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2012-02-17, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XXXVII: We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
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SpoilerSo... Are you still trying to keep the rhyming thing going? Because there's enough of it in there that I can't believe it isn't intentional, but it's a bit distracting since it's intermittent.
"But all of the excuses isn’t quite the truth"
isn't needs to be aren't
"He was a little filthy, yes, a little rich, sure"
I might swap "filthy" and "rich" just to shift the emphasis a bit. Or change one of the "little" to "more than a little." However you prefer that line.
"but my eyes kept slipping"
I might change "eyes" to "eye" since it's Derpy
“If your time is so precious,” quoth Zecora, “that is because it is short! Away you should flee, or by Timber Wolves be caught!”
Is this supposed to rhyme? It doesn't, but it's close enough that I can't tell
Mostly nitpicks, the sometimes-rhyming is the only thing that really bothered me.Proof-reading is totally unnecessary in the digital age now that we have spell cheque.
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2012-02-17, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XXXVII: We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
We're on 4chan now? Hooray, I guess. Wouldn't say it's the definitive moment in the fandom, though. I mean, having the fandom is a pretty big achievement for My Little Pony, no?
Isn't 4chan kind of, I dunno, skeevy, too? Like, er, never mind.
Episode speculation stuff:
SpoilerWe're going to see a donkey! Yay!
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2012-02-17, 02:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XXXVII: We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
I assure you Deadly its less.
Generally a post is forgotten as quickly as it is made and there are hundreds of hundreds of posts in a second. You operate in a giant nameless and faceless crowd. Its why the place breeds meme's, because normal communication simply doesn't function well. Even hackers don't feel up to the effort to track down any particular "cancer" because there will just be some new entirely different poster doing the same thing.
(And 4chan has been complaining about various 'cancers' since it was born)
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2012-02-17, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not thinking of a targeted attack, singling out a particular person. That would certainly be much easier in a different kind of setting. I'm thinking of dropping something and hoping that someone, anyone will randomly stumble across it. And if you keep that up, dropping things all over the place, it doesn't matter how quickly it's gone, it's pretty much assured that at least someone will get hit.
That's how spam works. Send out a gazillion mails and it won't matter that 99.99% of it is wasted, because it didn't cost you a dime and 0.01% of a gazillion is still plenty. Here you probably don't even have to make a gazillion posts, because even a few posts will stand some chance of being seen by at least a few people. Maybe not many, but a few is enough.
We were talking about the new board for bronies and how some people were worried that it was a trap meant to mass-ban bronies. My point was that IF it's a trap, getting banned is probably the least worrisome scenario. Even if it's legitimate, even if moot himself has no ill intentions someone else there might decide to take advantage of having a lot of bronies in one place.
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2012-02-17, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XXXVII: We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
Well, if they were real bronies, no troll or spam attack would faze them. Deflect, absorb, love and tolerate. The problem is a lot of supposed "bronies" on 4chan are more like pony proponents (proponyents?), and to make matters worse there are several distinct varieties of these proponyents that were previously separate, and don't really mix well. At least, that's what I understood from scanning the comments on the matter. Trollbombs dropped in the midst of such a mixed-values collection of people are going to be pretty effective.
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2012-02-17, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XXXVII: We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
I know that 4chan is like our birthplace, but I don't really have want to go there.
This place is much better.
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2012-02-17, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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I know trolling shouldn't worry anypony. Just shrug and move on is what we do. Or should do at least.
I was talking about an actual hacking attempt, to either cause damage to unsuspecting bronies' computers, or steal their personal information. I don't know how likely it is, but it certainly seems a more worrying thought than simple trolls or bans.
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2012-02-17, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh it might be a trap by the mods for sure.
The trap though is... they ban all the IP addresses that post there, because that's all they have.
As for outside parties, you more at risk for going to EqD.
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2012-02-17, 03:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-17, 03:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ah, hacking attacks. Well... you know, there are probably a lot of more dangerous places to be visiting, especially pony-related. 4chan is still largely a board of anonymous people, and those who post in one given section still probably come from all over the board. Hackers picking out addresses to attack from visitors or posters there run the risk (well, assuming they do risk something) of attacking people "on their side". Even if their goal is to somehow damage the reputation of the pony board, having such a pool of targets means the damage is inevitably going to be spread out across the whole of 4chan, which might undermine their efforts. Much better places to seek targets would be boards like ponychan, or sites like ponybooru, or even the various fiction-collecting places like fimfiction or even EqD. In this regard, the largely anonymous nature of 4chan is an individual poster's best defense.
