn't really count).
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Well... I can't be buggered to read all that've come before, so I'll just list some.
Berserk is a great, very dark series...
Ghost in the shell, both the movies are great, perhaps the series as well, but they're a bit lighter in spirit.
Serial Experiments Lain This series is just trippy (literally)... I don't know how to explain it other than that. It's a great series, just watch it through.
Black Lagoon "Mr normal ends up with a gang of mercenaries" is the best way to describe this, but still; Great series. Bit heavy on some episodes, but it's good stuff.
Ghost Hunt Teen girl stumbles over some equipment left by a paranormal investigator and is forced to work for him to pay it back. No chibification or anything, just some good comedy, romance and horror. My very favorite series.
How about Zipang A japanese warship thrown back into the second world war during a training exercise. Wonderful art, and great story as well.
Eve no Jikan; An excellent little series about life in the future. Think Bicentinnial man, but a bit more subtle. A "must-see", but the comedy might put you off a bit.
Well. Hope you'll enjoy it.
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Aaaargh! How'd I forget Baccano?! Wonderful series. Two thumbs up.
Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute, you're playing SRW, but you don't like pilots and mecha that run on fighting spirit? Wah?
Now now, you misunderstood me. I do like mechas and robots that run in fighting spirit. I don't like it when fighting spirit becomes the only thing that matters.
In SRW, for example, fighting spirit alone won't win you the day. Look at the boss from mission 20:
I'M THE SWORD OF MAGUS! THERE'S NOTHING I CANNOT CUT!
(several attacks later)
Ack! Where's my energy? Why do they keep coming at me? Oh woe, if I just had a machine gun, or if my my fighting spirit would recharge my mecha's energy...
(my dudes keep shooting at him)
It burns us! I must retreat, overwhelmed by numbers, despite all my fighting spirit!
It's extremely satisfying for me to drain the boss's energy with numbers and then grinding them to dust while they stay there, unable to counter attack.
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Skip Bokurano. Evangelion is happy happy land and Shinji Hikari is a pretty cheerfull dude when you compare it with Bokurano. I couldn't bring myself to finish reading it.
However, their robot definetely runs on the power of spirit. Perhaps too much.
I'm actually surprised I ended up liking Bokurano *And Eva for that matter* I mainly like things light with a happy ending *Bittersweet is okay* and Bokurano was far far far FAR away from any of that.
Well, Evangelion has it's share of happy moments. There's a ray of hope troughout all the series, and Shinji manages to live with a milf, and he works with two pretty girls on top of that. Plus there's relatively few character deaths, and plans do work whitout need of human sacrifices.
Bokurano has actualy a quite good story, but it's really lacking on the happy moments. Super robots fall, a LOT of people die. And you know you're doomed no matter what.
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But you also stated it didnt need to be that. So im lost.
Also your initial post seems to suggest (based upon what you listed as examples) that violence and grit are required. Which is different from using adult simply to mean "not for kids".
In the simply not for kids section i would recommend Welcome to the NHK but as its based around acting like spacewits (complete with otakudom, social phobias, and Borderline Personality Disorder) or, rather, crazy people....
Yea. I cant help you in the "gritty and serious and violent but not over the top action" genre of adult other than to support Ghost In The Shell. Maybe Mnemosyne but its kinda over the top and gratuitious in the style of Gantz. Better than Gantz tho in my opinion. Moar lesbians.
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Oh yeah, one series that I forgot to mention, Gunslinger Girl. The fact that the protagonist are seemingly 12 year old girls may be off putting at first but the show is pretty good and deep without being annoying. Episode 2 is really depressing though.
Oh yeah, one series that I forgot to mention, Gunslinger Girl. The fact that the protagonist are seemingly 12 year old girls may be off putting at first but the show is pretty good and deep without being annoying. Episode 2 is really depressing though.
I considered mentioning this one.
If you really want to see kids killing people I also suggest Now And Then, Here And There. Dont let the first episode fool you. It is not nearly so lighthearted as its opening suggests.
Kids also kill people in Eureka Seven but...well...technicolor bio-mechs surf on the brainwaves of the planet and then they bleed like Eva's* when injured.
