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    ...Well that settles that. V's ambiguity predates all references to said ambiguity.

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    And we STILL don't know if Rich considered him male or female!

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    Nope, and we never will.

    Also: Darn you Rich, I was -this- close to actually WINNING a debate on the OOTS forums. Such a feat has never been achieved! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narren View Post
    And we STILL don't know if Rich considered him male or female!
    And we wont, ever. Pity.

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    Nope, and we never will.

    Also: Darn you Rich, I was -this- close to actually WINNING a debate on the OOTS forums. Such a feat has never been achieved! :P
    No, not quite, because Phantasm was making good points about us not knowing when the first ambiguity was.

    Also, whoa, the Giant posted!
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    Really? This is one of the few I've seen since I started reading the forums. Sorry about it hijacking your thread though.

    Oh, not accusing anyone of hijacking it; i was just musing about how often that debate springs up


    On that note, interesting that the giant took an interest in the thread today XD have to keep an eye out for him posting in other threads as well.
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    I'm glad that the "V-Man on strip #9 proves that V was originally intended to be male" argument lies now in ruins.

    Thanks, Giant.

    Now, returning to the original topic:

    The fact that Hylga has a bigger breasts than the average female elf doesn't mean she is more attractive, much less feminine. As an old adage in my country says:
    "Boob that thou hand cannot cover, is not a boob, but an udder"
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    Thanks Giant.

    Now I can keep dreaming V is female. (While knowing that those who prefer as male can do that and that there's no need to fight over it. )

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    Sure, if you're a good writer. I, on the other hand, was a very very bad writer back then. And also I could not have imagined that my choices (much less my message board posts) would be picked apart like this 8 years later. I thought it would confuse half my 50 or so readers, and that amused me. At the time, that was enough reason to do it. Remember, there was no intent to have any sort of plot until a few strips after that. My post in the thread at the time was my way of acknowledging that I wasn't going to answer the question, nothing more.

    My biggest mistake was thinking that the majority-view in my 6-person poll was analogous to what the majority of the readers at the time thought or would think in the future. In hindsight, rather than trying to shift the perception the other way, I should have shifted it toward neutral, as I did in later strips. (Incidentally, it's because I now recognize that it is bad writing to have introduced the ambiguity that way that I am bothering to respond to this. It bugs me that I didn't do it more organically than that, and I don't like anyone using the fact that I was bad at doing something as proof that I must not have meant to do it.)

    OK, question asked, answer given.
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    ...Well that settles that. V's ambiguity predates all references to said ambiguity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pilgrim View Post
    The fact that Hylga has a bigger breasts than the average female elf doesn't mean she is more attractive, much less feminine. As an old adage in my country says:
    "Boob that thou hand cannot cover, is not a boob, but an udder"
    Well, my country's adage says:

    "If you use thou when you mean thy, an innocent grammarian fairy will die."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame of Anor View Post
    Well, my country's adage says:

    "If you use thou when you mean thy, an innocent grammarian fairy will die."
    Groove!!! Can I see the corpse!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pilgrim View Post
    Groove!!! Can I see the corpse!!!

    Killing grammarian fairies; It's everything I dreamt, and more!
    Holy cow. You're attempting a massacre, aren't you?



    Anyway, in MY country we have a saying . . . no wait, that's not relevant at all to this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame of Anor View Post
    Well, my country's adage says:

    "If you use thou when you mean thy, an innocent grammarian fairy will die."

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    Do not forget though; in the country of the internet, the masses do not care if its an udder or a boob! Only that it is on the personage.

    Though, in seriousness, the existence of "curves" on the upper area is one of the most widely recognized characteristics of an individual being female. Its often used to depict animals or even robots (just look at transformers ) being female, even if at a gag level, hence its importance to conventional ideas of femininity.
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    I was pretty sure I had heard the Giant tell that story before, possibly at a convention, but without proof I was just relying on my foggy memory. At least it's in writing now, so no one will ever have to have this exact argument again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPoD View Post
    I was pretty sure I had heard the Giant tell that story before, possibly at a convention, but without proof I was just relying on my foggy memory. At least it's in writing now, so no one will ever have to have this exact argument again.
    You may be entitled to expand your signature:

    "Spod has it right, again."



    And I forgot in my last post but "Woo-hoo. The Giant posts! And settles an argument!" As well as posting a great comic strip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame of Anor View Post
    Well, my country's adage says:

    "If you use thou when you mean thy, an innocent grammarian fairy will die."
    That's an awesome saying. Do you mind if I put it in my signature?

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    That's an awesome saying. Do you mind if I put it in my signature?
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