That said, I'm still not going to visit it for any reason other than idle curiosity, and I'm certainly not planning on posting anything there. 4chan is like a steaming, bubbling cauldron of unhealthy looking goo. You tend not to care what wondrous things are made using the stuff that's brewing, because stuffing your hand (or face) in there immediately strikes you as a Bad Idea(tm).Bearer of the Psionic Flame
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2012-02-17, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Petition: Hasbro, WE WANT ACCURATE FiM PLUSHIES!
It's not that far-fetched.
To wit: in the latest MLP collection, there will be a pony named Vinyl Scratch (or DJ Pon-3, depending on who you ask, I say it's her stage name). She has been on the show for a grand total of two seconds. The only reason she's known is because us bronies though she was a cool character and latched on to her. Now, she's an official toy.
So in reply to the OP, there's really not much of a revolution to have. The bronies are a recognized audience for Hasbro. If you want them to make plushies, it's easier to convey that in a channel they'll actually monitor, because there's a chance that it'll happen.
Oh, and there's a pony thread.Quoth the raven, "Polly wants a cracker."
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2012-02-17, 03:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XXXVII: We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
I'm nothing if not completely unknowing of how 4chan works, but I find it a bit suspicious that the new board is not among the links on the front page.
And wasn't there a /fur/ board once which basically was a "collect all the furries and ban them all" thing? Or is that just a rumour?
I cannot believe that moot would sound so apologetic if this was actually legit. My bits are on this being a big pony trap.Quoth the raven, "Polly wants a cracker."
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2012-02-17, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fair point about ponychan and ponibooru, I suppose. Though EqD does have the advantage that it's rather limited what a random visitor/user can post there. As a commenter there you're limited to plain text and links. Sure, blogger could have bugs that might be exploitable, but any site might have bugs and all other things being equal the limitations of comments on EqD does make things harder. Specifically no image posting, unless you trick Seth into posting it for you on the front page I suppose, but even that would have certain limitations (on a board like this one which allows posting images from arbitrary addresses I can easily snoop IPs from people by simply posting a well crafted image (I never would do such a thing ), I doubt I could pull that trick off on EqD). I believe ponibooru has the same limitation, but I have no knowledge of how ponychan works.
Anyway, it all probably depends on motivations and goals. If your goal is to hit a specific person, brony or otherwise, then 4chan is not the place that's for sure. If you want to hit bronies specifically but don't care who in particular, then I suppose maybe ponychan is a better alternative in many ways. However, if your goal is to hit random people, not necessarily bronies, then 4chan might be the perfect place, and I suspect 4chan is exactly the kind of place where people who would have that kind of "goal" would tend to be found and tend to be most active (that's not saying anything about 4chan visitors in general, only that a possibly tiny minority of its posters might be such people). And if the "popular target of the day" happens to be bronies, their first stop might be this new board because it's close by and all that.
What I suspect is that these certain elements of 4chan are rather... impulsive. They wouldn't go after ponychan because that's too planned in a sense; you go after ponychan if you have some actual motivation other than just random lulz. For those random, impulsive things 4chan is probably more likely to be a target.
That's what I suspect anyway. Probably a lot of wild speculation, but anyway... maybe I'm wrong.
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2012-02-17, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Regarding the hacking conversation, I'm no expert, but I've been doing work recently on an article that is entirely focused on hacking, countermeasures, and the types of attacks that go on, so I feel like I have something to say about it.
First, I think Soras Teva Gee is basically right. 4chan is no more dangerous in terms of random hacks than anywhere else. In fact, most of the random hacks occur just by connecting your computer to an internet cable/WiFi network and if you did turn off your firewall and just leave an internet connection on, you'd likely get hacked within the hour. However, firewalls are generally pretty good (unless people find a bug in windows firewall, in which case Microsoft usually freaks out and patches it super fast). You're mostly in danger from programs that trick the user into giving permissions such as clicking a bad link, a phishing e-mail, or in some cases legitimate websites getting hacked. However, for that last one, my understanding is that the most commonly hacked legitimate websites are actually public universities and other .edu sites, not places like 4chan.
In fact, I pity whoever tried to hack the 4chan site itself. It would go...badly...for that person.
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2012-02-17, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Petition: Hasbro, WE WANT ACCURATE FiM PLUSHIES!
i have to agree with the OP
this week i went to buy my sister a MiP doll for her birthday and there was baby cheerilee WTF?
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2012-02-17, 04:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Out of date web browser plugins, especially Flash and PDF are also a very easy way to get hacked. I recommend:
- Keep your plugins up to date. Use Plugin Check if you're using Firefox.
- Disable plugins that you don't need. Java included.
- Install Flashblock or similar so you only get the Flash you want.
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2012-02-17, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's all about intention, as I said above. Most attacks (worldwide, statistically speaking) are probably targeted, they have some motivation behind them. Like, attacking some company or government or organization. In this I suspect individuals are rarely targets unless it's as an employee at the actual target or the like. Either that or it's criminals trying to trick you out of your money, but they certainly wouldn't target 4chan I'm sure.