*If you havnt seen Evangelion then i will sum it up thusly: High pressure blood in a body that can hold a thousand times the blood thats in a human.
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For mature mecha? VOTOMs is always good. I REALLY like Gundam (standard continuation). 08 MS Team would fit the bill for what you're looking for, as would Stardust Memory. Or War in the Pocket. Macross deserves a nod as well.
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The best part of G Gundam is that you get to see Japanese stereotypes of all the different countries. USA's is particularly poignant, I think.
I would recommend: Trigun, which is silly as hell but also frakking mature, and FLCL! If that isn't adult, I don't know what is...
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Now now, you misunderstood me. I do like mechas and robots that run in fighting spirit. I don't like it when fighting spirit becomes the only thing that matters.
In SRW, for example, fighting spirit alone won't win you the day. Look at the boss from mission 20:
I'M THE SWORD OF MAGUS! THERE'S NOTHING I CANNOT CUT!
(several attacks later)
Ack! Where's my energy? Why do they keep coming at me? Oh woe, if I just had a machine gun, or if my my fighting spirit would recharge my mecha's energy...
(my dudes keep shooting at him)
It burns us! I must retreat, overwhelmed by numbers, despite all my fighting spirit!
It's extremely satisfying for me to drain the boss's energy with numbers and then grinding them to dust while they stay there, unable to counter attack.
This is why when you have little to no supernatural power on your robot it's a bad idea to melee in the genre in general. This is why gundams shoot and Getters tomahawk, hell Mazinger's attacks are pretty much all range oriented and it's the grandaddy of them all. Mecha in general only get beat up pretending to be something their not.
In terms of good series that meet the OP's statement I'd reccoment anything with getter robo. It's got excellent fight scenes on foot or in mecha, features fully grown protagonists, has great villans, lots of political subplot, and is in general awesome.
This is why when you have little to no supernatural power on your robot it's a bad idea to melee in the genre in general. This is why gundams shoot and Getters tomahawk, hell Mazinger's attacks are pretty much all range oriented and it's the grandaddy of them all. Mecha in general only get beat up pretending to be something their not.
Last time I checked, gundams do melee a lot of the time. Mecha spiked chain much?
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No, I don't mean "adult" as in GrimDarkTittiesGore . . . not necessarily.
I just mean no giant sweatdrops, no chibiheads, no adults acting like complete spastwits, no "angry girl punches boyfriend literally across town", no "18 year old male protagonist who looks like a 13 year old girl", no . . . well, you get my point.
I've watched Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, and Pumpkin Scissors, and now I'm hungry for other cartoon action series that aren't kiddie. Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to have a badass female protagonist. I just love girls who kick ass.
Honestly the Gundam series, excluding G Gundam and Gundam SD (which is like a revived abortion anyway) ae pretty good. They're serious without being depressing. I reccommend starting off with Gundam Wing and Mobile Suit: Gundam.
His was denoting a questioning tone. Like in the following example:
"Then he ****ed the ministers dog with the **** and the fish."
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"The fish."
In this case, the red text is a question. A rather fragmented one. A better version would be "Did he really use the fish?" (Better answer: "He used the fish") but this is still a question. If spoken outloud by a native english speaker the inflection would make that clear.
Thats sort of the effect in the post you are mocking. If you have ever seen someone offer a suggestion in a questioning tone of voice, you know what he was doing. In this case the part left off was most likely "What about..."
The question mark was probably in place to let us, the readers, know that he intended the comment to be read with a interrogative inflection.
Your own sig has a question in that manner, in fact.
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But they use ranged MOST of the time, it's not like every fight uses swords, it's more they're gun wielding robots who happen to have blades.
Depends on the Gundam series in question, really. G Gundam, already being discussed in this thread, has quite a bit of melee going on, really.
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Honestly the Gundam series, excluding G Gundam and Gundam SD (which is like a revived abortion anyway) ae pretty good. They're serious without being depressing. I reccommend starting off with Gundam Wing and Mobile Suit: Gundam.
Some of them are a little depressing. A lot of the good ones are, actually. Now that I think about it.
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