The attacks I imagine aren't really motivated by anything but an impulse to have fun. Maybe just to see if you can, so you throw out some nets and catch a few random fish, then you let them go and they never realize anything happened at all.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised (though rather ashamed) if all my personal files can be found on some kid's computer half-way around the globe. All because he could, and I will never know. Or just maybe I will one day, but hopefully not.
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2012-02-17, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XXXVII: We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
You're buying into this hilariously idealised version of 4chan, where Anon is all-powerful and viruses swarm like locusts.
If 4chan was capable of hacking thousands of bronies' data using only what they'd posted on 4chan (i.e. text and a captcha), then the internet would be a haunted wasteland, inhabited only by flaming ghosts, because they'd use that on everyone and everything all the time and for no reason.
The places to worry about are the places where you submit your credit card information.
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2012-02-17, 04:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm kinda undecided about Anonymous and their ilk. It's all too vague, because any bunch of fools can call themselves Anonymous and maybe get away with it too. I am not terribly impressed with the majority of what they pull off, at least the stuff that is reported in the media. DDoS attacks? Gimme a break.
What I do think is fairly certain is that Anonymous is a very broad and varied bunch, pretty much a catch-all title. The large majority are probably script kiddies who just found some cool tool on the net and now run around like they know what they're doing. They'll likely get a visit from the authorities soon enough. But I'm quite sure there are a number of serious hackers who associate with the name "Anonymous" for one reason or another (I might question the logic in that) and do pull off major things. The problem is just that anything major takes time, sometimes a lot of time, which is one reason we don't hear about it as much as the rest.
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2012-02-17, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-17, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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I suspect we have had some thread merging going on? Good stuff.
I myself would like more accurate pony plush. That's why I'm trying to get Ido to come out of the brony closet!
4chan is, supposedly, where pony stuff started actually.
Heck, if rumors are true that's where Thanqol was exposed.
*nods agreeably*
I don't thin "Anonymous" is even a group in the same way it is reported.
News outlets present anonymous like they are a group who all qualified for and signed up for some club. That's just not how it works.
Anonymous has no hierarchy or order. They probably don't even know who each other are most of the time. "anonymous" is about the same as saying "I'm a stranger". Well, duh!
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2012-02-17, 05:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XXXVII: We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
On the subject of security and browsers I'd like to make one friendly remind to those that use firefox:
noScript. The netscape legacy browsers (which Firefox and chrome are) don't have the millions of dollars in budget like IE has. Microsoft for all it's faults plugs holes fast. Meanwhile the "less hackers attack me if I use not-IE" argument is pretty well invalid. Consider the fact that the netscape family (irony here, really) has overtaken IE in terms of market share. Firefox itself is known for being something of a soft target out of the box.
So yah, it may be annoying at first, but install a script blocker and operate strictly on a whitelist basis.
edit- It's come to my attention that "Sweetie-bot" is more popular than her being a dictionary. I find that rather amusing, and my favorite line regarding this is:
"Aren't you worried the fashion police will come and beat you with their fabulous batons?"Last edited by MCerberus; 2012-02-17 at 05:19 PM.
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2012-02-17, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's just a title. An ideal, more like it, although everyone probably disagrees about the details of that ideal. It's kinda like "brony", in fact, something anyone can claim but not everyone may agree that they deserve the title.
Anon probably has a lot of small groups that communicate with each other, but have no knowledge or control of the larger "whole". And some of these smaller component groups may actually be competent, even agreeable in their ideals. But that says nothing about the larger whole.
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2012-02-17, 05:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Anonymous does have some ideals and beliefs that define them as a group though. I'm not that hot at explaining this one, but I'll let "Extra Credits" pick up my slack for me. It's only 6 minutes long and quite informative.
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/anonymous
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2012-02-17, 05:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XXXVII: We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
Forget on line, you're way more likely to lose your credit card information by swiping it into a reader that someone unscrupulous has set to save and forward information.
Heck, every time you give your card to a waiter at a restaurant you're betting that he doesn't have a smartphone with a magnetic reader and a loose sense of ethics.
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2012-02-17, 05:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-17, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm still waiting to see what demon-possessed Sweetie will be like on the other abridged series. Taz the geometry demon ftw >.>
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2012-02-17, 05:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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About thread name idea someone submitted and I loved - this should say it all:
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I only wonder, should it be "No one expects Sponish Inquisition!" or replace inquisition with Pinquisition? ^^"
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2012-02-17, 06:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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I thought it was going to be "Strangely obsessed with jelly" or "(still) strangely obsessed with ponies" based on the discussion a couple pages back, but it's up to you
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